Impeachable? meh, probably not.

[Korriken]

the article.

I know Obama can't go declaring war without congressional consent, but we never declared war on Libya. we just launched some missiles at it. I do remember Clinton firing missiles on Iraq, but I can't find any news articles on whether congress approved it or not.

before someone goes mouthing about as "damn republicans will stoop to any level to hurt Obama!"

Kucinich is a democrat.

[SolInvictus]

At 3/22/11 09:45 AM, Korriken wrote: before someone goes mouthing about as "damn republicans will stoop to any level to hurt Obama!"

Kucinich is a democrat.

damn stealth-republicans?

[Ericho]

I heard that Andrew Johnson was the first person who was impeached (although he was not removed from office). In the last 50 years, we've had Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush all had these. It seems like we're just getting worse with our Presidents, aren't we? I doubt he will be impeached, but it seems like he could be held guilty. I guess I can no longer say he never launched a war.

[Camarohusky]

At 3/22/11 11:45 AM, Ericho wrote: I heard that Andrew Johnson was the first person who was impeached (although he was not removed from office). In the last 50 years, we've had Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush all had these. It seems like we're just getting worse with our Presidents, aren't we? I doubt he will be impeached, but it seems like he could be held guilty. I guess I can no longer say he never launched a war.

Actually, neither Nixon or Bush were impeached.

Also, you'd be surprised how much latitude the Constitution gives the President under certain forms of interpretation. This interpretation while it may rest on one crutch too much is definitely a valid and cogent reading, even though most would say it goes against the spirit of the Constitution.

[Gunner-D]

My liberal rep MA-D Jim McGovern is stopping short of being a critic of Obama's actions, but was a firm critic against Afghanistan and Iraq, even though he believes in defeating Al Qaeda. Just trying to keep things together for the dems.

However, Sen. Scott Brown R-MA loves this move!

Impeachable, yes. It is illegal and unconstitutional. But it won't happen.

[aviewaskewed]

At 3/22/11 05:29 PM, Gunner-D wrote: Impeachable, yes. It is illegal and unconstitutional. But it won't happen.

I agree, because while you can say this, you'd need both houses of congress to be outraged for the majority vote and you won't get it. Especially if the campaign turns out successful. This is the sort of move Republicans love, and it puts Democrats in a sticky situation (even Kucinich looks hesitant to call for impeachment even though he's the one raising the issue). I just don't see it gaining any real momentum.

[Korriken]

At 3/22/11 06:05 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: I just don't see it gaining any real momentum.

me neither. it would alienate the black vote for democrats and republicans are probably not gonna touch this one would a 10 foot pole, so to speak.

and you KNOW if some white person tries to initiate a impeachment, he/she will QUICKLY become a "racist".

[Camarohusky]

At 3/22/11 10:36 PM, Korriken wrote: me neither. it would alienate the black vote for democrats and republicans are probably not gonna touch this one would a 10 foot pole, so to speak.

and you KNOW if some white person tries to initiate a impeachment, he/she will QUICKLY become a "racist".

Instead of this partisan dribble, perhaps it would set a precedent for when Republican Presidents attempt to do the same thing. The last thing either party needs is more obstruction from accros the aisle.

[WolvenBear]

At 3/22/11 09:45 AM, Korriken wrote: the article.

I know Obama can't go declaring war without congressional consent, but we never declared war on Libya. we just launched some missiles at it. I do remember Clinton firing missiles on Iraq, but I can't find any news articles on whether congress approved it or not.

Clinton, however, didn't need approval because Iraq was in violation of a treaty we had signed with them. He already had authorization.

No such treaty exists with Libya.

[Elfer]

Impeaching is different in practice than in theory. Pretty much anything is an impeachable offense if you have cooperation from the house of representatives, but good luck getting that.

[Ericho]

At 3/22/11 12:16 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Actually, neither Nixon or Bush were impeached.

I should have worded that before. What I meant was that there were people striving for them to be impeached like Obama is in this situation. Sorry for the confusion.

[Gunner-D]

I think the only way you could impeach him at this point is if you found out that he was investing in the company that produces Tomahawk missiles.

[Warforger]

Rofl I laughed a little then sighed since he doesn't seem to realize that the President can send a limited amount of military anywhere he wanted, but not enough to say launch a full scale war, maybe there's something I'm not getting though or some Cold-War legislation repealed that I don't know of. Not that it ever limited any president from going over the limit anyway, this is why it used to be called "Korean Conflict" and "The Vietnam Conflict" because Congress never officially declared war on those nations but the President was able to send a limited amount of forces, which he in the end went over but that was when ironically people supported it so didn't notice. This by no means goes against the Constitution and is not an impeachable offense since America hasn't declared war on Libya yet or as far as I know gone over the limit in terms of military stationed there.

[Camarohusky]

At 3/23/11 09:51 PM, Warforger wrote: This by no means goes against the Constitution and is not an impeachable offense since America hasn't declared war on Libya yet or as far as I know gone over the limit in terms of military stationed there.

Just as I said before, under many valid interpretations the President has some fairly broad power to engage in military actions without Congressional approval. However, out of respect and political life these tend to be small without some Congressional action.

[KemCab]

At 3/22/11 09:45 AM, Korriken wrote: I know Obama can't go declaring war without congressional consent, but we never declared war on Libya. we just launched some missiles at it.

As if launching missiles at the armed forces of a sovereign nation was not an act of war. But, no, it's not going to happen, because it's defined as a "military action that isn't war" or whatever moronic distinctions politicians make between the two.

Also, if you want to some amusement, skip to the bottom of the CNN article and read some of the comments left there by liberal tools.

At 3/22/11 10:36 PM, Korriken wrote: and you KNOW if some white person tries to initiate a impeachment, he/she will QUICKLY become a "racist".

Kucinich didn't even SAY that he thinks the president should be impeached, but amusingly enough one of the comments left by the subhumans there pre-emptively accuses him of racism: "This is pathetic. Who elects these ignorant racist fools????"