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At 3/6/11 08:47 PM, GruntWorthy wrote: There is absolutely no need for this... We have not proceeded with signing ANYTHING with Cetacea, and frankly we're interested in signing tracks from the artists WHO ACTUALLY MADE THEM. THAT MEANS SOME OF YOU!
I'm interested, as long as y'all are legit. I've checked out y'all's site; how big are you, exactly, out of curiosity?
Nothing More rulez d00d!
At 3/6/11 11:07 PM, jarrydn wrote: Fair play. Signs definitely do point towards her being fabricated.
I guess the best way to confirm it, would be to see if her picture can be tied to an actual DJ.
Kazmo mentioned earlier that the pictures of her DJing on Don't Stay In are of a DJ named Zwezda and that these pictures don't match her main profile picture on Soundcloud. In my opinion looking at Mark-er's Tiny Eye search of the main Soundcloud profile picture, it looks like it's generally used as a generic stock image.
At 3/6/11 10:05 PM, TheTriangle wrote: This is pathetic. I think newgrounds should disable downloads. Seems like the only legitimate solution.
That's not going to work anyways. Your client browser saves the file in your cache before you can even view or hear it anyways. So it's already downloaded regardless of whether you click that "download" button or not.
Browsers like Firefox take advantage of this and offer you the option of saving ANYTHING you view or listen to on the web onto your drive.
At 3/6/11 11:27 PM, Ekojo wrote: I just wanted to say that you won't get kicked out of NG for voicing your opinion or theory. Come on, do we seem that uptight ;) Although I do have to disagree with you. It seems a bit too elaborate when somebody could just do some self promotion.
No, no one seems too uptight with me yet. I would just advise everyone whose music has been poached to error on the side of caution. As I read her bio, and associated internet content, I couln't help but notice more and more glaring spelling errors and inconsistencies in grammar/sentence structure. Damn she's hot, though. Never underestimate the power of denial! Anyone who has a Phd would know how to spell the word 'etherial.' (In a post she put on my page that I already deleted).
I am a third party as many people who've posted in this thread are. This involves me only in the respect that this person commented on my tracks and made me feel stoked. Whatever good I felt swung pendulously the other way when I learned of this. I do think this is significant in that it is a very real example of something that concerns all artists. Something like this is intellectual thievery in its worst form, potentially. Even worse than iTunes. LOL So I am a very strong advocate for the supporting of whistleblowers. Thank you to whomever first noticed this.
HOWEVER, things like threats and incoherent rants are very childish, even if you're a child! The fact is that this person could have very serious psychological problems. He or she has obviously devoted a considerable amount of time and resources into decieving people. Perhaps she would make a good politician. As has been stated already in this thread; if there's a legal issue, leave that to the parties invlolved. Otherwise, maybe we should all move on from this and start writing new tracks again! I know I will.
For anyone who keeps insisting we should disable downloads, several of the songs that DJ-Immune stole off myownmusic.de had their downloads disabled and it didn't do jack shit.
At 3/7/11 12:04 AM, Blackhole12 wrote: For anyone who keeps insisting we should disable downloads, several of the songs that DJ-Immune stole off myownmusic.de had their downloads disabled and it didn't do jack shit.
well yeah plenty of people can record music internally, so they can bypass the whole downloading thing, if it were implemented
Oh, wow. No talent at all. The fact she has actually gained anything from this is just pathetic, the fans are probably just people that don't even know about newgrounds.
But yea, should defiantly get into suing this bitch if she's making any profits.
May I add; YOU AIN'T XKORE, BABY.
just went to her profile again, noticed that her facebook link is gone along with (obviously) the gruntworthy link, things are lookin good guys
At 3/6/11 11:28 PM, mr-jazzman wrote: I'm interested, as long as y'all are legit. I've checked out y'all's site; how big are you, exactly, out of curiosity?
We've been a functioning label since November 2010 and been promoting events in the San Francisco Bay Area since june 2010. We run a monthly now at 1015 Folsom in SF called GruntWorthy Wednesdays, which primarily showcases our label producers. We've also thrown large indoor/outdoor bass music events like Headband, and River Of Bass which had 48 DJs on 2 stages over 24 hours with PropaTingz, NastyNasty, Stephan Jacobs, Sugarpill, Djunya, Minnesota, SkullTrane and a lot more.
We're oriented around "Future Bass" music, which is basically high quality original melodic heavy bass music from across the BPM range.
We've had 3 releases so far on beatport, starting with GruntWorthy Vol. 1 which featured "Blind Dreams" from Stephan Jacobs & +verb (which held the number one position on soundcloud). Right now, we are getting ready for another wave of releases which will be targeted as either BeatPort or Addictech exclusive releases (depending on artist and style) which will be out by this June.
You can check out our soundcloud to see our catalog.
Honestly we somehow had not heard of NG til whole thing happened, so thank you all for alerting us.
We are seriously interested in many artists from this site, so if any of you are serious about releasing music with us, contact us at email@example.com and we will be happy to give you more information.
On her profile it claims that she is from New Orleans. Well i'am from NO and I have a cousin who is extremely into the game of underground music and has actually played live at many concerts and knows just about everyone and the areas in the underground music mix.
If she had played anywhere around here especially in other countries, surely a local place has heard of her. Does anyone need me to go out of my way and clarify any of supposive "live concerts" or just a profile of her for clarification that she indeed does not exist? The only reason i'm asking is because if she has done a concert locally by some rare phenomenon of her actually existing, she might have profitted from it and that would just be plain wrong.
Although the New Orleans and Mississippi discription could be total bullshit. I will go out of my way to help you guys out anyway I can if need be. Despite this faulty information, my cousin does know many underground musicians from all over the United States and many other countries, so he may have heard or may be able to contact someone who might know.
Just let me know if this is needed information.
At 3/7/11 12:23 AM, joethesouleater wrote: just went to her profile again, noticed that her facebook link is gone along with (obviously) the gruntworthy link, things are lookin good guys
She is certainly playing hard to break... She's just taking off links one at a time, hoping that no one will notice. If only you could put comments on a profile, not just on individual songs.
bork bork bork
At 3/6/11 08:47 PM, GruntWorthy wrote: One thing is for sure, she has gotten all the stolen artists far more exposure than anyone of them had before.
exposure means nothing when you don't know who made the original...lets say she uploaded a song i made and changed the title. the one i have gets 2,000 views and the one she uploaded gets 10,000 views in 1 week. more people like what she uploaded but nobody knows its from me
1 month later mine is at 3,000 views and hers is at 50,000 views, what good does her posting do me? none, by changing the name shes taking away views from the original artist
That's why you do what you can to redirect the listeners to your music. Hence why everyone here is trying to do just that for xKore, mr-jazzman and the others affected by this on her tracks. If/when the listeners find the comment they will probably look at the original track to clarify if it's really the original artist, thus generating publicity.
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At 3/7/11 01:48 AM, Gario wrote: That's why you do what you can to redirect the listeners to your music. Hence why everyone here is trying to do just that for xKore, mr-jazzman and the others affected by this on her tracks. If/when the listeners find the comment they will probably look at the original track to clarify if it's really the original artist, thus generating publicity.
Case in point, I registered just to post this:
I was a fan of "hers" for a while now on Soundcloud, and have posted quite a few comments on her tracks. I did notice that a lot of her stuff sounded different, but it didn't really occur to me until the Room Dubstep track was uploaded what was going on.
Here's what I mean -- I've been DJing for almost seven years and 95% of the time, the first thing I notice about a track is the key that it is in.
Something I've learned over time is that a lot of Dubstep/Liquid D&B Producers tend to work in the same key with the exception of few (Spor comes to mind). So, when I realized the drastic difference in that track, I went back and started looking through her stuff. All of "her" tracks were in different keys. The BPMs were also erratic, and "her" stylistic approach to every track was polarized. That was a warning flag that I blissfully ignored for some reason.
So, at any rate, I posted something on Facebook and was almost immediately linked here, and then I figured out what happened. It turns out that a lot of my fellow DJs/promoters were fans of "hers," and have since been directed here. xKore, your name has been brought up a lot in particular. This thread is being tossed around everywhere.
You're getting your publicity. Give SC some time to get the stuff from that account down, and let the dust settle. Your publicity is coming. Personally, I really hope that some of you guys get your stuff signed and released, because I'd kill to be able to buy some of these tracks in full 320 to use my mixes. You guys have got a great ear for sound, and it would make a lot of us DJs happy if you got the benefit from it.
Sorry for the double post, but I couldn't find the edit button, heh.
To clarify: While downloading Play Mes/Free Promos/Bootlegs is nice and all that, those of us who respect our hobby/job will always, ALWAYS pay back for whatever it is we take. While it would be simple for me or anyone else to just cruise through to the audio portal and download whatever we want, I think you'd be surprised how many people would be willing to pay you for your tracks.
At least, that's where I know me & my crews stand. :)
There could more like Her. Posting stuffs she didn't own. Is there anyway we can prevent something like this to happen?
You see this case is analogical to seeing a rat, when you see one it means there are thousands of them!
At 3/7/11 02:22 AM, masheenH3ad wrote: There could more like Her. Posting stuffs she didn't own. Is there anyway we can prevent something like this to happen?
You see this case is analogical to seeing a rat, when you see one it means there are thousands of them!
It's about as easy to stop as plagiarism... Considering it's the same thing.
You can't control free will and some people just feel the need to do stuff like this. The only thing that can be done is finding the people that do do it, and having them face the consequences.
I mean death of course.
At 3/27/11 10:22 PM, sugarsimon wrote:
the brilliant songs who create a production for music
ITT: Dipstick steals various artist's music claiming it to be their own. Fraud gets found out, original NG artists are seriously considered for getting signed to labels.
Yup. I'd say this is pretty win here for NG.
Just a note to guys and gruntworthy: If you are talking about yourselves and if you are interested, please use the PM system. That is what it's made for.
Here is more profile pages of her:
I'm offline now. Chat with others that hate Cetacea Here! Leave me a comment in my profile if you want to chat with me!
At 3/7/11 10:39 AM, Hex-a-is-gone wrote: Here is her own site. (Just a picture!)
Just a picture. And a very poorly photoshopped picture, at that!
Just when I was about to post a new comment on another track, I couldn't. When I refreshed the page, "she" didn't had that track anymore, in fact SHE HAVE NO MORE TRACKS !!!!!
Newgrounds victory !!!!
Congrats everyone involved.
she made everything private now that fucking bitch
At 3/7/11 11:16 AM, 2dpolygon wrote: How do we report her website if she uploads our music there?
Do we have to find the webhost first or something? (Probably a noob question)
you can go the fbi website but if you want and click report website
At 3/7/11 01:30 PM, 2dpolygon wrote: YES! YES! YEEEEEESH!
WE HAVE WON.
yes we have won but there is still other people stealing like this one kid that was stealing from newgrounds audio portal untill he was caught