Top entries from 04/21/2004!

[P-Bot]

Hello NG-fans! P-Bot here, with today's hottest games and movies submitted to the Portal:

1. Dragonforce, by DBarbarian (also known for Battle Pong)
   
2. presidential knockout, by MiniClip
   
3. Foamy Card CUlt Update, by illwillpress
   
4. TNM: The Siege P2 preview, by makaaoh
   
5. Die Maschine, by CrayonParade

We also have new submissions by the following popular artists:
alexsmolik, AntiClockClock, boardermike, bobtheleprechaun, ComaCabra, CutePirate, Evil_Andrew, Gusto_, iamasuckah, Kan0, knucklesfanatic, MarcusRaven, mr_a, oxxenking, RavenJinn, RawJoe, Smokey821, SPLANKGY, Splice, theNeville, thesugarking, TheTian, VashHash, vastcool and Voxton

What does everyone think of these new submissions?

[ZombieLennon]

fuck off illwillpress

[Red]

What is up with people hating IWillPress
Leave him alone, jeez, if you are annoyed by his work don't watch it
Get a life instead of wasting it chewing him out
You seriously would make more of a stand if the people who disliked him left him alone instead of chewing him out
By dissing him you are just giving him more recognition lol you idiots.
You really think he cares if you hate him?
To him any recognition is good lol

[Red]

IllWillPress*
Oops hehe misspell =P

[chillville2003]

WOW!

~CV

[DJRunaway]

Rith sucks :P I, iamasuckah, didn't create that horrible movie, but I got forced to upload it with a gun against my head :P!

[DJRunaway]

At 4/22/04 04:28 AM, iamasuckah wrote: Rith sucks :P I, iamasuckah, didn't create that horrible movie, but I got forced to upload it with a gun against my head :P!

PS. Rith is a communist, don't mind him!

[ZombieLennon]

At 4/22/04 02:10 AM, Red_XV wrote: What is up with people hating IWillPress
Leave him alone, jeez, if you are annoyed by his work don't watch it
Get a life instead of wasting it chewing him out
You seriously would make more of a stand if the people who disliked him left him alone instead of chewing him out
By dissing him you are just giving him more recognition lol you idiots.
You really think he cares if you hate him?
To him any recognition is good lol

lol, so if I say "Wow Hitler was a jerkfor nuking the jews", thereby I'm doing him a favor by talking badly about him which in turn is giving him some publicity so that's a good thing in the end? I don't care about publicity, it's just my opinion that he sucks at everything he attempts. You know, there are words for people like you, the word is fascist. "Oh, leave that poor Furher alone, his Mein Kampf didn't do anything to you!". Well, I don't care. I think he's a faggot, and I don't care what others think or I'm banned for having an opinion that he's a faggot for his pathetic attempt at whatever it is he calls his Flash. I swear to god, maybe 3 years ago if he submitted his work to NG, it would have been some kind of amazing achievement in Flash, but jesus christ, this is 2004: we have Jim Ether, he submits a new flash that's amazing and original, and almost everyone looks over him. This so called lord and master submits the same flash with a different title, and everyone farts out praise for it. Fucking brilliant.

[Goatchrist]

Damn, illwillpress got a damn 3rd place for this piece of shit...well, what can we do about it....

[Cyberdevil]

At 4/22/04 09:01 AM, -HeadBanger- wrote: Damn, illwillpress got a damn 3rd place for this piece of shit...well, what can we do about it....

Yeah,to think he got 3rd place,shouldve gotten first,hahah=P
So you dont like illwill either,do you?

[Goatchrist]

At 4/22/04 10:49 AM, cyberdevil wrote: So you dont like illwill either,do you?

"Don't like" ? That was nicely said :D the hatred

[BareNakedSneepioo]

At 4/22/04 02:01 AM, Track14 wrote: fuck off illwillpress

Can you do better? I think his movies are good to go. They rule.

[Lord-of-Djin]

I thought that presidential knockout wwas good but a little dissapointing. It wasn't veryt hard and yes, i did do it on the hard setting. Meh, it was still a good game.

[Evil-Dog]

At 4/22/04 05:16 AM, Track14 wrote:

"Well, I don't care. I think he's a faggot, and I don't care what others think or I'm banned for having an opinion that he's a faggot for his pathetic attempt at whatever it is he calls his Flash"

In fact, what is pathetic is what you're saying, coming from someone who only achieved to get an Underdog award after making more than 20 flash movies.
So when you will have half the talent IllWillPress have, you may try again to insult his work, then it may have the slightest meaning.

[Cyberdevil]

At 4/22/04 11:07 AM, -HeadBanger- wrote:

"Don't like" ? That was nicely said :D the hatred

Yes,the hatred...i dont get why people hate him that much though,maybe you could give an explenation?

[Cyberdevil]

At 4/22/04 11:56 AM, Evil-Dog wrote: "Well, I don't care. I think he's a faggot, and I don't care what

OMFG,even the punk-o-matic creator thinks illwill sucks!=D

[CrayonParade]

At 4/22/04 11:56 AM, Evil-Dog wrote:
In fact, what is pathetic is what you're saying, coming from someone who only achieved to get an Underdog award after making more than 20 flash movies.
So when you will have half the talent IllWillPress have, you may try again to insult his work, then it may have the slightest meaning.

Who gives a fuck if he hasn't won anything? Whatever happened to animating for the sake of animating and not for winning awards?

Get off your high horse, Punk-o-Matic didn't start a Flash revolution or anything faggot.

[Evil-Dog]

At 4/22/04 01:12 PM, CrayonParade wrote: Who gives a fuck if he hasn't won anything? Whatever happened to animating for the sake of animating and not for winning awards?

What are you talking about ? Awards are a proof of talent whether you like it or not, it doesn't have to do with your goals when you're animating, like you I do it for fun, but the fact remains, there are lame people who are whining about illwillpress just cause they hate his success, it's that simple.

[Evil-Dog]

At 4/22/04 12:02 PM, cyberdevil wrote:

At 4/22/04 11:56 AM, Evil-Dog wrote: "Well, I don't care. I think he's a faggot, and I don't care what

OMFG,even the punk-o-matic creator thinks illwill sucks!=D

I quoted someone, I didn't say illwillpress is a faggot.
Illwillpress does good stuff although it's not the best stuff out there, but lots of people (who liked him before) now think he's an asshole for some reason I don't quite understand, in my opinion it's plain jealousy.

[Cyberdevil]

At 4/22/04 01:43 PM, Evil-Dog wrote:

I quoted someone, I didn't say illwillpress is a faggot.
Illwillpress does good stuff although it's not the best stuff out there, but lots of people (who liked him before) now think he's an asshole for some reason I don't quite understand, in my opinion it's plain jealousy.

Ok,usually quoted messages are in grey you know?=Pbtw,i submitted a song i made on punk-o-matic as a "trbute to punk-o-matic" to the audio portal,that ok,right?Some other guys were saying that would be stealing the music from punk-o-matic...but punk-o-matic is made to make music=D

[Red]

People could just be jealous of IllWill
And in their stage of low self-esteem and hunger for attention
They chew him out =D

[Evil-Dog]

At 4/22/04 02:01 PM, cyberdevil wrote:

At 4/22/04 01:43 PM, Evil-Dog wrote:

I quoted someone, I didn't say illwillpress is a faggot.
Illwillpress does good stuff although it's not the best stuff out there, but lots of people (who liked him before) now think he's an asshole for some reason I don't quite understand, in my opinion it's plain jealousy.

Ok,usually quoted messages are in grey you know?=Pbtw,i submitted a song i made on punk-o-matic as a "trbute to punk-o-matic" to the audio portal,that ok,right?Some other guys were saying that would be stealing the music from punk-o-matic...but punk-o-matic is made to make music=D

Yeah that'S fine with me, but I think the audio portal policy is more for music that you compose, making music with the punkomatic isn't really composing...I don't know...some people put their punkomatic song on the audio portal, I guess it's ok hehe i really don't know :)

[ClockOArctic]

first I hear people arguing how "skill doesnt matter anymore on this site, if its funny itll get a five" now awards actually display skill? Fuck that. I've seen movies far better than IWP's shit that lose out on awards.

So, as to not waste anymore of my precious time on that faggot, I'll end by saying:

Fuck off ill will press.

[Red]

Another good explination at this point would be that the people in this fourm that are saying "Fuck off IllWIllPRess" are the ones from the Card Cult who sent the emtpy enevelopes so now they feel stupid because IllWill made them look like losers =D so they chew him out of embarassment and rage
Hehehehe

[Evil-Dog]

At 4/22/04 02:37 PM, ArcticEntertainment wrote: first I hear people arguing how "skill doesnt matter anymore on this site, if its funny itll get a five" now awards actually display skill? Fuck that. I've seen movies far better than IWP's shit that lose out on awards.

So, as to not waste anymore of my precious time on that faggot, I'll end by saying:

Fuck off ill will press.

Far better in your opinion maybe, if the majority votes higher it's cause a majority prefer IllWillpress's movie, it's not hard to understand, it's democracy, people vote high on what they like and low on what they don't, the awards show (let me correct myself) not talent but rather the appreciation of the audience, so people whining about some artists should just get over it and watch something else.

[Evil-Dog]

At 4/22/04 02:46 PM, Red_XV wrote: Another good explination at this point would be that the people in this fourm that are saying "Fuck off IllWIllPRess" are the ones from the Card Cult who sent the emtpy enevelopes so now they feel stupid because IllWill made them look like losers =D so they chew him out of embarassment and rage
Hehehehe

hahaha that'S a believable scenario :P

[Goatchrist]

At 4/22/04 02:37 PM, ArcticEntertainment wrote: first I hear people arguing how "skill doesnt matter anymore on this site, if its funny itll get a five" now awards actually display skill? Fuck that. I've seen movies far better than IWP's shit that lose out on awards.

So, as to not waste anymore of my precious time on that faggot, I'll end by saying:

Fuck off ill will press.

You couldn't have said it better :) It's all true! Please have my babies

[HiTLeRbOy]

At 4/22/04 01:12 PM, CrayonParade wrote: Who gives a fuck if he hasn't won anything? Whatever happened to animating for the sake of animating and not for winning awards?

Get off your high horse, Punk-o-Matic didn't start a Flash revolution or anything faggot.

Evil-Dog = 0wn3d

[fffffffffff]

Are you Illwillpress fans completely incapable of an intellegent argument?

I really normally wouldn't give a shit either way, but you people need to get off your fucking high horses.
Ever heard the phrase "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers?"
It was about people like you.

Just because 4 people agree that Illwillpress is fine with the negative publicity doesn't mean it's right, it just means you're giving off the illusion of it being right with your masses of stupidity.

"What is up with people hating IWillPress
Leave him alone, jeez, if you are annoyed by his work don't watch it
Get a life instead of wasting it chewing him out
You seriously would make more of a stand if the people who disliked him left him alone instead of chewing him out
By dissing him you are just giving him more recognition lol you idiots.
You really think he cares if you hate him?
To him any recognition is good lol"

Discluding all of the terrrible grammer punctuation and spelling, let's focus on the logic here.
If we ignore something while the retarded masses flock to it and worship it, it will go away?
That makes absolutly no sense. That's the attitude the League of Nations took when Hitler invaded the Rhineland, and look what happened there, you ignorant fuck.
By expressing hatred for a person who gains undeserved recognition, we somehow have no social life? And yet a 27 year old man who spends 16 hours a day on a cartoon squirrel, making next to no money, and an army of thousand of 13 year olds who aren't even sure of what a real social life is somehow have more life experience?
I'm not even going to argue this point; it's self explanatory.

LOL, that is such a valid point. Its the basic premise that any publicity is good publicity. I love it, excellent post by the way. Also i like your banner alot.
Only true in hollywood, and even then not completely true. I'm sure Charlton Heston didn't exactly explode overnight after his interview on Bowling for Columbine, just as I'm sure animators discontentment with Illwillpress can never be truly good. It's always wise to ignore critics, and even though Illwillpress (supposedly) turned down big publishers who would have altered NY, it's a completely different story when people of the same feild as you, your peers, essentially, tell you you're doing something wrong.
Arrogance will get you places, but it can't gegt you everywhere. I'm not saying Jon Mathers needs to start kissing asses, I'm just saying he alwayas only do what he wants to do and expect to succeed in any demographic other than you 13 year old assholes.

And all of that context about awards is highly subjective, because things like DBZ, Stick Figures, Neurotically Yours, and the Video Game movies have (unwittingly or not) brught hoards of idiots to newgrounds, and the general opinion of newgrounds users has changed signiicantly, for the worse. Wonderful movies that deserve a rediculous amount of credit end up ignored because this new demographic ignores it. Hardly a meaningful or interesting movie has gone by that hasn't been attacked by dozens if not hundreds of assholes saying things like "LOL TAHT DOSNT MAKE ANY SENSE U FAGIT I BLAMMED IT LOL." And worse yet, these arrogant fucks have been grouping together (need I even mention the NGAArmy?)

It has nothing to do with jealousy.
Okay, scratch that, maybe it does have to do with jealously. Maybe people are jealous and mad over Illwillpress's complete fucking lack of talent, but stupid abilty to gain recognition.

Take a second and think about it: The only reason the NY series is popular at all is because of that fucking grey blob that's supposed to pass as a squirrel.
The idiot 13 year olds flock to that fucking thing because it's just like them: A little, bitter, angry, ranting shit that hates everything and thinks it's funny.
9/10 of what Illwillpress shits out can hardly pass for intellegent humor. How the fuck can you even begin to assert that when one of the most laughed at NY lines is "Oh jeese, there's a booger on your butt."
Following along this vain are Pill-z and Bagelly, which is basically significant of the little bitter angry ranting shits that hate everything and think they're funny banning together and proverbially raping everything they see.

Quite simply, Illwillpress has never had more artistic talent than the majority of newgrounds users. His backgrounds are tracebitmapped images with curves that have been straightened and optimized a few too many times, and his art lacks basic understanding of anatomy. I believe it was Matt Groening that said "Good character design is evident when you can recognize a character by their outline." If you were to line up the NY "characters" and drop them onto a white background, and make them all sillouettes, you couldn't tell the fucking difference between any of the squirrels, or half the male characters, or Germaine and that stupid chick from Slice of Life.

Further, any even general inspection of Illwillpress.com could be taken as an insult to web design. Illwillpress lists his "realted" meta tag with Jhonen Vsquez, Roman Dirge, and people of the professional Edward Gorey-styled comics, and he doesn't even really need bandwidth for Illwillpress.com, really, because his bbs is on another website entirly, AS ARE HIS FLASH MOVIES. That's right, if you check out the movies directly from illwillpress.com, check out the source code of the movie window. The html clearly points out that he's leeching bandwidth from various sites, and violating numerous versions of terms & conditions.
Then he's off to preach about quality and honesty.

And I can't go without mentioning the continuous attacks of character on the clockcrew by his rabid fans, who were quick to aggress, but slow to be humble when Wade accussed the CC of being soley responsible for the UFCD, then retracted his statement after becoming more aware.

You're such a load of assholes, too reassured by eachother's ignorance to understand how absolutly rediculous you sound with any of your bullshit arguments.

FUCK ILLWILLPRESS.

[Red]

Jesus Christ, this man, is one lonely lonely person.
Congrats on typing a huge ass essay and wasting your life =)