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At 7/3/04 06:52 AM, NoHitHair wrote:

:Aristocracy, or possibly an Oligarchy.

The United States is not, in the true sense of the word, a democracy. We have ties of Aristocracy and Democracy in our government. That's why it functions as a domocratic nation and a republic at the same time.

Yes, while the people have the voice, we are governed, or so it is supposed to be, by intellegant people.

Though, that's besides the point. I said that in order for democracy to work, it had to be run by intellegent people. I didn't say anything about giving out IQ tests to vote. Simply put, the nation needs to be more politically "in the know" to make good calls. What you're telling me is that you want to leave that to sixteen year olds who hardly even have their own money, relatively no tax paying history, can't even sign legal documents without the consent of a parent/guardian, and are probably the absolute worst target for demagoguery out of all age groups? It's a recipe for disaster. You're placing power in people that just aren't mature enough yet; people are just getting pissy over their own definition of "mature".

UMMMM why i dont wana VOTE i VOTE to NOT LOWER THE VOTING AGE LOL JK

At 7/4/04 12:01 AM, darkmage8 wrote: What you're telling me is that you want to leave that to sixteen year olds

Yup. That's exactly what I said. Apparently, I said that we should abolish all voting privileges of anyone over the age of 18 and ONLY allow those between 16-18 to vote. Thank you for clarifying what I said.

I'm lost without people to guide me through my own intentions.

At 4/21/04 07:44 AM, NoHitHair wrote:

. But those same people aren't allowed to vote on any of the above issues. Additionally, the ones who are allowed to vote do make laws concerning those who are under 18. Is this fair?

What's everyone think?

maybe sixteen.. but uh it's still low I think.

At 7/4/04 03:09 AM, Joseph_Anarchy wrote: UMMMM why i dont wana VOTE i VOTE to NOT LOWER THE VOTING AGE LOL JK

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/rules.html
We will ban anybody attempting to circumvent any rule in a way that they obviously feel is remarkably clever and witty.
psst, Joseph the shit you're doing is posibly bannable

Anyways NoHit, how about posting some actual reasons on why you believe you should be able to vote, what all makes a minor equal to an adult?

What makes you think that that average 16 year old is mature enough to vote? You will always have some that are, I'm sure there are a few 5 year olds that are very capable of voting, but you can't change the rule just because there area few exceptional people.

At 7/4/04 03:10 AM, NoHitHair wrote:

At 7/4/04 12:01 AM, darkmage8 wrote: What you're telling me is that you want to leave that to sixteen year olds

Yup. That's exactly what I said. Apparently, I said that we should abolish all voting privileges of anyone over the age of 18 and ONLY allow those between 16-18 to vote. Thank you for clarifying what I said.

Oh, ok good. For a second there I thought you were blind enough to think that I was saying we should give all the power to that age group.

Oh wait....

i think the voting age should be lowered. Some people say that all people below 18 are idiots, and that it is stupid to give idiots votes, but we give idiots votes anyway, right?
Anyways, the reason a lot of 16 + 17 year olds dont know much about politics, is because they're not allowed to join in it. Give them a vote and a fair few would begin to fidn out about stuff, and thus give them more invaluable experience about the world.

P.S I hope people know what I'm talking about...

At 7/5/04 09:14 AM, TheOneBurgees wrote: Anyways, the reason a lot of 16 + 17 year olds dont know much about politics, is because they're not allowed to join in it. Give them a vote and a fair few would begin to fidn out about stuff,

I don't think that's the reason a lot of 16 and 17 y/o's don't know much about politics. You don't magically become interested at 18, because you can suddenly vote.

If the voting age was lowered to 16, do you think that the 16 and 17 yeaer olds would be willing to take on the rest of the resposibilities of being a full fledged adult? If not then they aren't ready to vote in my opinion.

But I don't think most 16 17 year olds are responsible enough or mature enough to make an informed decision on who they vote for.

Lower the voting age....hmmm......YES probably to 14 cuz kids already know some politics in elementry skool i was in an elementry school and we learned about politics so its better if its 14 or 15 kids already have the mind to vote and learn too so i think we should lower the voting age to 14 or 15 :)

At 7/5/04 12:47 PM, BaKsHi wrote: I believe people under the age of 18 should not vote because of this footage contained here. Right in this video is a normal mentally stable 14-16 year old using bad diplomacy to stop bullying by his peer. That's the kind of heroic standing up yourself that I appreciate.

Word. That kid needs puberty badly. If people are still doing stupid things like that, they shouldn't vote. They need time to mature.

At 7/5/04 12:47 PM, BaKsHi wrote: we have zero tolerance on Republican teachers. We send them to labor camps to make goods for Mother Massachusetts.

Sweet. Could of used that in HS myself..

At 7/5/04 11:50 PM, red_skunk wrote:

At 7/5/04 12:47 PM, BaKsHi wrote: we have zero tolerance on Republican teachers. We send them to labor camps to make goods for Mother Massachusetts.

Shweet.

Sweet. Could of used that in HS myself..

Yeah, I wanna go back to my High School and get my nazi "Dr. Timho" sent off. Would be fun to see.

No!
I think the people r not already mature to assume this responsability!

I believe that yes 16 and 17 yr olds should be able to vote. for the reason you gave on the first post.

No I don't think 16-17 year olds should be able to vote. I've been into politics since I was 10 and I could beat adults in debates. However, I had no one to relate to and barely do today. Everyone either didn't know anything about the subject or was a brainwashed knee-jerk libral. Some of you said there should be a test for maturity. The problem is there's no way to test maturity, because it is not linked to intelligence. Even though I'm completely capable of voting, a majority of my demographic isn't and I have accepted that.

I don't think 16-17 year olds should be allowed to vote..it just isn't a good idea *I'm 16 and alot of my friends are and I know they're NOT ready to vote!*

~18 is just fine with me.