A story of love.
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Meet J and K, old friends of mine from back when I was in highschool, back in the late 90's.
J and K are both goths, amateur models, both sexually adventurous, both bisexual swingers with an open relationship who love nothing more than to fuck to the movie Necromantic and have infamous threesomes that often include BDSM and edge play, sometimes even vampirism, but they were doing it before Twatlight, so they were way cooler. Two more similiar and well matched people you would never meet.
Now fast forward ten years. K's father dies, leaving her a house and big pile of money. J was always a stage hand for concerts and shows; rarely working, but making enough to get by and meeting awesome people constantly. K leaves J to go live in the big fancy house and lay on her big pile of money after years and years of marriage with her meth head redneck relatives.
K becomes more and more redneck as the months pass, until one day she files for divorce so she can have a more stable relationship with her money. This drives J to start huffing paint and leads to a spiral of depression and sexual frustration. Then his computer fails, and he loses his ability to play Wow, taking the last peice of joy from his life.
The moral of this story?
It's not a fucking story. J's probably gonna kill himself, and there's not shit I can do to stop him. Because his dumbass believed in love.
Money>love.
Don't fucking lie to yourself, or you'll end up huffing paint and crying into your plastic bag full of paint fumes until you die.
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I don't think huffing paint does much for you mentally. And J wasn't apparently that in to open relationships. Sounds like a fucked up situation at best.
A sound mind > $ + love.
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Sounds like J is a pussy. Don't blame something as ambiguous as "love" for the personal failings of someone and their inability to simply move on and live life.
My life sucks = something or someone else's fault. Never mind the fact that I'm a weak chump.
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So there is no love in the world? Is there really only hate? It makes me sad.
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At 5/11/11 01:51 PM, gumOnShoe wrote: I don't think huffing paint does much for you mentally. And J wasn't apparently that in to open relationships. Sounds like a fucked up situation at best.
A sound mind > $ + love.
Disagree.
J loves the D, and K likes guys who love D's. The threesomes they had were always FFM, and that really bothered him because he could never find any openly gay guys to bang. There was a kid named JR for a while, but he ended up drinking a bottle of 'tussin and wrecking his motorcycle on Newyears two years ago.
Also, J's first girlfriend in highschool killed herself.
Worse, J's family is richer than Creosote. He just won't take their money out of principle because they won't accept his love of the D.
The whole episode has of course turned J queerer than an Equestrian rainbow.
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Tell J to take the $ from the fam and go find Ds in his new suite.
Screw the family ethics.
But, yeah, anyways I don't know. It sucks to be gay in America to a certain extent, but I can't help but think some of this drug use is getting in the way. I'm sure you'll disagree, but that's just my upbringing. I've got my own vices, but they don't kill me or my brain little measurable bits at a time.
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Love can make you do some dumb shit sometimes.
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If you think money is the most important thing in life, you are mistaken.
Money is important, but only as important as everything else in life.
For all you people who think money is everything, here's a tip:
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World of cheap people:
Money > Love.
World of enlightened/mature people:
Love > Everything.
If you didn't noticed that in age of 20 or less, then you'll never hear "Welcome to the other side!".
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At 5/11/11 04:55 PM, Makakaov wrote: World of enlightened/mature people:
Love > Everything.
You can't use love to pay your bills.
Ergo, Money > Love
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At 5/11/11 02:02 PM, gumOnShoe wrote: Tell J to take the $ from the fam and go find Ds in his new suite.
Simply for repairing the PC so he can continue playing WoW. all the pleasure a man needs.
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At 5/11/11 04:53 PM, Bobbybroccoli wrote: If you think money is the most important thing in life, you are mistaken.
Money is important, but only as important as everything else in life.
For all you people who think money is everything, here's a tip:
Ah, yes, but you see, LOVE DOESN'T EXIST. IT'S A LIE MADE UP BY HOLLYWOOD TO HELP PEOPLE RELATE EMOTIONALLY TO STORY LINES THAT ARE FOR SALE.
If love isn't real, the love=0.
If money has any value at all, you can give it the smallest possible value: Money=1.
1>0
Or as I like to say "Love in one hand and shit in the other, and tell me which hand gets full first."
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At 5/11/11 05:18 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: Ah, yes, but you see, LOVE DOESN'T EXIST. IT'S A LIE MADE UP BY HOLLYWOOD TO HELP PEOPLE RELATE EMOTIONALLY TO STORY LINES THAT ARE FOR SALE.
There are people who killed themselves because they did not experience, or lost the love. It's a feeling, and it came from anture, the origin. You know when you feel it, and it's a factor that helps people to mate.
If love isn't real, the love=0.
If it isn't, but it is. But let's go on.
If money has any value at all, you can give it the smallest possible value: Money=1.
Why would money have any value at all? It's conventional. It's just an invention of human, like gloves or toothbrush. The value of it is conventional.
Why would a product of human invention be less valuable than an emotion we can't get rid of? The emotion that still has some kind of influence on us, no matter if we have the goddamn money or not? The emotion that can't be taken away by any invention of human?
Love wins with money big time.
Or as I like to say "Love in one hand and shit in the other, and tell me which hand gets full first."
I never held with my hand. I'm talking literaly now.
But seriously, shit might come buckets, but when the hand is full of love, all the shit goes away.
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At 5/11/11 04:59 PM, Chdonga wrote:At 5/11/11 04:55 PM, Makakaov wrote: World of enlightened/mature people:You can't use love to pay your bills.
Love > Everything.
Ergo, Money > Love
Money can't suck your dick.
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I don't care I'd rather have somebody I can love than a lot of money. My dog for example, if I was homeless I would be happy because he would be with me, and I'd make sure he had food before I had food. I don't need money when I have love!
Yeah, whatever.
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Yeah, whatever.
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At 5/11/11 05:26 PM, Makakaov wrote:
There are people who killed themselves because they did not experience, or lost the love. It's a feeling, and it came from anture, the origin. You know when you feel it, and it's a factor that helps people to mate.
That's sex, not love. People kill themselves because they were not HAPPY, not because they didn't believe in some imaginary mysterious force. In fact, they probably killed themselves because they realized that they'd been told their whole lives this miraculous power that makes people happy would happen for them, and that was a lie.
Happens with other faith based beliefs all the time.
Why would money have any value at all? It's conventional. It's just an invention of human, like gloves or toothbrush. The value of it is conventional.
Money represents value. That's the whole point. Otherwise all we'd have is an honor system and OH YEAH, THAT DOESN'T EXIST EITHER.
Why would a product of human invention be less valuable than an emotion we can't get rid of? The emotion that still has some kind of influence on us, no matter if we have the goddamn money or not? The emotion that can't be taken away by any invention of human?
I think you're confusing "love" with "sex" again. You don't have to get rid of things that don't exist. You merely stop talking about them.
Love wins with money big time.
Please then, explain how money wasn't EXACTLY the reason this marriage fell apart? Because let me tell you, if love existed, K and J had it.
I never held with my hand. I'm talking literaly now.
But seriously, shit might come buckets, but when the hand is full of love, all the shit goes away.
Wow, that did not make any sense at all. You ever try to love a gun out of your brother's mouth?
Doesn't work. Ends up you have to fight him for it.
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At 5/11/11 05:58 PM, Piggler wrote:At 5/11/11 04:59 PM, Chdonga wrote:Money can't suck your dick.At 5/11/11 04:55 PM, Makakaov wrote: World of enlightened/mature people:You can't use love to pay your bills.
Love > Everything.
Ergo, Money > Love
Neither can love.
But you can use money to get someone to suck your dick. And you can get enough money to get your dick sucked than you can get a person who loves you to do it.
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At 5/11/11 06:08 PM, Chdonga wrote:Neither can love.
Money can't suck your dick.
But you can use money to get someone to suck your dick. And you can get enough money to get your dick sucked than you can get a person who loves you to do it.
Good point.
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At 5/11/11 06:08 PM, Chdonga wrote: And you can get enough money to get your dick sucked than you can get a person who loves you to do it.
Wow... That was supposed to say you can get enough money to get your dick sucked faster than you can get a person who loves you to do it.
But I'm guessing my post was still understandable.
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Because 2,000 years of "For God so loved the world" doesn't trump 1.2 million years of "Survival of the Fittest."
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At 5/11/11 06:13 PM, Chdonga wrote: But I'm guessing my post was still understandable.
Yeah but that's just dirty...
Yeah, whatever.
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At 5/11/11 06:02 PM, EpicFail wrote: See?
^This.
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At 5/11/11 06:03 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: That's sex, not love.
No, man. You might think that sex = love. Not true. I honestly was a friend, JUST A FRIEND to few girls, and we were JUST FRIENDS. IT IS POSSIBLE. When I met my first girlfriend I didn't loved her for her looks, but for her personality. I wanted to make her life better, protect her any way I want, and feel useful. Because that was and still is what I value. If she wouldn't let me fuck her I'd still love her, because I treat sex as something nice you can do, not the only reason to be with someone.
People kill themselves because they were not HAPPY, not because they didn't believe in some imaginary mysterious force.
And why they were not "HAPPY"? Because they didn't get or lost that imaginary mysterious force of course.
In fact, they probably killed themselves because they realized that they'd been told their whole lives this miraculous power that makes people happy would happen for them, and that was a lie.
I assume you just feel cheated on life because your only love experience from Lady and the Tramp did not met the expectations in the practice. When people kill themselves because of love they kill themselves because the ones they want to be with are dead or rejected them. And as they feel a need to be with them, and they can't do anything about it, they don't want to live at all.
Makes complete sense, and actualy works in general, instead of just an opinion from just a person who just got dissappoint.
Money represents value. That's the whole point.
Still, It's just a conventional invention.
Otherwise all we'd have is an honor system and OH YEAH, THAT DOESN'T EXIST EITHER.
No, there are millions of possible living systems, hundereds thousands of ones without any actual economy, people just don't use it because it's "unmoral" (morality changes with the times, which makes me think that people like you are just trapped in a certain time not looking at the whole case, believeing that what is, has to be), "unfair", and a lot of them were not yet invented by human. Just like the republic idea. It didn't came just like this at the beggining of the civilisation, did it?
I think you're confusing "love" with "sex" again.
Again love =/= sex if you aren't a brainless fucking machine. We live in somehow enlightened times, and we learned not to appreceate only sex so i think it's time for you to move on on that.
You don't have to get rid of things that don't exist. You merely stop talking about them.
Love exists, it's a feeling, I as well as billions of people beafore and at the same time as me experienced it, and no matter how hard you bitch it won't change the fact that it exists. I know, because I experienced it. When you want sex is when you want sex, but when you feel love, then you feel goddamn love, and you can't do anything about it.
Please then, explain how money wasn't EXACTLY the reason this marriage fell apart?
Because of today's systems in work maybe? I wrote beafore, that there are lots of systems that aren't in use because that's just the effect of going a certain way the civilisation has chosen. We could as well have some kind of political ideas where war problem is solved, or there are no countries, or even tribes. It's all possible. People just don't want that because they dance how the morality plays.
Or maybe because some of the marriages are done just for money, thought about that? And why's that? Because with the current systems people are learning that money has great value. Exacly the same thing you belive, so you might know what I'm talking about here. So when people learn that money is important (Children in nazi germany were taught that they are master race, where's the difference from the psychological point of view?), they feel that it is important, and sometimes value it more than enything else.
But hey, it's nothing else than just teaching someone some values from childhood. It happens not only with money, but apparently money is so long with us and people are too busy collecting it that they hardly notice that it's just a conventional idea, like belief in god, or jesus or flying spaghetti monster, or feeling that a certain day is special, or that you are a master race. It all goes to the same bucket.
Because let me tell you, if love existed, K and J had it.
K and J were tuaght the way you are, and the way you were taught about the world is not the best from my point of view, because I bet you didn't even think of half of what I wrote there. while these things just flew through my head like a plane, because that's what happens when you have open mind.
Of course you might disagree. I will still have my opinion on that.
Wow, that did not make any sense at all. You ever try to love a gun out of your brother's mouth?
Ever tried to money it out?
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At 5/11/11 01:47 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: The moral of this story?
It's not a fucking story. J's probably gonna kill himself, and there's not shit I can do to stop him. Because his dumbass believed in love.
Money>love.
No, money>sexual compatibility. That was not love, at least not on both ends, that was at best limeration and sexual hunger.
Don't fucking lie to yourself, or you'll end up huffing paint and crying into your plastic bag full of paint fumes until you die.
It's so easy to believe you're in love when you're not, isn't it?
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But Funk, what about OUR love? That's important, right? Especially since it involves the exchange of money for love each time!
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So because one relationship - fueled by drugs and threesomes - fails, all love is non-existent? Get over yourself and this whole hate philosophy you preach. Love exists, happiness exists - but you have to find it, and in order to do that you need to believe in it. Yes, not all relationships all perfect, shit happens; however, genuine, loving relationships do occur.
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