At 4/4/11 11:42 AM, SkeletonGimp wrote: The Regular's lounge is nothing more then a slightly more intelligent General Forum, but I suppose it's a bit of a breath of fresh air.

Oh yeah, I'm not denying that.

The idea of 'standardisation' on a BBS forum is what usually drives me away from making any real effort to contribute in there. That said, I also happen to be pretty lazy and don't adequetly set time aside to indulge in keyboard tapping for creativity :/

What I mean more primarily is formatting. This is for the sake of regulars really, so they can save getting 'annoyed' at work for newcomers that is accidentally not paragraphed and indented because of the BBS'/ userpage blog's technical limitations. Obviously the portal is supposed to counteract that so it's more specialised, but if we're trying to be friendly for the long time being (like I've tried to push or at least have done in the past), then some people are caught off-guard by 'advice' on BBS formatting. That, and I've seen harsher judges in the competitions really clamp down on that... albeit, it is usually mentioned under the guidelines in the case of competitions.

Not that I'm naysaying experimental formatting. If it's done well, ahem.

The other point is just clutter avoidance, like I personally think individual folk should keep their poems (in particular) to one thread. Upon opening, it was just... well. Stories are a bit more contentious, though I think more prolific users should automatically be a little wary.

No standardisation points should be about word limits and the like. In fact, more points should be made about criticism, though I know not everyone wants a block of advice. I think it's entirely possible to balance the casual and the SERIOUZ.

Which brings me to my fantasy blowjob-reception of having a portal that's sort of similar to Helium.com, where users get rewarded for reading and critiquing as well as writing. But no, that's very eugh.

You can, but you'd be wrong. Lololololo.

Mostly just kidding, having been a Wi/Ht fan in the past. The only reason I'm not still there is because I probably don't know most of the answers anymore. That, and I'm always supposed to be doing work. Which I never do.

Did you woop and cheer and idolise the last guy who gave you atleast moderatly good customer service?

That said, I think people (rightfully for the most part as they're decent, friendly chaps) speak very highly of the (mostly mod) regs there, see Auz, Bahamut, reverend, Coop, etc. People still think good of gfoxcook and so on too.

At 4/4/11 11:51 AM, Gagsy wrote:
None taken, as I was speaking from experience :(

Still, didn't hurt to point out I wasn't trying to offend you in any way.

To be honest I don't mind when people dislike me. I give people enough reason to dislike me for my thoughts and opinions. It's when they dislike me because I'm Gagsy that I don't like. That's a stupid reason to dislike someone, because people know them on an internet forum more than they know you.

Well, some people are just jelly, while others spiteful.

Being a lurker, I'm mostly an unknown on the BBS outside of the meet up regulars and a few other people who see me post from time to time. I don't have any of the shit to deal with people like you, Luis and Poozy etc have to deal with and I'm glad of it.

There are others who hate Gagsy and think she's the biggest attention whore/white knight on Newgrounds. Some express this offensively, while others a better at showing their disapproval by simply avoiding abusive language and instead using logic and common sense when debating with her.

I'd love to 'bate with you sometime ;)

Maybe you should stop by some time. We can 'bate long into the night ;)

When you have a yellow aura.
You make an incredibly popular flash series or theme that appeals to 13 year olds.
You're a whore.

Any o' the above.

I have no clue. Still don't have respect.

At 4/4/11 11:42 AM, Sheizenhammer wrote:

At 4/4/11 11:38 AM, Evark wrote: To get respect, one must be respectable.

Or have a yellow aura. That works too.

Well, yea. But that's only because it's inherently respectable to have an aura color that requires an administrator to say "hmm, that user's respectable enough to police our shit!"

Hell, if anything it works better than trying to act reasonably on here. Damn kids and their inability to see past some colours on the side of the posts.

Oh, you're British. : b

But yea, people put a lot of value on whether or not someone made them laugh or kept them entertained. The only reason moderators are inherently interesting to read is because there's the chance (however small) that we banned a user or berated someone publicly for sucking on the forums.

Trying not to toot my own horn or anything, just putting it out there.

At 4/4/11 07:18 AM, HighWay wrote: When you make good threads and / or posts. It's not hard really.

I know '11ers who can do this well, and I know '05ers who struggle with this. It's not about level to me. Post count does have a lot to do with it, but there are some users with high post counts who don't know shit about carrying on an intelligent conversation.

At 4/4/11 12:00 PM, Scarab wrote:

Mostly just kidding, having been a Wi/Ht fan in the past. The only reason I'm not still there is because I probably don't know most of the answers anymore. That, and I'm always supposed to be doing work. Which I never do.

I'm not expert in anything really, so I can't comment or judge on anyone's skills to offer advice other then know your shit.

That said, I think people (rightfully for the most part as they're decent, friendly chaps) speak very highly of the (mostly mod) regs there, see Auz, Bahamut, reverend, Coop, etc. People still think good of gfoxcook and so on too.

Meh, Rev, Bahamut and Coop are more respected and well known in a general BBS sense because they get everywhere. Coop posts in General from time to time, is a massive force in the Writer's forum and happens to be actively involved in Clubs and Crews. As is the case with most Wi/Ht regs. They're sung more for being general all round Nice Guys and community supporters then Wi/Ht regulars.

The fact that you think stats=respect is laughable, and you don't deserve a spec of respect.

At 4/4/11 12:13 PM, Mendou wrote: The fact that you think stats=respect is laughable, and you don't deserve a spec of respect.

I'll always respect Josh. He used to teach me about anime.

i expect none, i get none, nor do i give any...
while its nice to have to people on here you can carry a conversation with, most users get to my nerves... yet im still here... -_-

At 4/4/11 12:15 PM, Stereocrisis wrote: For one, this website is for immature teenagers who are probably upper or middle class because they have a computer. Most of these people don't have jobs, or the ones that do aren't actually supporting themselves, and are living off of mom and/or dad. The crowd here is bored, hostile, and most are still in either middle school, or high school.

I find that offensive. Newgrounds BBS might be for teenagers, but the portals have been generating top quality stuff for years, attracting people from art-critics to website designers all the way to working class adults like me who come here for a laugh.

Politics happens to be filled with some pretty smart people who know their laws and constitution and the Writer's forum has published writers.

Lumping the whole site with one small niche group is a bit unfair, considering the majority of people who turn out to meets tend to be 15-25(ish), with the odd 30-40 year old fan every now and again.

So I ask you, why would you want respect here? Respect from a loser is just what it sounds like. Nobody cares. Now, respect from a respectful, thoughtful person is much more valuable. These children are the kids who beg their parents for money, and don't do their homework because they are stoned or just plain stupid.

Again, not all users on the BBS are losers, let alone those that don't come on the BBS.

There are some really respectable, intelligent people here, such as Coop, Narcissy and BananaBreadMuffin who do a lot for various parts of the BBS to make it a better, more intelligent and thoughtfull place for discussion. Just because general has its share of wasters, no-lifes and bored people looking for luls doesn't mean there aren't some excellent debators who can offer challanging and constructive conversation.

/rant

But seriously, General is full of losers :D

At 4/4/11 12:15 PM, Stereocrisis wrote:
So I ask you, why would you want respect here? Respect from a loser is just what it sounds like. Nobody cares. Now, respect from a respectful, thoughtful person is much more valuable.

Hmm, at that, who is good enough to matter anyway? Overall, do you need respect from anyone? In the end, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks of you, as long as you think you are awesome yourself.

But it is something that obtaining respect from the regulars at NG is a big bonus. If regulars are treating you like dirt, you might as well know that you will never ever earn any respect on here.

If you're not part of some stickam circle-jerk, good fucking luck getting respect around these parts.

You get "respect"(I prefer the word notoriety instead) when you're either an attention whore or make "good" posts.

I'll be honest, I judge people on their sign up date, post count, level, aura, and username.
sign up date - anything before 09
post count - 3k+
level - 25+
aura - anything but dark or evil
username - a name that doesn't have numbers in it or isn't stupid.

At 4/4/11 01:10 PM, Magical-Zorse wrote: aura - anything but dark or evil

fuck you too... >:C

You need to chop off your dick.

At 4/4/11 12:33 PM, Stereocrisis wrote: Hey, if so many people here are intelligent, when I write a thoughtful post, or add something decent to the writing forum, where are the people like you? I have never had an intelligent response to anything meaningful I've ever had to say on this site, EVER.

Well, there're only a few possibilities then:
- Your idea of intelligent response is unreasonable
- Your appraisal of how meaningful your post was is inaccurate
- People who tend to respond interestingly didn't see it

None of those are really the fault of this forum, or its user base... except that it is a large forum with a large user base (and so, naturally, things move faster and receive less overall exposure).

Or, when the "so-called" intelligent people do respond, it's usually a lot of grand-standing and one-ups. I don't see the point in having intelligence if they are going to be dicks about it. You know what I mean? The cocky passive-agressive nerds who think they know it all. You can't have any meaningful conversations here. If you try to get into one, they tell you to google it, and make some asshole comment like, "haven't you ever heard of google?"

You're citing a specific instance of something you've encountered within your general example... ? Smart people don't also have to be nice people. I dunno. I guess it just boils down to the fact that you say you have never had any meaningful conversation on here, whereas I can say (with considerably more experience) that I have had several dozens of meaningful conversations here and several dozens more with people I've met here outside of the forum environment.

So if you're not getting anything out of it when you look to initiate a meaningful or intelligent conversation I don't think it's fair to blame others here for it. Nor is it practical. Nor will it change that fact. You must look to your own behavior as the only variable for getting a good conversation up and running.

At 4/4/11 01:47 PM, Evark wrote: Smart people don't also have to be nice people. I dunno.

In my experience for the most part, smarter people are less likely to be generically 'nice'. Doubly goes for smart, creative people. I won't hide that most of my idols (especially the singer-songwriters in there seemingly) are/were considered to be within the 'undesirable' range, from being a bit of an arrogant arse to a complete self-serving social miscreant with potential depression issues.

I guess it just boils down to the fact that you say you have never had any meaningful conversation on here, whereas I can say (with considerably more experience) that I have had several dozens of meaningful conversations here and several dozens more with people I've met here outside of the forum environment.

I think one of the greater aspects of NG's close-knit community is that it's easy to tell one user from the next due to all of the features, and because users tend to get a feel for things in the community. This means that it's easier to get into one-on-one friendships that I too can say, with less experience, are pretty nice to experience.

It's a shame that I'm not the person to jump for it. I don't usually talk unless talked to in my non-nocturnal/blue life. I sometimes wish I had a different website to become a part of now, because I don't really feel as if the place thoroughly interests me anymore because I'm not really in the best ballpark for it. Of course, I obviously need a website, obviously. Mostly something to validate my guiding sense of masochism I suppose. Being something of a punchline on these forums is, as you would expect, good for that at least. It's like anti-respect.

On the flip side, I hope to get luck and to discover Luis is planning a meet-up in Cropredy, Oxfordshire.

At 4/4/11 07:25 AM, Trystlions wrote: I wish somebody would give me some respect.

No one loves me :(

Shut it bitch.

Trying to get respect over the internet is like trying to get a blowjob through the mail.