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At 4/22/04 10:13 AM, D2KVirus wrote: So, the plot of Armageddon (?!?), and some misinformed non-knowledge are a reason to have nukes? Somebody call the CND, since they now have a goldmine to back them up, and he goes by the name of IceWraith15.

[applause]

Instead of just bitching out the US maybe you should organize a world effort to get rid of nukes. oh. wait. That means actually going outside and doing something. I'm sorry. Wouldn't want to make you do something like that...

At 4/20/04 11:15 PM, Cinghiale wrote:

At 4/20/04 08:07 PM, IceWraith15 wrote:

No...As sad as it was, if we hadn't dropped the nukes, then millions would have died invading Japan. Unless you were alive at the time, you can't complain about it because you didn't live through the decision making of it.

That's actually not true. Japan was looking for a way to surrender with dignity and America knew it, but we dropped the bombs anyway. I won't say why unless you really want to know =D

Then please explain to me why they didn't surrender when we offered them the chance before we dropped the bombs. We then offered again after the first bomb, and they didn't until after the second bomb. Also, I knew someone who survived Hiroshima, and he said that they were making the schoolchildren like him carve spears to stab the American soldiers once they invaded.

At 4/21/04 03:07 AM, bumcheekcity wrote:

At 4/20/04 07:59 PM, IceWraith15 wrote: About Nukes, their are actually SOME good reasons to have them.

1. For repelling meteors in case one come toward Earth,
2. Nuclear Power Plants

Are you being serious about reason 1? Oh, and nukes have NOTHING to do with Nuuclear power plants.

It's the same basic principle. I would know, a family member of mine works for a nuclear energy company.

At 4/21/04 03:58 PM, subpar wrote:
Okay... First of all, when I made that reference to Iraq, I was talking about the WMD that we STILL haven't found yet. I really believe there never were any. This war is Bullcrap.

Except for the liberation of Iraq and the capture of Saddam Hussein. And Saddam DID have WMD's, he used them against IRAN.

Also what is bullcrap is your reference to 9/11, because that had nothing to do with Nukes, it had nothing to do with Saddam Hussein, it had nothing to do with Iraq.

It had to do with your reference that the U.S believes all muslims are terrorists.

And finally, I'm not necessarily against America. I'm against nukes. China and Russia have nukes too, right?

That fails to explain why you attacked the U.S so much in your first post.

You are an ignorant fuck.

Oh really? I consider myself well-informed enough to know that your whole "no nukes" idea is an impossible dream.

At 4/22/04 07:24 PM, IceWraith15 wrote: It's the same basic principle. I would know, a family member of mine works for a nuclear energy company.

Nuclear this, Nuclear that, we get it.

But having we don't need to have nuclear missiles in order to have nuclear power plants.

End.

At 4/22/04 07:30 PM, IceWraith15 wrote: It had to do with your reference that the U.S believes all muslims are terrorists.

And Saddam Hussein is a Muslim. Iraq is Islamic. But I don't think Saddam ever crashed into the world trade center.

That fails to explain why you attacked the U.S so much in your first post.

The USA was my first example for everything because I live in the USA.

At 4/20/04 10:07 PM, Jimsween wrote: Cause rouge countries get nukes all the time without us having a chance to stop them beforehand. And if we don't have nukes, it makes us thier bitches.

Thats a good point, but why isn't anyone listening to you?

At 4/22/04 08:12 PM, Jimsween wrote:

At 4/20/04 10:07 PM, Jimsween wrote: Cause rouge countries get nukes all the time without us having a chance to stop them beforehand. And if we don't have nukes, it makes us thier bitches.

Thats a good point, but why isn't anyone listening to you?

obviously because you're just trying to brainwash them with your illogical right wing propaganda. obviously if nobody had nukes then we would have world peace, and all violence in all forms would stop completely and we could live in a perfect liberal/anarchist society

sorry i can't continue, i'm laughing too hard.

At 4/22/04 07:30 PM, IceWraith15 wrote: And Saddam DID have WMD's, he used them against IRAN.

That was in the 80's, remember?

Its subjects like this that a quote comes to mind, "I know not how world war three will be fought, but what i do know, is that world war four will be fought with sticks and stones."

Deep Thoughts.

Well said.... well said...

At 4/22/04 05:15 PM, JDubbMonkey wrote: Instead of just bitching out the US maybe you should organize a world effort to get rid of nukes. oh. wait. That means actually going outside and doing something. I'm sorry. Wouldn't want to make you do something like that...

And, of course, the obvious assumption is that NONE of us have, and all we want to do is bitch about the US due to it being some kind of national past time (and, frankly, more interesting than baseball).

Rational American Thinking - it strikes more times than Jason Voorhees...

i noticed in the first post you said " we shouldnt fire a nuke back"
lol thats fucking retarded.. i mean. ok.. 100,000 people die when we get hit and were just supposed to sit there?

At 4/23/04 12:19 PM, xXShadsXx wrote: i noticed in the first post you said " we shouldnt fire a nuke back"
lol thats fucking retarded.. i mean. ok.. 100,000 people die when we get hit and were just supposed to sit there?

Yeah - the idea is that they're a deterrant, so therefore they won't have the balls to do it again.

Anyone else get the mental image of Bush stood in the smouldering remains of Washington, shouting "Come back here and finish what you started!!!"