Everybody Draw Muhammad Day 2011!!!

[Conal]

What? No thread for this?

Yet another Draw Muhammad Day. Last year there was a lot of website around the internet condoning. The most popular places to put them are on facebook (a lot of anti-DMD groups there).

Remember that the objective is to promote our freedom of speech & not be discouraged by threats of terrorism. A good place to put the images are in a location marked "Draw Muhammad Day" or something, so the only Muslims viewing the images chose to view them.

Also, on a side note; there is going to be a secular party on the 21st of May because thousands of Christians think the world will end.

& the 29th of May is my 18th. :D

How are you going to celebrate Draw Muhammad Day?

I sat this one out, but here's my picture from last year.

[Viktor]

Don't worry, I will join in.

[Cootie]

I find it charming actually. Muhammad has never been so adorable.

[Gobblemeister]

Instigating anger in a group of people isn't really a statement, that's just being a douchebag

[Strength]

People are still doing this? God damn, you're all so fucking stupid.

[Cootie]

At 5/20/11 05:40 PM, Strength wrote: People are still doing this? God damn, you're all so fucking stupid.

I don't see why people can't draw whatever they want, offended people be damned. I could draw him fucking a pig if I felt like doing such and there isn't a thing anyone can do about it.

[Drake]

I AM OFFENDED

Not really, carry on.

[sharingankakashi13]

At 5/20/11 05:43 PM, Tokecat wrote: It's called the First Ammendment. Fuck you, and fuck anyone who says that we aren't entitled to Freedom of Expression.

>Implying everyone lives in the US

Also, my contribution.

[Cootie]

At 5/20/11 05:40 PM, Gobblemeister wrote: Instigating anger in a group of people isn't really a statement, that's just being a douchebag

I don't see why makes them angry anyway. They think it is a sin to draw him, but THEY aren't the ones doing it. In their eyes it will send US to Hell because WE are doing it. Why would they give a shit if WE are sinning because even if we are it isn't going to effect THEIR judgement in the afterlife.

Like Christians who say "Omg that is a sin". You aren't doing it and it isn't going to effect you; so why give a crud?

[LucasJC]

You know, I don't think there is a rule against drawing Muhammed in the Qu' Ran, so why is it such a big deal?

[Warforger]

Actually no, the Koran says nothing about drawing Mohammed, in fact lots of artists drawed Mohammad throughout the Middle Ages, Christian and Muslim alike, the rule didn't exist until the 17th-19th centuries.

[DarkMatter]

At 5/20/11 06:38 PM, LucasJC wrote: You know, I don't think there is a rule against drawing Muhammed in the Qu' Ran, so why is it such a big deal?

Throughout the history of the Islamic religion, throughout the breaks in it's foundation (causing seperate sects of the religion to manifest) Islam has remained a religion free of Icons for the most part.

What is an Icon? An Icon is like a painting of Jesus, like the picture above, that's a perfect example of a Christian Icon painting.

Islam has remained united in it's lack of Icons throughout their history as a religion, thus Muhamad was not illustrated by Islamic artists into Islamic Icons. Islamic practice is more the emulation of the scripture, which is why you'll see ceramic pots with scripture enameled onto it, or scripture lining the walls of a mosque.

No one can stop you from drawing him really, but networks can shut you down like they did to Matt and Trey's 201st episode.

[Lumber-Jax12]

At 5/20/11 05:28 PM, Conal wrote: What? No thread for this?

Yet another Draw Muhammad Day. Last year there was a lot of website around the internet condoning. The most popular places to put them are on facebook (a lot of anti-DMD groups there).

Remember that the objective is to promote our freedom of speech & not be discouraged by threats of terrorism. A good place to put the images are in a location marked "Draw Muhammad Day" or something, so the only Muslims viewing the images chose to view them.

Also, on a side note; there is going to be a secular party on the 21st of May because thousands of Christians think the world will end.

& the 29th of May is my 18th. :D

How are you going to celebrate Draw Muhammad Day?

I sat this one out, but here's my picture from last year.

God this post is way too risky, I dont oppose the idea of drawing Muhammad, but I do not support it when it gets out of hand like this. Free speech is not being threatened no one is trying to do away with it, its like not saying "BOMB" or "Fire" at an airport. It brings up hurtful feelings and the more important fact is it can cause a panic. Same with this.

The bottom line is this, my personal opinion says do what ever the hell you want I don't care, but that would be ignorant. Don't do this or say it as a sign of "Fighting for Free Speech", because thats a false flag. Do do this as a sign of respect, Why do you think they want to kill us anyway?

Its certainly not because we respect their culture. This is just for the sake of drawing the damn man, do you think they even know what free speech, and it will get out of hand very quickly with drawings of him with a bomb and a dick in his mouth, by those fuckers over at /b/. The problem with this World is the heavy reliance on the self, just because it doesn't hurt YOU doesn't mean it won't hurt others.

Its like going to the fat girl and calling her a fat.

I do agree with this to an extant, however this can only lead to an abuse of the idea. Clearly you are one of those people. "Thousands of Christians"- Hardly maybe 10, but not every one (myself including) is rioting in the streets proclaiming the coming of Christ. This is what I mean, which leads me to think you may not really "care" about free-speech, but simply want to argue/fight religion.

Any man has every right to draw whatever they please , no one is contesting you on that, but this doesn't mean you can go all around the world and blatantly show offensive images to anyone.

Hey its free speech aint it?

[DarkMatter]

At 5/20/11 07:06 PM, Lumber-Jax12 wrote:


which leads me to think you may not really "care" about free-speech, but simply want to argue/fight religion.

Any man has every right to draw whatever they please

I sort of agree with you that the intentions aren't as pure as they could be, however it's alot better than burning a Quran.

Beyond that, lt em draw what they want. And btw, I find that drawing EXTREMELY offensive *grabs pick axe and heads to nearest church*

[Gobblemeister]

At 5/20/11 05:43 PM, Tokecat wrote:

At 5/20/11 05:40 PM, Gobblemeister wrote: Instigating anger in a group of people isn't really a statement, that's just being a douchebag

So is saying that one can't draw what one likes. How about you check out the constitution?

It's not about being able to do it or not, it's doing it because you know it's going to make some people angry. Instead of trying to be some kind of pseudo libertarian who feels the need to 'express their rights' in the most assholish of ways you could just leave well enough alone. Or are you condoning the Westboro Baptist Church's protests of soldier funerals and God Hates Fags too now?

[Painbringer]

My last year's contribution.

[Lumber-Jax12]

At 5/20/11 07:15 PM, DarkMatter wrote:

At 5/20/11 07:06 PM, Lumber-Jax12 wrote:


which leads me to think you may not really "care" about free-speech, but simply want to argue/fight religion.

Any man has every right to draw whatever they please

I sort of agree with you that the intentions aren't as pure as they could be, however it's alot better than burning a Quran.

Beyond that, lt em draw what they want. And btw, I find that drawing EXTREMELY offensive *grabs pick axe and heads to nearest church*

HAHAHA good luck my church is made of stone, but yeah I know what you mean, look personally its retarded, but like I said before I don't feel my saying its "retarded" is wrong, because lets face it there is a slim minority of Muslims on this site, therefore I am not causing major or massive harm to anyone.

But in regards to Matt and Trey, there is no justification in that. That was bullshit I agree 100% with them. Its one thing to do something like this, where it will not be restricted and as a result lead to immature shit like what our friend Mr. OP up there has drawn.

In their case, it was a simple showing of Muhammad WITH PURPOSE.

However at this point I care more as to why my actions are being traced by Verizon and how bullshit it is to give me a copy-right infringement for getting a torrent, makes me wonder what else they can trace.

[GiantDouche]

was this seriously already a year ago? damn

[Cootie]

I am saddened by the fact that nobody responded to my post about why they should give a darn.

[MrPercie]

At 5/20/11 05:28 PM, Conal wrote: A good place to put the images are in a location marked "Draw Muhammad Day" or something, so the only Muslims viewing the images chose to view them.

As much as I hate the pathetic attempts to fight terroism by drawing a religions prophet, at least you take some precautions in order to prevent innocent muslims being offended, so I at least say im happy about that.

But what did you do? no, tell me. What. Did. You. Do. You drew a picture of a prophet who is worshipped by millions of people who just so happen to hold certain religious rules where you cant draw this prophet. Terroism, is and always will be terroism, not islam. So when you go around saying your fighting the terroists by showing them you can draw picture of something they just so happen to also worship, they will get angry and will hurt people. Because they are terroists, they would do it anyway. But although I agree islam has been a breeding ground for religious fundalmentalist terroists (but al-queada/taliban play their role aswell), do you think the best idea to stop terroism is too offend the people of the religion that so happens to be the terroists religion? this will only cause more anger, hatred and drawing them too terroism.

The millions or billions of dollars spent, life lost in the fighting against these terroists, and you claim to be help fighting terroisim by enraging them in order to do so? then, would you kindly, shut up.

the other argument, if not a very pathetic one, freedom of speech......that joke. you all knew full and well you could draw muhammad (although I argue without actually knowing what muhammad looks like, no one EVER has drawn muhammad) right now, in MS paint I could draw a little sand ni**a wearing a towel and the decapitated head of jesus while standing on the heads of decapitated babys of every civilised and western nations populace. But even then, I am smarter or better ( I dont know a correct term) than you for knowing that muslims will be offended by this. I have proven I can draw muhammad TOO MYSELF as thats the only person who needs to know you can do something, but yet, I laugh as you post these discriminating and insulting images across the internet in order to get the public to notice and the muslims angry. Its bad enough people are racist these days but you think going up too another race and insulting them for it just for the reason of freedom of speech and expressing your feelings? But what were left with is a person who is going to hate you and possibly your race.

some UN workers who were helping the people and protecting them were killed in the middle east, there was a riot going on about the drawing of muhammad and some of them killed the workers.

some people say it was terroists, I think it was this ignorance we call draw muhammad day.

[Cootie]

At 5/20/11 07:38 PM, MrPercie wrote: stuff

But, who do we have to CARE if they get offended or not? Getting offended is a choice and just because they choose to get offended rather than blow it off on a matter so trivial as this is dumb. Why should they care if some teenage punk draws a picture of their prophet? Why would it have any effect what so ever on them? Even when I was a Christian I didn't so much as bat and eye when someone straight up blasphemed.

"ZOMG WHAT IF THEY GET OFFENDED?"... oh well, I guess then they could just be offended.

[Gobblemeister]

At 5/20/11 07:32 PM, Tokecat wrote:

At 5/20/11 07:18 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:

At 5/20/11 05:43 PM, Tokecat wrote:

At 5/20/11 05:40 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:

The next time you have one of your kids knifed because they voice anti-Islamic or anti-Christian views, I am sure you will find this kind of Worldwide Protest as meaningless as you do now.

This isn't a protest, it's a perpetuation of a double standard where non religious people complain about how religious people infringe upon them and thereby respond by doing the exact same thing. I'm glad you find double standards to be the kind of thing you want to teach your kids. He may grow up being taught to disrespect and desecrate the laws of a religion simply for the satisfaction of being able to but at least your kid won't be afraid to do it.

Not to mention how you dismiss Westboro as 'simply a hate group to be ignored' when that is exactly what this whole 'Draw Muhammad' thing is. It's really pathetic that you call this a protest when it's just a bunch of cowards inciting more and more tension. You act like these terrorist acts are rooted entirely in Islam when it is just as much about the perception of ignorance in the West, another standard you people are perpetuating.

'Let's offend millions because we can herp derp Amercia rulez, constitution, rights'

Good show guys, good show

[lawlmaster]

Does anyone remember the AntiChrist super store action-figures of all the Biblical Icons?

[MrPercie]

At 5/20/11 07:46 PM, Cootie wrote:
But, who do we have to CARE if they get offended or not?

because thats what nice a good people do, its what they should do.

:Getting offended is a choice

you dumb cunt. I dont think you choose for that too happen.

and just because they choose to get offended rather than blow it off on a matter so trivial as this is dumb. Why should they care if some teenage punk draws a picture of their prophet? Why would it have any effect what so ever on them? Even when I was a Christian I didn't so much as bat and eye when someone straight up blasphemed.

A christian in a civilised country. Muslims in civilised countrys are less into terroism and not as fundalmentalist. I mean turkey for instance, islam major religion their but their a bit more advanced as they actually got some economy going on so the people can do more with their lives. Although I dont have any real evidence, all I know is from iraq/iran to pakistan its just pointless deserts filled with poor people. when their religion dominates their lives then their sure as hell going to get mad at anyone who does something minor/trivial.

if all you did was worship christianity and everything else in your life was pointless, then someone comes along and shits over it, you would defend your religion as its your life.

"ZOMG WHAT IF THEY GET OFFENDED?"... oh well, I guess then they could just be offended.

They can be very offended, infact they could be soooo offended that they take up guns or use explosives and start killing innocent people or our soldiers (I cant prove thats always the case but doesnt mean its impossible), and if this can be so easily avoided by not drawing a picture, by all means we shouldnt do it.

[MrPercie]

Not like I dont hate every person who here draws a picture.

in fact I prefer it seen as most people on this site are smelly annoying cunting children so they all are gunna get offended anyway.

just places like facebook which has a bit higher social status where people hang out, it isnt nice too see what looks like a islam hate group getting a few billion hits.

[Cootie]

At 5/20/11 08:16 PM, MrPercie wrote:
They can be very offended, infact they could be soooo offended that they take up guns or use explosives and start killing innocent people or our soldiers (I cant prove thats always the case but doesnt mean its impossible), and if this can be so easily avoided by not drawing a picture, by all means we shouldnt do it.

If we have to fear our lives for drawing a mere picture then something has to change in this world. And, it isn't the people drawing the picture.

[Mr-Chainsaw]

At 5/20/11 08:16 PM, MrPercie wrote: They can be very offended, infact they could be soooo offended that they take up guns or use explosives and start killing innocent people or our soldiers (I cant prove thats always the case but doesnt mean its impossible), and if this can be so easily avoided by not drawing a picture, by all means we shouldnt do it.

If Harry Potter fans get offended by Harry Potter fan art, we should stop drawing Harry Potter fan art.

[Gobblemeister]

At 5/20/11 08:21 PM, Cootie wrote:

At 5/20/11 08:16 PM, MrPercie wrote:

If we have to fear our lives for drawing a mere picture then something has to change in this world. And, it isn't the people drawing the picture.

Because the best way to quell anger is to keep prodding it until they just stop or something I guess.

[MrPercie]

At 5/20/11 08:21 PM, Cootie wrote: If we have to fear our lives for drawing a mere picture then something has to change in this world. And, it isn't the people drawing the picture.

things are changing. I do know a famous quote from empire total war "if freedom is to be given up for little and limited protection, then that man doesnt deserve freedom or protection" (something along those lines) but thats not what im getting at.

I dont think one person drawing muhammad and posting it on the internet will have too much affect and even if it did, not on his life unless the muslim terroists have IP tracker on images somehow. But when people start organising groups for this, it can be seen as an attack on islam. Espcially when most of these images are posted by anti religion kids who just hate religions because "they start war and kill people and its pointless" and cum over everything over their amazement that they can offend rag heads.

I want the people of islam too change so theres less fundalmentalists but I dont think that can be achieved this way by drawing muhammad. Its not like one day after so much rage in the islamic community that the people will say "were sorry guys, we have been fools, we just get a little angry and start killing now and again" I very much doubt that, I just hope by preventing things like draw muhammad day, at least in a mordern/advanced islamic communtiy muslims wouldnt feel threatend and they can calm things down a bit.

And when that day comes THEN you can DRAW muhammad and POST it in a PUBLIC area for EVERYONE too see and the only people who will be killing/rioting are the nutters who happen to be islamic.

[Cootie]

At 5/20/11 08:31 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:
Because the best way to quell anger is to keep prodding it until they just stop or something I guess.

No, a far better way would to just stop having a basic human right because a couple cunts with just enough brains to know how to operate a firearm don't know how to handle people saying things they don't like. We should stop doing it out of fear of another human beings reaction.

Oh wait, that is a horrible idea.