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At 3/29/11 06:56 PM, quagmire690 wrote: all that we as atheists want to really do is harsh on you for doing something that we don't agree with

so basically do the same thing that you despise?

that's super cool dude

At 3/29/11 06:56 PM, quagmire690 wrote: for the vast majority we don't want to convert you or make you stop something, all that we as atheists want to really do is harsh on you for doing something that we don't agree with, in basic we are haters, and hatters gonna hate...
if it were up to me i would highly suggest that you learn both sides throughly, and then progress forward from there and be able to with confidence say that this is what you chose, and for it, making you a far stronger, both physically and mentally person :)

I can't stand tolerant pussies. Tell the fucking morons they're wrong, it's not like this is some unimportant bullshit. This bullshit is responsible for millions of unjustifiable murders and billions brainwashed. Nice job taking the high road as innocents are killed for Gods that don't exist, cunt.

At 3/29/11 07:00 PM, 1916 wrote: I can't stand tolerant pussies. Tell the fucking morons they're wrong, it's not like this is some unimportant bullshit. This bullshit is responsible for millions of unjustifiable murders and billions brainwashed. Nice job taking the high road as innocents are killed for Gods that don't exist, cunt.

As the right wing always try to say, fuck political correctness. But heavens forbid you apply that to them

At 3/29/11 05:58 PM, Hoeloe wrote:

At 3/29/11 05:35 PM, ChaDMcBaDD wrote: Stuff

Okay, I know I said I was done with this topic, but I can't help posting this.

TheSporkLord is right.

Just because the majority of people believe something does not make it "true".

Morality is particularly susceptible to this.

If, for example, in a culture of some country that has been far removed from the modern world holds a yearly ritual in which they sacrifice one of their own to some god, would that be wrong?

If we tried to do that in our society, yes, it would.

In their society, no, it is a perfectly moral and normal thing to do. Do you have any right to tell them they are wrong if it is a deeply held belief they have, simply because you believe yourself to be from a "better" society?

No. Don't argue with this. You don't. Everyone has their own beliefs and culture.

first off, your example is useless as it deals sacrifices to a god. we all know that is the most retarded shit a religion could make you do, besides start wars.

2nd off, im stating that the preservation of life and logic/science should dictate us. nothing else. because the scienctific method has given us the world we live in today with incredible technology nobody had even 500 years ago.

if you honestly think thats a bad viewpoint, then be sure to remain ignorant your whole life and just be a nihilist.

lol imagine if everybody just gave up like you people are suggesting...you people have to be fucking retarded.

At 3/29/11 07:23 PM, ChaDMcBaDD wrote: first off, your example is useless as it deals sacrifices to a god. we all know that is the most retarded shit a religion could make you do, besides start wars.

I disagree. It's number three. Number 1 is having billions of people live in fear throughout eternity.

2nd off, im stating that the preservation of life and logic/science should dictate us. nothing else. because the scienctific method has given us the world we live in today with incredible technology nobody had even 500 years ago.

I say fuck it all. Give in to hedonistic desires. Why preserve our life if we're having no fun?

if you honestly think thats a bad viewpoint, then be sure to remain ignorant your whole life and just be a nihilist.

I'm not a nihilist. I believe that we, human beings, are the true gods.

lol imagine if everybody just gave up like you people are suggesting...you people have to be fucking retarded.

Don't give up, give in.

At 3/29/11 07:40 PM, RacistBassist wrote: I disagree. It's number three. Number 1 is having billions of people live in fear throughout eternity.

good point

I say fuck it all. Give in to hedonistic desires. Why preserve our life if we're having no fun?

sounds good to me. Lets get a resourced based economy going where nobody has to worry about anything and we just do drugs and have sex all day. sounds fucking amazing.

I'm not a nihilist. I believe that we, human beings, are the true gods.

we are very far from a 'god'. we just made it off the planet for the first time like 60 years ago lol.

Don't give up, give in.

not sure what u mean.

At 3/29/11 07:46 PM, ChaDMcBaDD wrote:

At 3/29/11 07:40 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Don't give up, give in.

not sure what u mean.

He means don't stop believin', become your beliefs. Don't stop believing in God, become God.

At 3/29/11 07:46 PM, ChaDMcBaDD wrote: we are very far from a 'god'. we just made it off the planet for the first time like 60 years ago lol.

To our knowledge we are the most powerful entity this universe has ever seen. True, there could be others, but fuck them, we haven't came across them yet.

not sure what u mean.

Give in to your inner desires.

At 3/25/11 05:18 PM, TheSporkLord wrote:

Putting complete trust in something that has no proof because some people wrote a book 2000 years ago with crazy stories in it instead of believing in science WHICH HAS GIVEN US ALL TECHNOLOGY WE CURRENTLY HAVE TODAY...

Do you think we were born into this world with knowledge? Every theory and fact and truth we have today isn't even " true ". Every idea we have today originated in our minds. Thus god is just as " logical " as science.

Nice attempt at trying to sound all deep and smart but thats just the most retarded reasoning ever. Even if we have an idea, we dont control if it is fact or not. You see a rock falling, its falling because of gravity, not because we think its falling.

At 3/29/11 07:48 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Give in to your inner desires.

like masturbating and weed?

At 3/29/11 07:23 PM, ChaDMcBaDD wrote: first off, your example is useless as it deals sacrifices to a god. we all know that is the most retarded shit a religion could make you do, besides start wars.

I could give other examples. I chose that one because it gave a different culture's viewpoint. Stop being so narrow minded, please.

2nd off, im stating that the preservation of life and logic/science should dictate us. nothing else. because the scienctific method has given us the world we live in today with incredible technology nobody had even 500 years ago.

I'm not denying that. I personally do follow science and logic.

if you honestly think thats a bad viewpoint, then be sure to remain ignorant your whole life and just be a nihilist.

You're completely missing the point. No-one said your viewpoint on life is bad. All we are saying is that NOT EVERYONE SHARES IT. Just because something is right for you does not mean it is right for someone else.

lol imagine if everybody just gave up like you people are suggesting...you people have to be fucking retarded.

No-one suggested that. Again, we are only suggesting that morality is relative to your society and culture, whatever that may be. Who said anything about giving up?

And again, you are simply throwing insults around. Please try to reason an argument rather than just state that the other parties are retarded.

As long as people aren't killing each other over religion I don't care what they believe in.

At 3/30/11 03:35 AM, semeieseed wrote: As long as people aren't killing each other over religion I don't care what they believe in.

THIS.

Sadly, the above will never happen, because those who're (pun intended) bound to a religion has a mission to convert anyone, despise who does not belong with them and be a hypocrite. I haven't seen a religion that does not treat their leaders like a pseudo-god. Everyone is equal to eyes of God ( I believe that is the consensus of all religions of the world) so if that's the case, why is your leader richer and more important than you?

HUZZAH!

I don't believe in God because there's no scientific proof. Only the Bible.

I believe organized religion is not my thing, so I am a Universalist. However, if you feel strongly about your religion then you belong to that religion.

a man walks into a pre-school and stabs 3 children to death. one being 5 months, one being 6 months, and one being 8 months. now, was it the 3 children's time to go, i mean they lead a full life and all. (this happened recently)

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