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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 16th, 2011 @ 02:22 PM Reply

At 11/13/11 02:40 PM, BenKNG wrote: Hell, can we all agree its better than black ops at least?

I was able to play black ops for more than three minutes without getting bored of it. This game is fucking terrible, the only thing it has going for it is Survival/Spec ops. It's just recycled shit.

Coming from a COD fan since the first game.

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 16th, 2011 @ 03:06 PM Reply

At 11/15/11 04:20 PM, simon wrote: This is me atm.

Oh God. I'm closing to prestiging soon as well even though I haven't put 24 hours into the game yet.

At 11/16/11 12:53 AM, WeHaveFreshCookies wrote: Does anybody else think the Type 95 is ridiculously overpowered? They need to nerf that thing. Seriously. A two hit kill?

I haven't really noticed much with it, feels just the same as the Famas from Modern Warfare 2. The only gun I've been touching a lot is the PP90M1, which I've managed to gain the Gold Camo for it.

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 16th, 2011 @ 03:46 PM Reply

The FMG9 Akimbo is a bit overpowered too.

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 16th, 2011 @ 03:52 PM Reply

At 11/16/11 03:46 PM, Makeshift wrote: The FMG9 Akimbo is a bit overpowered too.

Lol, it's in my kill everyone class.

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 16th, 2011 @ 05:51 PM Reply

I've got gold on the Scar, ACR, and Barrett. Working on the M-14 now. Am I cool yet?

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 21st, 2011 @ 11:04 PM Reply

I love how you can hear people you kill. After killing this one guy he always said, "yeeeeah" like he was really pissed. Then I kill his friend and his friend goes, "AAAAAAAAAAH YOU COOOOOCK!"

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 21st, 2011 @ 11:24 PM Reply

Also, I'm finally starting to get really good. Playing TDM and I'm getting highest K/D constantly. I think it's because I started using Specialist. I've got a class with the MP5 at lvl 28, Sleight of Hand, Hardline, Steady Aim. Then my Specialist perks are Quickdraw, Assassin, and Scavenger. It's working well so far.

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 22nd, 2011 @ 02:00 AM Reply

At 11/22/11 01:05 AM, Travis wrote:
At 11/20/11 04:30 PM, RightWingGamer wrote:
That'd be impressive coming from infinity ward after the month it took to fix the javelin glitch in MW2.

I for one thought the Javelin glitch was hilarious

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 23rd, 2011 @ 11:44 PM Reply

A dog is still a dog. Even if I dress him in funny clothes and take him to different parks and feed him different food.

This is a correct metaphor for COD. So yes. MW3 could be accurately described as an expansion pack.

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 24th, 2011 @ 12:26 AM Reply

goty of the year for sure!

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 24th, 2011 @ 01:36 AM Reply

At 11/24/11 12:26 AM, TheLameChildren wrote: goty of the year for sure!

LMAO


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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 24th, 2011 @ 02:21 PM Reply

So can anyone tell me if MW3 is really worth it, it would cost me over 60EU, no idea how much it would be on $.
From what I've heard it's failing the online with lag shooting and has some respawning issues.
Anyone can tell me the negative and positive things about the game without being a total fanboy?


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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 24th, 2011 @ 02:24 PM Reply

At 11/24/11 02:21 PM, Gremlin wrote: So can anyone tell me if MW3 is really worth it, it would cost me over 60EU, no idea how much it would be on $.

Fun game, not worth 60EU by a longshot though. Would've been better starting and 40.

From what I've heard it's failing the online with lag shooting and has some respawning issues.

Hasn't been a problem for me

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 24th, 2011 @ 03:19 PM Reply

Uhm...

Modern Warfare 3 announced!

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 24th, 2011 @ 09:04 PM Reply

Get a juggernaut. About to try it for the first time. Lands on a flat piece of ground and does 1000 spins into me and a die. I spawn across the map from it and someone else takes it.

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 24th, 2011 @ 11:11 PM Reply

At 11/23/11 07:45 PM, RightWingGamer wrote:
First off, the average price for DLC multiplayer maps nowadays is $3 per map. MW3 includes 16 maps, so that's already $48 of value right there.

Not every game is a CoD game, though. $3 per map for a CoD game is definitely going to be seen as worth more or less than say $3 per map for a game like Gears of War.

$48 of OBJECTIVE value in terms of money. To a player it, might SUBJECTIVELY be worth $100 or $5, and this is the crux of the issue. This is why we have pirates, or hell, thieves in general. A creator can bitch and moan about all the time he spent on a game, doesn't change what the consumer thinks it should be worth. $60 for a game that is very similar to it's predecessor is not a "fair" price.

Then again, we can argue into infinity about what a "fair" price for something is.

Now, the campaign is 5 hours long. Most campaign-only games (EG Mass Effect) have campaigns 20 hours long and sell for $60. That's $3 an hour, so a 5-hour campaign has $15 of value, meaning we already have $63 of content for a $60 game.

Games with long campaigns, especially RPGs, are very, very different from the campaign of a CoD game and are therefore worth different amounts.

Let's move on to Spec-ops. We have 16 brand-new missions in the mission mode, but since you're likely only going to play them once or twice, let's give them a lower value of $1 per mission. That's $16 of value, which is still nothing to scoff at.
Finally, let's factor in Survival, which is a brand-new game mode. It is not uncommon for new game modes to sell for $10 or more on the DLC market, so let's say it's worth $10 (even though IMO it's worth a lot more).

I can agree with this, since it's something entirely new.

Now, let's add up the numbers for a purely objective rating of the game's value:

Maps - $48
Campaign - $15
Spec-ops - $16
Survival - $10 (or more)
Total = $89 value

But this is all monetary value, and monetary value doesn't, or shouldn't, substitute for actual subjective enjoyment of the game.

I don't know about you, but I'd say that even without all the changes they made, it's still well worth $60 if you're a fan of the series.

Eventually that's the great equalizer for all series and franchises regardless if the games actually change. You can always depend on the loyal fan, right? And since such fans will gladly pay more to compensate for those who won't buy it, you'd be crazy not to appeal to them.

Such fans are loyal to a fault.

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 25th, 2011 @ 01:54 AM Reply

At 11/24/11 03:08 PM, RightWingGamer wrote: 15. A fair bit higher than average, but the number of maps you get for the price is a slightly better deal than most competing games.

I'm sorry, but I laugh at this statement


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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 25th, 2011 @ 08:26 AM Reply

Got the game pre-owned, beat single player, tried out that new survival mode, and returned it (money back).
Glad the game ended on a good note.

Back to TF 2 and Halo.


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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 25th, 2011 @ 02:53 PM Reply

At 11/25/11 02:33 AM, logic wrote:
At 11/23/11 11:44 PM, MercatorMapV2 wrote:
by that logic every pokemon game is an expansion pack, or every game that basically chooses not to change it's mechanics. Really, every new pokemon game is just the same thing with new sprites?

Each Pokemon game was different from the last one more than each CoD game was different from the last CoD game. The amount of variation between each installment of Pokemon is enough to warrant not calling them expansion packs.

you guys are just picking on COD because it's the cool thing to do.

This is not an argument against the valid points some people raise against CoD. Saying "it's the cool thing to do" does nothing.

Call the fans what you like, idiots, kids, suckers. Point is, it's got a huge fanbase, it's obviously doing SOMETHING right.

Yeah, it's doing something right to make money, not necessarily helping the franchise or the industry.

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 27th, 2011 @ 07:23 PM Reply

At 11/27/11 07:11 PM, logic wrote: variation? Eight gyms, new pokemon, new sprites, new story. That's it.

The gameplay and mechanics have changed quite a bit actually, most of the time they just add new things but if you play competitively the special/physical split of Gen 4 was one of the biggest changes Pokemon has ever undergone.

It's funny how when a game like Uncharted or Mario does adds new things it's 'vastly improving on a classic formula' but when Pokemon does it no one cares and it's just 'same old same old nothing changed'

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 27th, 2011 @ 11:43 PM Reply

Another shitty thread that shouldn't be allowed to exist :)

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 28th, 2011 @ 01:13 AM Reply

At 11/27/11 11:43 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Another shitty thread that shouldn't be allowed to exist :)

Hey, I think I played against you in a game of Black Ops once on the PS3, the PSN name was HeavenDuffNG or NGHeavenDuff, can't remember. I remember you/this person impersonating you cussing me out in the lobby for just going around and knifing/tomahawking people, albeit not so well. Good times.


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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Nov. 28th, 2011 @ 03:39 AM Reply

At 11/28/11 01:13 AM, Chumbawamba wrote:
At 11/27/11 11:43 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Another shitty thread that shouldn't be allowed to exist :)
Hey, I think I played against you in a game of Black Ops once on the PS3, the PSN name was HeavenDuffNG or NGHeavenDuff, can't remember. I remember you/this person impersonating you cussing me out in the lobby for just going around and knifing/tomahawking people, albeit not so well. Good times.

I used to play Black Ops a lot, yes. PSN is HeavenDuff but I use the NG as a Clan Tag. If you were using knife and tomahawk only, it might have bothered me, yes :P I think that kind of playing just isn't interresting. It's a FPS game after all and it bothers me to see people running around with one hit kill weapons... which are not even guns... defying the purpose of a first person SHOOTER game...

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 05:18 PM Reply

The Striker, FMG9s, and Type 95 are the reasons I won't play this game very long. They need to do something with those.

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 05:50 PM Reply

At 12/3/11 05:18 PM, Makeshift wrote: The Striker, FMG9s, and Type 95 are the reasons I won't play this game very long. They need to do something with those.

I don't think they're that big of a deal

Rather than nerf those guns i'd rather see the other shotguns get a buff.

Sick of having to 2 shot with a Model at point blank.

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 06:10 PM Reply

In other news.. At rank 56 (no prestige) I have a .70 K/D and a 19.76% accuracy.


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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Dec. 4th, 2011 @ 06:55 AM Reply

At 12/3/11 06:10 PM, ChimeraNoise wrote: In other news.. At rank 56 (no prestige) I have a .70 K/D and a 19.76% accuracy.

The only thing good about that is the accuracy


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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Dec. 17th, 2011 @ 08:24 AM Reply

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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Dec. 17th, 2011 @ 04:49 PM Reply

At 12/3/11 05:50 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:
At 12/3/11 05:18 PM, Makeshift wrote: The Striker, FMG9s, and Type 95 are the reasons I won't play this game very long. They need to do something with those.
I don't think they're that big of a deal

Rather than nerf those guns i'd rather see the other shotguns get a buff.

Sick of having to 2 shot with a Model at point blank.

Shotguns are supposed to be powerfull at close range, especially since COD has bad habit to make them very useless in medium/long ranges.

Type95 and FMG9 akimbo are clearly too powerfull, sure one guy using them isn't big deal but when there are more of them in same team it can be irritating to die before you get the change to shoot


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Response to Modern Warfare 3 announced! Dec. 17th, 2011 @ 09:06 PM Reply

At 12/3/11 05:50 PM, Gobblemeister wrote: Sick of having to 2 shot with a Model at point blank.

Damn right that's annoying. I had patience and managed to level up the 1887 to 23 or whatever the level is when the range proficiency is unlocked. Still pretty rough to use, and I didn't feel like waiting around to 28 for the damage proficiency.


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