Decisions, got advice?

[gumOnShoe]

Ah newgrounds, full of angsty teens. If I tickle its dirty belly, will I find wisdom or moldy belly button lint? Lets find out.

I work for a company. It will remain unnamed. The entire department I work with has the "opportunity" to leave and do the same job for another company. There's some risk staying where we are, but more risk for any single individual that stays where he is if the rest of the group goes. $500 additional per year is the benefit for going over to the other company.

Honestly, if that were the situation I'd just go over. But there's more.

I have 17 PTO days I've acquired for an all expenses paid June - July trip to Europe. Amazing, right? I know.

If I go over to the other company I lose all of those days. The company I work for will decide whether they want to pay me for the 17 days. There is no guarantee that they will or won't. I only get 12 days at the new company for the rest of the year. I'll be short 4 days for a 16 day trip.

I can either take that time and not get paid and not have the money to pay back on my debts (school loans, car, rent, utilities) and have 12 days to use for the rest of the year as I expected I'd be able to. Or, I can soak up all of that time, get payed for 12 of them and not have another day off the rest of the year, and still make a little less than I would have.

In the end I'll be down $500. Additionally, it is not likely I'll stay with the new company. I've been planning to leave the old one anyways. So if I take the time off and leave early, I'll owe the new company all the time I took off as PTO. At that point I'll be down about $2000 to $4000 depending on how everything swings. (but at least I'll have a job, lol :( )

Life as an adult sucks. I'm here to ask the innocent and unmaimed what they think I should do. Also, pictures of goofy animals may cheer me up.

[Quinny]

At 5/9/11 08:19 AM, gumOnShoe wrote: Also, pictures of goofy animals may cheer me up.

Challenge accepted.

[DukeRaoul]

You should grab her cock.

[Asandir]

Both options seem bad for me, as far as I understand it, can´t you find a third one? In the end, it is your decision, and you sureley know best what is good for yourself.
Cheers up:

[Gimmick]

So....there is no middle ground?

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[The-Great-One]

If you can find middle ground then I'd suggest going with that if possible a compromise. Other than that I guess you're just gonna have to go with your best judgment.

You are faced with the problem of basically two opportunities, and you want both, but in this case you can't really have both and be happy and choosing one over the other will still not make you happy. All I can offer is this.

When you get an opportunity you should take it, if you don't you will regret it for the rest of your life.

[Evark]

Stick it out with the old company and start making moves for your next thing NOW. You can get your paid days off, not care about a phantom extra $500 over the course of the next year (especially presuming you don't take a pay cut when you move on to the next opportunity), and you won't have your Europe travel plans destroyed or horribly maimed.

Unless there's a factor I'm failing to grasp or otherwise am missing entirely? Seriously though, don't compromise a trip to Europe! I went to Rome and Venice last year and it was so worth the week off without pay that I took (already used my PTO week in the summer to spend it on Nantucket).

[Graduation]

What Evark said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

PTO is free guaranteed money. Plus if you really aren't thinking of sticking around with the new company, then it's really not worth adding them to your resume and then trying to think up a reason as to why you left your old company and moved to the new one. Possible future employers wouldn't see it as very loyal.

[POTaTOS]

Here. It's not too goofy, but it's a big ass rabbit.

[satanbrain]

In 4-8 years you'll cover up the losses of moving to the new company comparing to staying with the old one, stay with the old one.

[gumOnShoe]

At 5/9/11 10:26 AM, Evark wrote: Stick it out with the old company and start making moves for your next thing NOW. You can get your paid days off, not care about a phantom extra $500 over the course of the next year (especially presuming you don't take a pay cut when you move on to the next opportunity), and you won't have your Europe travel plans destroyed or horribly maimed.

Unless there's a factor I'm failing to grasp or otherwise am missing entirely? Seriously though, don't compromise a trip to Europe! I went to Rome and Venice last year and it was so worth the week off without pay that I took (already used my PTO week in the summer to spend it on Nantucket).

The department I work for, one level above my manager is my future father in law. He's the one initiating the entire move. That's the factor that I left out this morning. When he goes, there will be little reason to keep my department where I am. There's a good chance the company I work for will fire me on the spot. Not great, but good. They will need someone to wind things down with their clients or to transfer work to other offices, but long term there's no reason to keep me on.

Unfortunately I have certain requirements that need to be met by whatever job I take. I went to a pretty expensive school, so there's debt to be worried about that I can't just shrug off. And I don't know how it is out where you are Evan, but here there's only so many opportunities for employment, and most of them don't pay nearly well enough. That said, I am going to start sending out my resume tonight.

[Evark]

At 5/9/11 07:40 PM, gumOnShoe wrote: The department I work for, one level above my manager is my future father in law. He's the one initiating the entire move. That's the factor that I left out this morning. When he goes, there will be little reason to keep my department where I am. There's a good chance the company I work for will fire me on the spot. Not great, but good. They will need someone to wind things down with their clients or to transfer work to other offices, but long term there's no reason to keep me on.

Yea, that's the thing I was missing. I didn't see a compelling reason why you would be fired for staying at the current company, but that puts a good perspective on things. I guess it looks like moving with the next company is the best option, given the situation. See what your future father in law has to say... I don't think it could hurt to seek his advice, especially about transferring jobs like this?

How long do you have to stay at the new company to have earned your 12 PTO days? I would take 12 PTO days and perhaps an extra 5 unpaid days for the Europe trip. That way you have most of your expenses covered, and you still have the full vacation (I'm assuming you've already purchased the tickets).

Unfortunately I have certain requirements that need to be met by whatever job I take. I went to a pretty expensive school, so there's debt to be worried about that I can't just shrug off. And I don't know how it is out where you are Evan, but here there's only so many opportunities for employment, and most of them don't pay nearly well enough. That said, I am going to start sending out my resume tonight.

Yea, opportunities are much better around here, especially in the field I'm in. Information Technology in Massachusetts is a solid field to work in. I already have my buddy trying to get me to leave my current position for an entry level position at his work, but the perks and coworkers here are keeping me loyal.

Anyway, that is all the more reason why you want to start your search sooner rather than later. Ideally, as soon as you hear about the position you are in you were searching for jobs. Also ideally, you have a third option lined up once you're forced to finally make this decision for yourself (it makes it that much easier if you've got the leverage against each choice).

Good luck, man.

[Richard]

What have you done to give you the idea that there is a good chance of you being fired if your father in law leaves?