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At 4/30/12 07:41 PM, AniMetal wrote: What the fuck? Shadow thing is born, and now Renly's dead? What? Please tell me this is done much smoother and less... randomly than it is in the show. :/

In the book Renly's death is sudden and unexplained, you don't see the shadow born first. You later see another shadow born that kills one of Renly's bannermen who is still holding out in Storm's End, confirming that Melisandre was the source of Renly's killer.

The plot finally seems to be heating up Beyond the Wall, let's hope we get some legitimate action now. Personally, I couldn't give a damn about the "white walkers" but I am excited to see Mance Rayder's army of wildlings, as well as maybe the giants or "pale spiders large as hounds" - both of which have only been hinted at earlier on.

Don't get too excited, it doesn't really kick off until the start of A Storm of Swords. Mance hasn't even been cast yet. Closest we get this season is Rattleshirt, a lower down Wildling leader.

Honestly, I really am not following the Dany plot that much. It's just so boring, all these new characters from Qarth are so uninteresting and everyone knows this plot isn't going anywhere and that Dany does actually do anything until the fifth book.

Dany does even less in A Dance With Dragons than in A Clash of Kings. Her chapters are only interesting for the characters around her, most of whom should be showing up towards the end of this season. Also, look forward to the House of the Undying that Pyat Pree invited her too this week, it's one of the best parts of the book.

That little insight into Theon was a bit unnecessary. I had assumed, by this point, that he'd already have been at sea. But it was still cool to see him be the little pussy bitch that he is. haha

I liked Dagmer Cleftjaw not actually having a fucking cleftjaw. Also, besieging Torren's Square with one boat is pretty impressive, he's got 8 in the book.

I'm REALLY liking the Arya plot. I think it's a bit unrealistic that she happened to be discovered by Tywin, but if you role with it I think it's cool and it's a nice insight into Tywin - i'm really wondering who the two people she'll wish to kill are. Also, i'm really wondering what Gendry's role is now - at first I assumed he was pretty much there to protect Arya, but now i'm not so sure.

Arya choosing The Tickler as her first kill makes her look like a retard. In the book it's another of The Mountain's soldiers who has been cut from the show, who has previously beaten her, so she's angry and not thinking clearly. Picking The Tickler over Tywin or Joffrey just makes her look like she's not thinking about it properly.

It also means we don't get the INCREDIBLE scene from A Storm of Swords where she kills The Tickler herself, wildly stabbing him while screaming the same questions he repeatedly asked of his torture victims.

Also, i'm really fucking getting sick of Bran Stark. WE GET IT, YOU'RE HAVING DREAMS. WE DON'T CARE. I feel like he's been nothing but a total waste of screentime and space ever since he woke up from his coma.

It's actually Jojen Reed, son of Howland Reed, one of Ned's oldest friends and the only man still alive who knows what really happened at The Tower of Joy, who has the prophetic dreams in the book. He's been cut and the dreams given to Bran instead. Bran only has the dreams about being a wolf, not the ones about the sea coming to Winterfell.

On the topic of Starks, is it just me or does this show not give anywhere nearly enough justice to Robb Stark? Both first season and second.

Robb isn't actually a point of view character in the books, so you see even less of him. Things that we've seen this season like the battle at Oxcross we only hear about in the books, generally in Catelyn chapters. She's been moved into his camp to give him more screen time, since most of her story is actually set in Riverrun, which is also where Jaime is prisoner, which has been cut entirely, along with her father Hoster, brother Edmure and The Blackfish, her uncle.

Anyway, as for the real kicker of the episode, Renly's dead? What the actual fuck? I still can't get over this. Especially considering he was the only one of the "five kings" i really supported anyway. It's not even five kings now, now it's four. Fuck.

Technically there were never five kings. Balon doesn't declare himself King until after Renly is dead. Mance and Dany don't count.

Also, I still can't appreciate any of the characters on the Stannis front - Stannis, Mel and Davos are all just so boring and stale.

Davos is such a bro, one of my favourite characters. They're not doing him any justice in the show. I really like Stannis too, but more so in the later books.

Cool thing with Tyrion and the "wildfire" plot. I just wish there had been some mention of this chemical, even if it was only mentioned one or twice in dialogue, in earlier episodes. It was interesting to see Bronn actually talk for a change too. Also, I really can't stand Lancel's voice but maybe that's just me.

Wildfire basically comes out of nowhere in the books too. The whole thing about it being Cersei's idea isn't included, Tyrion decides to do it himself. Not sure why they had the bit about her ordering it really, maybe just to let Tyrion get another one over on her.

What do you guys think about the latest episode?

Not hugely impressed, if I'm honest. I strongly dislike having The Ticker be Arya's first death, and don't feel they handled Renly's death very well either. They cut out Loras Tyrell going mad with grief over Renly's death and cutting two of the Rainbow Guard down, which would have been nice to see if only to reinforce the fact that he's supposed to be a great warrior, something we've only heard about, never seen.

I am enjoying Arya and Tywin's interaction, though. It's Roose Bolton she serves as cupbearer for originally, and he doesn't have the same sort of relationship with her Tywin is developing.

Something I'm not clear on, has Jon actually left the Fist with Qhorin now? The trailer for next week has Ygritte in it, which means it has him ranging at some point during the episode, but he still needs to find the obsidian daggers and arrow heads, or Sam's going to be in a bit of trouble come the start of season 3.

At 4/30/12 07:41 PM, AniMetal wrote: The plot finally seems to be heating up Beyond the Wall, let's hope we get some legitimate action now. Personally, I couldn't give a damn about the "white walkers" but I am excited to see Mance Rayder's army of wildlings, as well as maybe the giants or "pale spiders large as hounds" - both of which have only been hinted at earlier on.

neato i'm guessing we meet ygritte next episode too, which is cool since she's pretty funny in a non direct way YOU KNOW NOTHING JON SNOW. king beyond the wall and his army make for interesting characters, you won't be let down.

Honestly, I really am not following the Dany plot that much. It's just so boring, all these new characters from Qarth are so uninteresting and everyone knows this plot isn't going anywhere and that Dany does actually do anything until the fifth book.

dany stopped being interesting when the dragons were born.

I'm REALLY liking the Arya plot. I think it's a bit unrealistic that she happened to be discovered by Tywin, but if you role with it I think it's cool and it's a nice insight into Tywin - i'm really wondering who the two people she'll wish to kill are. Also, i'm really wondering what Gendry's role is now - at first I assumed he was pretty much there to protect Arya, but now i'm not so sure.

arya's plot is probably the most interesting of all, as she meets a lot of different characters and since they don't know who she is you either see two sides to them or just one. i like how tywin is around her, nothing like he is around tyrion or his kids, or his family for that matter, and it makes him really likeable. it's like this with other characters, too. personally i liked gendry when he didn't know who she was. keep in mind tywin doesn't know who she is, just that she's a foreigner. the show isn't emphasizing how important harrenhal is, so for tywin to suddenly show up does seem pretty unrealistic in the show.

Also, i'm really fucking getting sick of Bran Stark. WE GET IT, YOU'RE HAVING DREAMS. WE DON'T CARE. I feel like he's been nothing but a total waste of screentime and space ever since he woke up from his coma.

me and ptero use bran's screen time to sleep. especially boring since there's no fucking reeds. when you meet the reeds in the books, tell them i said hi?

On the topic of Starks, is it just me or does this show not give anywhere nearly enough justice to Robb Stark? Both first season and second.

he's pretty one dimensional and doesn't have any chapters. he really has no role or other side to being a "king" and wanting vengeance. anything regarding robb stark is either that he's winning battles or a spoiler. be blessed, he'd be as boring as bran.

Anyway, as for the real kicker of the episode, Renly's dead? What the actual fuck? I still can't get over this. Especially considering he was the only one of the "five kings" i really supported anyway. It's not even five kings now, now it's four. Fuck.

renly was a cutie :3

Also, I still can't appreciate any of the characters on the Stannis front - Stannis, Mel and Davos are all just so boring and stale.

davos especially.

What do you guys think about the latest episode?

i really liked it. noting the lack of joffrey abuse on sansa, the lack of cursing and nudity, and my favorite scene was the arya - tywin dialogue, followed by the usual cersei and tyrion dialogue. i like when cersei and tyrion talk because it's really just never ending quips, threats and secrets.

Spoilers:

The best parts from the books are obviously Jon Snow's description of Ygritte's fiery red bush and Sansa's description of Tyrion's purple headed cock.

Unfortunately, I'm sure those scenes are still quite a while now before they will happen. :c

I don't think having The Tickler killed was necessarily a "retarded" move on Arya's part.

I think she wanted to she wanted to test out whether or not that-man-whose-name-I-can't-spell was really up to the task or not, and she probably also wanted revenge for seeing her friends getting tortured in front of her.

Makes sense to me, even if she probably should've saved the kill for a bigger fish.

At 4/30/12 08:57 PM, Ryan wrote: Spoilers:

The best parts from the books are obviously Jon Snow's description of Ygritte's fiery red bush and Sansa's description of Tyrion's purple headed cock.

Unfortunately, I'm sure those scenes are still quite a while now before they will happen. :c

Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water.

- George R. R. Martin

Season 3 casting has started. They're looking for Shireen Bartheon and Daario Naharis so far.

I fucking hate Daario.

I hope we get to see more of Aarya and Jon with this next episode, especially because we haven't been seeing enough of Jon all season. I'd rather we take a break from Dany and Bran for a bit because, like most people are saying, they haven't been very interesting lately. I'm surprised they've only shown Rickon, like, 3 times since the show started considering even though he's little, he's still a Stark and they're kind of a big deal with the war and all. If he doesn't have a more important role later then they might have just cut him from the show.

Is there any more context to how the guy who Aarya saved and who killed the Tickler actually became a guard in the book than in the show? Because I think it's kind of weird that he's been there for, like, 5 minutes and has already become a guard in what I assume is a fairly high-security place, with all the prisoners.

At 5/4/12 03:28 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote: I hope we get to see more of Aarya and Jon with this next episode, especially because we haven't been seeing enough of Jon all season. I'd rather we take a break from Dany and Bran for a bit because, like most people are saying, they haven't been very interesting lately. I'm surprised they've only shown Rickon, like, 3 times since the show started considering even though he's little, he's still a Stark and they're kind of a big deal with the war and all. If he doesn't have a more important role later then they might have just cut him from the show.

Next episode looks to be mostly Theon and Jon, if the trailer is anything to go by.

Unfortunately we might not get much more Arya until episode 10. It's called "Valar Morghulis", which is a phrase associated with Arya and Jaqen, and there's not a whole lot more for her to do until the point where it's introduced. They could give her more to do, I guess, but other than her second death and then Weasel soup, she's basically done.

Is there any more context to how the guy who Aarya saved and who killed the Tickler actually became a guard in the book than in the show? Because I think it's kind of weird that he's been there for, like, 5 minutes and has already become a guard in what I assume is a fairly high-security place, with all the prisoners.

Rorge, Biter and Jaqen join Amory Lorch's men right after the attack on the holdfast, and in the book there's more time between that and Harrenhal. He's not a guard, he's just a soldier. Harrenhal isn't a prison, they just happen to be keeping prisoners there too.

Tywin has been recruiting mercenaries for a while at this point, so hiring one more isn't out of the ordinary.

At 5/4/12 03:49 PM, TheMaster wrote:

Unfortunately we might not get much more Arya until episode 10. It's called "Valar Morghulis", which is a phrase associated with Arya and Jaqen, and there's not a whole lot more for her to do until the point where it's introduced. They could give her more to do, I guess, but other than her second death and then Weasel soup, she's basically done.

Well at least we get to see Jon and Theon, they haven't actually done anything for a few episodes except make plans so it's about time.

Rorge, Biter and Jaqen join Amory Lorch's men right after the attack on the holdfast, and in the book there's more time between that and Harrenhal. He's not a guard, he's just a soldier. Harrenhal isn't a prison, they just happen to be keeping prisoners there too.

Tywin has been recruiting mercenaries for a while at this point, so hiring one more isn't out of the ordinary.

Alright, that clears things up. When Aarya and the fat kid got to Harrenhal and talked about how it smelled like dead people before being put in a crowded cage thing while people were periodically tortured, I was thinking it was like a concentration camp kind of thing for prisoners. I thought it was weird that Tywin had been meeting with other people there when I thought it was just a place to interrogate and execute people.

At 5/4/12 04:19 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote: Alright, that clears things up. When Aarya and the fat kid got to Harrenhal and talked about how it smelled like dead people before being put in a crowded cage thing while people were periodically tortured, I was thinking it was like a concentration camp kind of thing for prisoners. I thought it was weird that Tywin had been meeting with other people there when I thought it was just a place to interrogate and execute people.

Harrenhal is Tywin's base of operations in the Riverlands. He's taking shelter there while he waits for reinforcements before attacking Robb. They didn't make it entirely clear in the show, but those soldiers Robb slaughtered a few episodes ago where the reinforcements Ser Stafford Lannister was training.

The battle takes place well into Lannister territory. They thought they were secure because the only way to get into the Westerlands is defended by the Golden Tooth, and Stafford had assumed Robb would be unable to take the castle, but Grey Wind discovers a mountain trail that allows Robb to bypass the castle and sneak his army behind enemy lines, allowing him to surprise the reinforcements and destroy them before they can go to Tywin.

They haven't done a very good job of explaining how the war is going, really. They need to add Robb's army to the opening titles, so you have some idea where all these encounters take place. There's fighting in the Riverlands that you would assume is Robb's men fighting Tywin's, but Robb's army is with him in the west raiding behind Lannister lines, and it's actually Tully men led by Edmure Tully, Catelyn's brother who has not yet appeared in the show, who are doing the fighting.

I've been pretty MIA here but still watching the show every week.I kinda skip around the posts here cause there seems to be a lot of discussion of the books, of which I have not read.

My thoughts on Season 2 Episode 6: The riot in Kings Landing was sick, it gets more and more rewarding every time Tyrion gives Joffry a slap. I hope Arya and Tywin become BFFs, Theon is such a scummy piece of shit, and omg Dany's dragons.

At 5/6/12 11:42 PM, AlphaCentauri wrote: Theon is such a scummy piece of shit

Killing Rodrick was too far. Think it's going to be hard to sympathise with him now. Something has gone seriously wrong when I'm going to be rooting for Ramsay Bolton.

I was pretty unsympathetic to Sansa for a while, but that almost-rape scene really humanized her for me. I do love how evil they build Geoffrey up to be, because that cow turd and Tyrion slapping him were so excessively satisfying. Also, I'm interested in what will happen to Daneyers now that her dragons are gone and she has nothin'.

At 5/7/12 09:53 AM, TheMaster wrote:

At 5/6/12 11:42 PM, AlphaCentauri wrote: Theon is such a scummy piece of shit

Killing Rodrick was too far. Think it's going to be hard to sympathise with him now. Something has gone seriously wrong when I'm going to be rooting for Ramsay Bolton.

I'm just hoping that Robb comes in and brings him back to the Starks. I don't really want to see him die, Theon is just a confused kid trying to figure out how to consolidate his Father's hatred with his tight bonds to the Starks.

At 5/7/12 10:26 AM, camobch0 wrote: I'm just hoping that Robb comes in and brings him back to the Starks. I don't really want to see him die, Theon is just a confused kid trying to figure out how to consolidate his Father's hatred with his tight bonds to the Starks.

That's how Theon SHOULD be portrayed, but it's not how they've done it in the show. In the books he's never forced into killing people he's close to, like Ser Rodrik, so you never know if he'd actually be able to bring himself to do it. Most of the evil shit that happens while he's at Winterfell is Reek/Ramsay Bolton's fault, and he's been cut, so a lot of that now falls to Theon instead.

At least they finally confirmed Ramsay. Rather than starting in Winterfell, going to the Dreadfort, and coming back with his men, he's just going to be coming straight from the Dreadfort. I'd have preferred to have him there from the beginning, Theon and Ramsay is one of the best relationships in the series, but at least he's still there.

finally a bran scene that isn't painfully boring

At 5/7/12 06:44 PM, Bees wrote: finally a bran scene that isn't painfully boring

Only because it's actually a Theon scene.

At 5/7/12 06:55 PM, TheMaster wrote:

At 5/7/12 06:44 PM, Bees wrote: finally a bran scene that isn't painfully boring

Only because it's actually a Theon scene.

also, i read the second book around this time last year, so i don't remember much, but did arya and tywin talk as much as they are talking now? i like their scenes, it really gives that "if i were any other person, we would be friends" mutual tone to it.

At 5/7/12 09:53 AM, TheMaster wrote:

At 5/6/12 11:42 PM, AlphaCentauri wrote: Theon is such a scummy piece of shit

Killing Rodrick was too far. Think it's going to be hard to sympathise with him now.

Did Rodrick not die in the books? Or die differently?

Something has gone seriously wrong when I'm going to be rooting for Ramsay Bolton.

Who?

Also, I second the first not boring Bran scene comment.

I really enjoyed the riot scene as well, I just wish it lasted longer and so we could've seen more destruction from it. Unless it was only a minor thing in the book too, and wasn't a huge full scale thing. Also, am I wrong in assuming that Sansa was actually gangraped in the book? Knowing GRRM's humor and graphic nature, this wouldn't surprise me.

Also, I loved Tyrion owning Joffrey. "YOU HAVE A LOT TO OWE HIM, YOU KNOW"

And, i'm confused, so Tyrion actually wanted to ship off the princess to Dorne? I thought... that he was just telling stories to fish out Cersei's spy among the council and that he wasn't planning to send her off at all? I'm so confused, someone explain this for me?

I really liked the Jon Snow scene, the scenes he had in episode 6 were exactly what I was hoping for all along... I just wish that kind of scene happened in episode 2 or 3 by now, and that by this point we'd be deep into seeing wildlings or something like the giant pale spiders. As a whole, this season's been greatly disappointing on his front.

The Dany plot is as uninteresting and shitty as ever.

What did the note that Arya stole say? I only saw the words "Robb Stark" and that was it.

Also, this may just be my off-key conspiracy theories, but I feel like the crew captain guy behind Theon must be pulling all of Theon's strings and controlling him for his father, without Theon realizing it. I could be wrong, but this is how it feels for me. idk

As a whole, episode 6 is definitely BY FAR the best episode of season 2 thus far and is on par with most of the episodes from the first season.

At 5/7/12 07:01 PM, Bees wrote: also, i read the second book around this time last year, so i don't remember much, but did arya and tywin talk as much as they are talking now? i like their scenes, it really gives that "if i were any other person, we would be friends" mutual tone to it.

They're never in the same room as each other. She becomes cupbearer for Roose Bolton after the weasel soup incident. She's working under Weese when Tywin is in Harrenhal.

At 5/7/12 09:58 PM, AniMetal wrote: Did Rodrick not die in the books? Or die differently?

He dies a little later in the book, and is killed by someone else. Still ultimately Theon's fault, but he doesn't have to swing the sword himself.

Something has gone seriously wrong when I'm going to be rooting for Ramsay Bolton.

Who?

The Bastard that Roose mentioned sending from the Dreadfort to rescue Winterfell. He's probably the most unlikeable character in the series.

I really enjoyed the riot scene as well, I just wish it lasted longer and so we could've seen more destruction from it. Unless it was only a minor thing in the book too, and wasn't a huge full scale thing. Also, am I wrong in assuming that Sansa was actually gangraped in the book? Knowing GRRM's humor and graphic nature, this wouldn't surprise me.

No, it was big in the book, and much of the city slums burned in the riots. Sansa isn't raped, and her rescue happens "off screen" as it's a Tyrion chapter, so you see it all through his eyes. My favourite part of the episode, definitely.

And, i'm confused, so Tyrion actually wanted to ship off the princess to Dorne? I thought... that he was just telling stories to fish out Cersei's spy among the council and that he wasn't planning to send her off at all? I'm so confused, someone explain this for me?

I don't think he ultimately cared where Myrcella ended up, and just sent her to Dorne to keep up his bluff. I'm wondering how they'll handle the Dorne stuff. The Kingsguard who goes with her, Arys Oakheart, is only played by an extra at the minute, and he becomes a POV character.

I really liked the Jon Snow scene, the scenes he had in episode 6 were exactly what I was hoping for all along... I just wish that kind of scene happened in episode 2 or 3 by now, and that by this point we'd be deep into seeing wildlings or something like the giant pale spiders. As a whole, this season's been greatly disappointing on his front.

Even less happens in the book. He just lets Ygritte go and carries on into the Frostfangs. Doesn't get interesting until the next book.

The Dany plot is as uninteresting and shitty as ever.

The Dragons being stolen isn't from the book. Think it's just a plot to get her into the House of the Undying. She just goes on her own originally.

Also, this may just be my off-key conspiracy theories, but I feel like the crew captain guy behind Theon must be pulling all of Theon's strings and controlling him for his father, without Theon realizing it. I could be wrong, but this is how it feels for me. idk

Dagmer Cleftjaw (who doesn't have a clefjaw in the show). It could well be the case, as there's another character in the show who pushes Theon to do evil shit (not for Balon, just for fun), but he's been cut, so I could see them moving it over to Dagmer.

At 5/8/12 06:52 AM, TheMaster wrote: Roose Bolton

General whom was cut out of the show, i'm assuming?

after the weasel soup incident.

lolwut

She's working under Weese when Tywin is in Harrenhal.

So does she still meet and interact with Tywin?

The Bastard that Roose mentioned sending from the Dreadfort to rescue Winterfell. He's probably the most unlikeable character in the series.

Makes sense. Is this a different Roose from the one you mentioned earlier?

Also, i'm really wondering if Littlefinger realized the cupbearer was Arya... and even more, i'm not wondering what happened to Gendry as well as what's on that note about Robb Stark she stole. AND WHO IS HER LAST KILL GOING TO BE? I really hope it's a legitimate character she ends up using the last kill on and not some nobody like the first two have been.

At 5/8/12 07:31 PM, AniMetal wrote: Also, i'm really wondering if Littlefinger realized the cupbearer was Arya...

yeah when littlefinger was eyeing her i thought, even though i've read, if he could have remembered here. i don't recall them ever meeting, even in the show. she was always either locked in her room or with her sword trainer, and littlefinger was always shitting on varys.

and even more, i'm not wondering what happened to Gendry

he's a blacksmith now, no? tywin puts the prisoners to work because some of them actually have some skill or can otherwise be useful hence arya becoming a cup bearer.

as well as what's on that note about Robb Stark she stole. AND WHO IS HER LAST KILL GOING TO BE? I really hope it's a legitimate character she ends up using the last kill on and not some nobody like the first two have been.

her kills were always stupid. i felt that if the death could be as immediate as the second one was, she could have said a name that would actually make a huge mark in the entire storyline.

At 5/8/12 07:53 PM, Bees wrote: yeah when littlefinger was eyeing her i thought, even though i've read, if he could have remembered here. i don't recall them ever meeting, even in the show. she was always either locked in her room or with her sword trainer, and littlefinger was always shitting on varys.

I know they at least met at the tourny where Ser Hugh died, in the show when he told Sansa(and also Arya, since she was clearly listening in) the story of The Mountain and The Hound.

he's a blacksmith now, no? tywin puts the prisoners to work because some of them actually have some skill or can otherwise be useful hence arya becoming a cup bearer.

I guess that'd make sense. haha

her kills were always stupid. i felt that if the death could be as immediate as the second one was, she could have said a name that would actually make a huge mark in the entire storyline.

I'm imagining it's because the first two were there in Harrenhall, and not for instance, in King's Landing.

Originally I had predicted that the first kill would've been someone super minor just to make Arya(And the audience) understand that this Jagen guy was serious about the kills, but then assumed the other two kills would be legitimate and was HOPING she would've said Sansa cause that would be dramatic as fuck. (Considering at this point, Arya probably blames Sansa for her father's death to some degree)

Ah well.

At 5/8/12 08:10 PM, AniMetal wrote: was HOPING she would've said Sansa cause that would be dramatic as fuck. (Considering at this point, Arya probably blames Sansa for her father's death to some degree)

Ah well.

pfft no way, arya is way too smart to blame her sister for that. remember when tywin asked "how'd your father die?" she said "loyalty". she overheard the plot to kill him, anyway. the only hate she has for her sister is that she was always girlier than her, and arya always got in trouble because she didn't care for knitting and all that lame shit. not enough to kill her lol

At 5/8/12 09:04 PM, Bees wrote: pfft no way, arya is way too smart to blame her sister for that. remember when tywin asked "how'd your father die?" she said "loyalty". she overheard the plot to kill him, anyway. the only hate she has for her sister is that she was always girlier than her, and arya always got in trouble because she didn't care for knitting and all that lame shit. not enough to kill her lol

Like I said, for "drama"'s sake. :P

But I wasn't being overly serious.

She better tell Jagen to go kill Joffrey or Cersei. Otherwise this whole three wishes thing would have been a bust.

Btw, what happened to the other two guys that were in the cage with Jagen?

At 5/8/12 09:18 PM, AniMetal wrote: Like I said, for "drama"'s sake. :P

But I wasn't being overly serious.

She better tell Jagen to go kill Joffrey or Cersei. Otherwise this whole three wishes thing would have been a bust.

welp

Btw, what happened to the other two guys that were in the cage with Jagen?

these guys are soldiers or whatever along with jaqen.

Wow, episode six was pretty damn good. Quite a lot actually happens for once if you think about it.

Ygritte grinding all over Jon Snow's junk made me laugh out loud real hard. Best scene ever. That and the spot on scene with the fat priest literally being torn limb from limb just like in the book

Whee~.

At 5/8/12 07:31 PM, AniMetal wrote: General whom was cut out of the show, i'm assuming?

Nah, he's the guy who's been following Robb around, talked about torturing prisoners a few episodes back. One of Robb's bannermen.

lolwut

Didn't want to spoil the events. Those who've read will know what I mean.

So does she still meet and interact with Tywin?

Nope.

Makes sense. Is this a different Roose from the one you mentioned earlier?

No. In the books, he doesn't link up again with Robb's forces. Remember in season 1 when Robb sent the distraction force of 2000 men to attack Tywin? In the book he actually sends about half of his forces, the majority of his footsoldiers, and pushes on to Riverrun with just his cavalry. The forces that attack Tywin are under he commander of Roose Bolton. They're defeated, but retreat with most of their men intact and regroup at Moat Cailan, then continue the war.

Harrenhall is constantly changing hands in the book, something cut from the show, and Roose and his men are able to capture it (with a little help from Arya) after Tywin leaves it under the command of one of his men (Amory Lorch, if I remember right). Afterwards he rewards her (he doesn't know who she is) by allowing her to serve as cupbearer.

At 5/8/12 07:53 PM, Bees wrote: he's a blacksmith now, no? tywin puts the prisoners to work because some of them actually have some skill or can otherwise be useful hence arya becoming a cup bearer.

Yeah, Genry is working as a Smith in Harrenhall. He's basically done for this season, he'll do more later.

her kills were always stupid. i felt that if the death could be as immediate as the second one was, she could have said a name that would actually make a huge mark in the entire storyline.

She's a child. In the books she gets angry after overhearing a guy boast of gang rape, and again after Weese hits her. She regrets choosing who she does later on. Her last choice is genius, though.

At 5/8/12 09:29 PM, Bees wrote:

At 5/8/12 09:18 PM, AniMetal wrote: Btw, what happened to the other two guys that were in the cage with Jagen?

these guys are soldiers or whatever along with jaqen.

Are they in the Brave Companions/Bloody Mummers now, or does that come later? Been a while since I read it. Vargo Hoat has been cut, which is a shame, but I assume the mercenaries are still around.

At 5/10/12 04:05 PM, TheMaster wrote: Are they in the Brave Companions/Bloody Mummers now, or does that come later? Been a while since I read it. Vargo Hoat has been cut, which is a shame, but I assume the mercenaries are still around.

in the books they were at this time, so i guess they are in the show. they haven't even shown rorge or biter except for when they with jaqen in the cage, though.