Good metal drummer?

[J-N-R]

I am looking for a REAL drummer to collaborate with. I don't want someone who makes MIDI beats unless the drum set you have is electronic.

If you have acoustic drums, make sure you can record good quality sound.
If your a MIDI drummer (electric drummer) please make sure you have a good VSTi.

I do not want someone who just uses there mouse or keyboard. I want a real drummer who actually plays them. I will start recording so I can show some samples of me playing, I get decent quality and I am an intermediate player.

Send a PM or reply to the post. Thank you :)

[Chris-V2]

At 5/5/11 03:58 PM, J-N-R wrote:

Good

Metal

Drummer

Wat.

[J-N-R]

At 5/5/11 04:06 PM, LaForge wrote: Sorry bro, but a real drummer hasn't graced this forum in a long time. Trust me, I've been searching.

D:

[Frequality]

I have many ýears experience in drums.. I have a real drumkit and a nice recorder. Well.. The crash is broken, but will get a new one really soon :3

[J-N-R]

At 5/5/11 05:19 PM, Frequality wrote: I have many ýears experience in drums.. I have a real drumkit and a nice recorder. Well.. The crash is broken, but will get a new one really soon :3

Do you think you can send an audio clip of you recording drums (with no crash)? :D

[Frequality]

At 5/5/11 05:22 PM, J-N-R wrote: Do you think you can send an audio clip of you recording drums (with no crash)? :D

Sure! =] Any E-mail or something to send them too? or should I just put them up on newgrounds audio portal? :-) for me it doesn't matter ^^

I will be able to fix this tomorrow. I have the drums at GF parents house and it's middle of the night here so there's no chance to fix this atm.. :/

[J-N-R]

Sure, emails fine. I'll PM you my email.

[WizMystery]

At 5/5/11 04:03 PM, Chris-V2 wrote:

At 5/5/11 03:58 PM, J-N-R wrote:

Good

Metal

Drummer

Wat.

Bobby Jarzombek.

It's possible.

[J-N-R]

At 5/5/11 06:06 PM, WizMystery wrote:

At 5/5/11 04:03 PM, Chris-V2 wrote:

At 5/5/11 03:58 PM, J-N-R wrote:

Good

Metal

Drummer

Wat.

Bobby Jarzombek.

It's possible.

I'm sorry... Are you saying metal drummers are no good? Let me guess, you're in love with Pop, Country and new age rock music.

I think metal drummers are the best and fastest. In fact, on over 3 top 10 lists 7 out of 10 of those drummer were heavy metal drummers. Daniel Erlandsson is a amazing metal drummer. Listen to him :)

[Back-From-Purgatory]

At 5/5/11 06:28 PM, J-N-R wrote:

At 5/5/11 06:06 PM, WizMystery wrote:

At 5/5/11 04:03 PM, Chris-V2 wrote:

At 5/5/11 03:58 PM, J-N-R wrote:

Good

Metal

Drummer

Wat.

Bobby Jarzombek.

It's possible.

I'm sorry... Are you saying metal drummers are no good? Let me guess, you're in love with Pop, Country and new age rock music.

I think metal drummers are the best and fastest. In fact, on over 3 top 10 lists 7 out of 10 of those drummer were heavy metal drummers. Daniel Erlandsson is a amazing metal drummer. Listen to him :)

Virgil Donati (Arguably the worlds best drummer), Mike Mangini (Worlds Fastest hands), Mike Portnoy (Mike Portnoy... That's all that needs be said), Lars Ulrich.

All of them play, or have played metal, and all of them are amazing.

Save the last guy... I felt like including him for comedic effect... My 5 year old niece drums better than Lars does.

But I could name a hell of a lot more... But to avoid derailing the thread any further... This post is just a figment of your imagination. Mmkay?

[WizMystery]

At 5/5/11 06:28 PM, J-N-R wrote: I'm sorry... Are you saying metal drummers are no good? Let me guess, you're in love with Pop, Country and new age rock music.

I think metal drummers are the best and fastest. In fact, on over 3 top 10 lists 7 out of 10 of those drummer were heavy metal drummers. Daniel Erlandsson is a amazing metal drummer. Listen to him :)

Look up Bobby Jarzombek and tell me this again.

Translation: No, all I listen to is metal. I was actually trying to counter that guy's claim that metal drummers suck. Metal drummers are the most proficient of all others... which is why I question myself needing to prove something by naming one of the best of them all.

[Head-Full-Of-Acid]

At 5/5/11 06:54 PM, WizMystery wrote: Metal drummers are the most proficient of all others

Metal drummers would be nothing without their jazz predecessors.

[J-N-R]

At 5/5/11 10:25 PM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote:

At 5/5/11 06:54 PM, WizMystery wrote: Metal drummers are the most proficient of all others

Metal drummers would be nothing without their jazz predecessors.

You're right. Drumming for Jazz is actually really difficult.

[Back-From-Purgatory]

At 5/5/11 10:25 PM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote:

At 5/5/11 06:54 PM, WizMystery wrote: Metal drummers are the most proficient of all others

Metal drummers would be nothing without their jazz predecessors.

Jazz drummers would be nothing without their tribal predecessors. And Tribal drummers would be nothing without their cave man predecessors...

What I'm saying is... everything can be traced back hundreds, if not thousands, of years. There is little to no meaning in belittling one style because it was spawned from another.

Call me anal... but I hate it when people do that.

[WizMystery]

At 5/5/11 10:25 PM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote:

At 5/5/11 06:54 PM, WizMystery wrote: Metal drummers are the most proficient of all others

Metal drummers would be nothing without their jazz predecessors.

I don't...

What does that have to do with...

Sure Jazz drummers may have influenced those of Metal, but how does that make them better? By proficient I just mean in terms of technicality, by the way.

[Head-Full-Of-Acid]

Haha, it's funny how opinions provoke people.

I just don't feel metal drumming to be more proficient than jazz drumming; both can be equally technical, so I don't really see how one expresses more technicality over the other.

And my point was that jazz percussion is often regarded as the most complex and developed playing style, more so than 'tribal beats' and jazz's predecessor (blues rhythm), and I don't find much development in rhythm between jazz and metal, but yeah, that's like my opinion man.

[WizMystery]

At 5/5/11 11:46 PM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote: Haha, it's funny how opinions provoke people.

By that do you mean cause us to reply? That's all I did.

I just don't feel metal drumming to be more proficient than jazz drumming; both can be equally technical, so I don't really see how one expresses more technicality over the other.

And my point was that jazz percussion is often regarded as the most complex and developed playing style, more so than 'tribal beats' and jazz's predecessor (blues rhythm), and I don't find much development in rhythm between jazz and metal, but yeah, that's like my opinion man.

I don't see how something so easily measurable can be opinion... but I guess it depends on the types of Jazz. I listen to mostly Jazz-Heavy Metal anyway.

Also, like I said: Bobby Jarzombek. When teamed up with his brother Ron he's constantly drmming irregular tuplets and often creats a neat effect of changing tempo through unequal distributions of rests.

[Back-From-Purgatory]

At 5/5/11 11:46 PM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote: Haha, it's funny how opinions provoke people.

I just don't feel metal drumming to be more proficient than jazz drumming; both can be equally technical, so I don't really see how one expresses more technicality over the other.

And my point was that jazz percussion is often regarded as the most complex and developed playing style, more so than 'tribal beats' and jazz's predecessor (blues rhythm), and I don't find much development in rhythm between jazz and metal, but yeah, that's like my opinion man.

A statement is not the same as an opinion... And I wasn't commenting on that anyways, that's fine if you prefer Jazz drumming, I have no problem with people saying they like one thing over another. I have a problem with people pulling the, "This was around longer, therefore it's better." card.

Which, sorry to say, you can't take it back now, that's exactly what you did. I suggest if you wish to state your opinion on something, you do it in a less aggressive way next time.

I love both jazz and metal (Everything except country really), but like I said, it irks me when people pull those types of claims.

Besides... any decent metal drummer can play improvised jazz anyways, and I'd imagine it'd be much the same in reverse. The way I see it, a musician should not be judged by their ability in a single area, but by how flexible they are across a broad spectrum of genres. This is why I hold Buckethead, as a guitarist, in such high regard... He can play pretty much anything, he doesn't do any one thing flawless, but the variety in what he can play is astounding.

[Head-Full-Of-Acid]

At 5/5/11 11:55 PM, WizMystery wrote:

At 5/5/11 11:46 PM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote: Haha, it's funny how opinions provoke people.

By that do you mean cause us to reply? That's all I did.

That's this whole thread; my comment was based off your comment to someone else about metal drummers, I merely just felt like addressing it.

I just don't feel metal drumming to be more proficient than jazz drumming; both can be equally technical, so I don't really see how one expresses more technicality over the other.

And my point was that jazz percussion is often regarded as the most complex and developed playing style, more so than 'tribal beats' and jazz's predecessor (blues rhythm), and I don't find much development in rhythm between jazz and metal, but yeah, that's like my opinion man.

I don't see how something so easily measurable can be opinion... but I guess it depends on the types of Jazz. I listen to mostly Jazz-Heavy Metal anyway.

Yeah, my reasoning is flawed. I'm just saying most metal drummers attained their skills by observing the techniques of jazz drummers, and I think it was fair to mention them when we're talking about skill.

At 5/5/11 11:57 PM, Back-From-Purgatory wrote:

At 5/5/11 11:46 PM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote: Haha, it's funny how opinions provoke people.

I just don't feel metal drumming to be more proficient than jazz drumming; both can be equally technical, so I don't really see how one expresses more technicality over the other.

And my point was that jazz percussion is often regarded as the most complex and developed playing style, more so than 'tribal beats' and jazz's predecessor (blues rhythm), and I don't find much development in rhythm between jazz and metal, but yeah, that's like my opinion man.

A statement is not the same as an opinion... And I wasn't commenting on that anyways, that's fine if you prefer Jazz drumming, I have no problem with people saying they like one thing over another. I have a problem with people pulling the, "This was around longer, therefore it's better." card.

So someone can't state an opinion? It's not like I was just stating that "jazz is better because it was before metal", I was also stating that jazz is its predecessor, and was indirectly stating that many of the techniques metal drummers acquire are from jazz drummers, and i find it hard to determine how one playing style can be more proficient than another.

I didn't see the need to fully elaborate, but I suppose I should've; I was just irked by the original statement.

Which, sorry to say, you can't take it back now, that's exactly what you did. I suggest if you wish to state your opinion on something, you do it in a less aggressive way next time.

Uh. I replied to a statement with a statement. Sorry.

I love both jazz and metal (Everything except country really), but like I said, it irks me when people pull those types of claims.

Me too.

Besides... any decent metal drummer can play improvised jazz anyways, and I'd imagine it'd be much the same in reverse. The way I see it, a musician should not be judged by their ability in a single area, but by how flexible they are across a broad spectrum of genres. This is why I hold Buckethead, as a guitarist, in such high regard... He can play pretty much anything, he doesn't do any one thing flawless, but the variety in what he can play is astounding.

I agree. Again, I am sorry for making a needlessly blunt statement; it just makes me teary eyed when jazz is never mentioned in a topic about drummers :'(.

[Back-From-Purgatory]

At 5/6/11 12:26 AM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote: ((Snip snip))

It wasn't the "Jazz came before metal" that irked me, it was the "Metal would be nothing without Jazz" that got me all hot under the hood. It may have been unintentional, but "Metal would be nothing without..." sounds a lot like belittlement of metal drummers to me.

That said, I'm really not that fussed about it, so sorry if you are under the impression that I'm jumping down your throat. Just letting it be known you should choose how you phrase things a little more carefully if you want to state your opinion without upsetting people.

I've made the same mistake many, many times... it's really easy for people to take things out of context because of a poor choice of wording and end up blowing things out of proportion. In fact, I'm very familiar with that type of situation, because I seem to have a way of wording some of my stronger opinions in extremely poor ways, then people jump all over me for it.

And I agree... I do believe a musician should be "measured" by their overall skill, and not by what genre they choose to play.... Unless they play country, then they should go die in a fire.

[WeHaveFreshCookies]

At 5/5/11 04:03 PM, Chris-V2 wrote:

At 5/5/11 03:58 PM, J-N-R wrote:

Good

Metal

Drummer

Wat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le8LzVkhr lg&feature=youtube_gdata_player