Polka vs. Punk rock.

[FUNKbrs]

Please tell me how punk rockers aren't just polka dots in denial:
1: All songs have the same beat
2: Most songs are about drinking
3: Music generally made by white people
4: lyrically intensive but not particularly melodic
5: designed to be danced badly to
6: Doesn't take itself seriously

I now declare the end of punk rock revisionist history. Long live the storied history of Lawrence Welk and the Polka age!

[CharltonChinchilla]

I've never heard of Polka so Punk wins by default. Sounds wank anyway.

[Asandir]

At 5/8/11 04:22 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: Please tell me how punk rockers aren't just polka dots in denial:

It all makes sense and your english is clearly superior, so I pass and agree with you.

[Sir-Smoke-A-Lot]

i enjoy polka dots

[Drake]

I swear I read the title as both the original intended one and "Polka vs. Daft Punk" at the same time.

[FUNKbrs]

At 5/8/11 04:24 PM, CharltonChinchilla wrote: I've never heard of Polka so Punk wins by default. Sounds wank anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIxDwYB3P Y8&feature=related

Give it a try.

[Sir-Smoke-A-Lot]

At 5/8/11 04:35 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

At 5/8/11 04:24 PM, CharltonChinchilla wrote: I've never heard of Polka so Punk wins by default. Sounds wank anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIxDwYB3P Y8&feature=related

Give it a try.

DAAWG! Dat was jammin!

[FUNKbrs]

At 5/8/11 04:37 PM, EggoBleeder wrote:

At 5/8/11 04:22 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: Please tell me how punk rockers aren't just polka dots in denial:

Punk rockers use distorted guitars.

And polka dots aren't?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIxDwYB3P Y8&feature=related

[Freaki-boy92]

Korpiklaani tend to fit into this category too, as do Orange Goblin- does that mean that drinking metal is polka too?

[FUNKbrs]

At 5/8/11 05:30 PM, Freaki-boy92 wrote: Korpiklaani tend to fit into this category too, as do Orange Goblin- does that mean that drinking metal is polka too?

Pretty much.

I mean, when one style sounds a lot like another style that predates it by what, 150 years? it's more likely a case of "marketing" or what I like to call "punk rock revisionist history" than it is of parallel evolution.

However. Lawrence Welk really pissed on polka hard in the 50's, kind of like what Hee-Haw did to country music in the 70's.

[JKMonkey]

Polka is for the polish, Punk rock is for the brits

[ARGNAGRAM]

IMHO, you should listen to The Clash before generalizing about punk's simpleness

[FUNKbrs]

At 5/8/11 05:36 PM, ARGNAGRAM wrote: IMHO, you should listen to The Clash before generalizing about punk's simpleness

The Clash is a perfect example... of polka....

Remarketed first as punk rock, then as ska, but honestly and truly always polka, even from the very beginning.

But polka... that doesn't sound exciting and new. Noone knew what punk was, or what the "alternative scene" (now remarketed as the "indie" scene) was going to become in later years.

Polka has always been blue collar music. In an age before electricity, the accordion was the loudest and fastest playing instrument available to play to crowds with. Acoustic guitars are too quiet; that's why flamenco players use oversized bodies on their guitars and strum with all fingers at the same time.

Polka was never accepted by the classical music establishment because it's limitations of range and the strict rhythms imposed on it by the accordion's bellows system. Wasn't punk rock never accepted by the rockabilly establishment because of it's simplicity as well?

It seems to be the same thing, just a hundred years later, nothing more. Kids separated from the fine old traditions and cultures by strict Nazi ass parents who want their kids to grow up to be gay hippies and not hard drinking bar wench banging nose knocking Polka Dots.

[ARGNAGRAM]

At 5/8/11 05:44 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

At 5/8/11 05:36 PM, ARGNAGRAM wrote: IMHO, you should listen to The Clash before generalizing about punk's simpleness

The Clash is a perfect example... of polka....

Well, if you say so, I suppose you can find some similarities. I'm just asking you not to generalize and say that all punk music is overly simple and uses the same tune.

[Freaki-boy92]

it's no bad thing that some genres get repackaged though, if it brings them to a new audience- i mean just look at the way that glam rock got repackaged in the 1980s as hair metal, or hard rock got repackaged in the '70s as heavy metal.

[FUNKbrs]

At 5/8/11 05:48 PM, ARGNAGRAM wrote:

Well, if you say so, I suppose you can find some similarities. I'm just asking you not to generalize and say that all punk music is overly simple and uses the same tune.

That's a purist vs innovator argument.

I come down pretty hard on the innovator side of it.

[elcriz000]

punk rock wins every day of the week against ANY genre of music.

[Dean]

I am in your thread, representing the old school British punk rock music.

[RubberTrucky]

Doesn't the same apply to classical music?

[FUNKbrs]

At 5/8/11 06:10 PM, RubberTrucky wrote: Doesn't the same apply to classical music?

Yes it does.

Yngwie Malmsteen is a perfect example of classical music remarketed as blackity black black death metal.

[ForNoReason]

EVERYONE POLKA!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T_gfrpoa yo

[Piggler]

I fail to see how this is polka.

[FUNKbrs]

At 5/8/11 06:49 PM, Piggler wrote: I fail to see how this is polka.

How much do you know about polka to begin with?

It's not all Weird Al Yankovic and Lawrence Welk, you know.

[Drony]

Great, now I'm gonna imagine Black Flag as a polka band

[dj9547]

Wait a minute guys. We're all forgetting about the New York Dolls. C'mon, they essentially helped create punk!

[SpaceWhale]

I love Polka