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Massive religious double standard 2011-05-28 18:41:04 Reply

They claim science and knowledge of men is all meaningless because men can't know God nor deduce any of his workings using empirical logic.

And yet, they know with complete certainty God exists because their parents told them so.


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-28 18:44:14 Reply

theres lots of double standards, hypocracy and stupidity in religion, but no one cares... world keeps on chuggin. some people need religion, the idea that youll be nothing but maggot lunch, when you die, and the idea that your existence is meaningless dosnt sit well with some people.

so some people need a religion to believe in, could make em go nuts otherwise

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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-28 19:05:27 Reply

Oh boy, a religion thread! Oh hey look, an obvious point is being made! Gee wiz!

How many times is this going to happen before kids learn

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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-28 19:08:27 Reply

At 5/28/11 07:05 PM, Astronesthes wrote: Oh boy, a religion thread! Oh hey look, an obvious point is being made! Gee wiz!

How many times is this going to happen before kids learn

What in the FUCK are you doing?


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-28 19:26:02 Reply

At 5/28/11 06:41 PM, Ninjafap wrote: And yet, they know with complete certainty God exists because their parents told them so.

You don't even need to look at what proof is or isn't there. Just ask them if they'd be the same religion they are if they had been raised differently. If they say they would have converted, show them the statistics.

Even if they are right, they're right for the wrong reasons.


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-28 20:49:30 Reply

At 5/28/11 06:41 PM, Ninjafap wrote: And yet, they know with complete certainty God exists because their parents told them so.

To be fair, I'm sure a lot of religious people that are at least older have just done it because it works for them. Besides, it's not just their parents that teach them that, it's the Church.


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-28 20:51:29 Reply

I've never met a theist who, when asked why do you believe God exists, replied "Because my parents told me so".


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-28 20:55:51 Reply

who claims this...is it muslims? ....i heard all muslim boys when there born have to be born of me so there fathers actuallly shove them up there assholes


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-28 20:56:07 Reply

"If you wind up with a boring, miserable life because you listened to your mom, your dad, your teacher, your priest or some guy on TV telling you how to do your shit, then YOU DESERVE IT" - Frank Zappa


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-28 21:01:48 Reply

At 5/28/11 08:51 PM, Dubbi wrote: I've never met a theist who, when asked why do you believe God exists, replied "Because my parents told me so".

But that's where it typically comes from. The confirmation bias in every single observation they make after the fact is a bonus.


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-28 21:46:30 Reply

At 5/28/11 06:41 PM, Ninjafap wrote: They claim science and knowledge of men is all meaningless because men can't know God nor deduce any of his workings using empirical logic.

Define they.


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-28 22:19:19 Reply

At 5/28/11 09:07 PM, thdrkside wrote: Yeah, and others only know because someone told them they would go to hell if they didnt. Thus they believe out of fear as opposed to love, and fear is the wrong reason.
Me being a Christian I want to tell all of the rest of the Christians, somehow, that preaching fire and brimstone only scares people away, and, in some cases, causes people to act against God.
If any Christians see this post I want them to know that preaching God's love is a better option, as people are more likely to believe that way. People will just think you are crazy if you preach fire and brimstone.

I would say that I relate most with the Scientific Christians of the world, my only difference being that I completely exclude certain parts of the scriptures from my beliefs, as they were written by mortal man.
God tells me, and dont ask how, certain things that I get my beliefs from. All you have to do to be Christian is to believe in God and that God had a son, Jesus, that is our savior. You dont have to burn everyone who believes different than you at the stake, or even judge other people, to be a Christian, or get into Heaven.

Amen, brother. I'm looking at all these guys who claim to be Christians, and then go say everyone who isn't like them will be sent to Hell. West Borough Baptist - perfect example of why some people think Christians are nuts. If self-proclaimed Christians actually lived by the Bible (just as it says, and not make some ridiculous interpretation), we'd be viewed a lot better than we are now. It's simple, recognize Jesus as the Lord and Savior, and apply his teachings to your life. I.E., being kind, giving to those in need. I don't see how someone can twist that into something like "God hates the USA" or "The end of the world is near" or other bull.


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-28 23:04:34 Reply

At 5/28/11 07:05 PM, Astronesthes wrote: Oh boy, a religion thread! Oh hey look, an obvious point is being made! Gee wiz!

How many times is this going to happen before kids learn

God has never been s33n th3ref0re = he not real!


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-28 23:24:25 Reply

At 5/28/11 11:09 PM, thdrkside wrote:
At 5/28/11 11:04 PM, FurryDemon wrote:
At 5/28/11 07:05 PM, Astronesthes wrote: Oh boy, a religion thread! Oh hey look, an obvious point is being made! Gee wiz!

How many times is this going to happen before kids learn
God has never been s33n th3ref0re = he not real!
How can you be so sure? People saw Jesus heal a blind man and bring someone back from the grave.
Also, ever read the book entitled "The Shack"?
This guy claims to have seen God three parts (the trinity). We cannot necessarily prove this untrue.

Get real. How long are you going to listen to what some "magic" book says? There are better books. Books with more intelligent observation and actual tried and tested true material that is proven facts.

The reason that almost nobody has ever seen God in physical image form is because he rarely intervenes with events on this Earth. He wants to see how we do on our own without his intervention.

Where did you ever get an idea like that? Did God actually come to you and tell you that? Because I know that didn't happen. So a man or woman of flesh and blood must have told you. Why would you even buy something so obviously made up?


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-28 23:32:27 Reply

Belief in god is just about as stupid as the belief that there is no god.
Agnostics are probably the most balanced people since they don't have any ideas about god set in stone.


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-29 00:31:07 Reply

You've noticed people talk something that is often generalized and poked fun at about religion in order to provoke a reaction and cause a discussion, one that's been done to death countless times.

How uninteresting.


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-29 00:53:21 Reply

At 5/28/11 11:32 PM, MC25 wrote: Agnostics are probably the most balanced people since they don't have any ideas about god set in stone.

You're an idiot. Atheism and agnosticism aren't mutually exclusive, in the sense that atheism refers to lack of belief in deities. Most atheists I talked to are just that - they don't believe we can know anything for fact, the existence or God or even the existence of the things you see, but it's safe to live on the assumption that a God or gods don't exist simply as a matter of probability or logic.

Let me illustrate this to you. You don't know for fact that if you pick up a pencil and throw it it will fall on the ground. There could be a sudden massive hurricane. You could be in a dream, for all you know. But nonetheless you believe it will fall simply because the event is beyond a certain threshold of probability in your mind that makes it almost completely certain.

Gnostic atheists are morons, but they're few. Gnostic theists, however, are very many.


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-29 00:54:28 Reply

Oh look, another thread about how Christianity sucks, and/or is untrue.
I'm so tired of this garbage, who cares?

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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-29 00:57:32 Reply

At 5/29/11 12:54 AM, Sevkat wrote: Oh look, another thread about how Christianity sucks, and/or is untrue.

Did you even see Christianity mentioned in the original post?

For the record, I was arguing with Muslims.


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-29 01:00:50 Reply

At 5/29/11 12:57 AM, Ninjafap wrote:
At 5/29/11 12:54 AM, Sevkat wrote: Oh look, another thread about how Christianity sucks, and/or is untrue.
Did you even see Christianity mentioned in the original post?

Christianity is the most wide spread religion to refer to their deity as God with a capital G

For the record, I was arguing with Muslims.

Then you should have used the correct naming for their deity


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Response to Massive religious double standard 2011-05-29 01:02:17 Reply

At 5/29/11 12:57 AM, Ninjafap wrote:
At 5/29/11 12:54 AM, Sevkat wrote: Oh look, another thread about how Christianity sucks, and/or is untrue.
Did you even see Christianity mentioned in the original post?

For the record, I was arguing with Muslims.

Oops, I meant to say 'Religion'.
And yeah, Muslims are stupid. So are Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists, Jehovas... You get the point.