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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 5th, 2011 @ 09:30 PM Reply

Um, guys

From SoundCloud's terms of use

USER must not upload, display, send, transmit or otherwise make available any Content in which USER does not have the appropriate rights to do so. Unauthorized copying, distribution, modification, display, public performance or other unauthorized use of copyrighted works by USER may constitute an infringement of the copyright holders' rights and may result in civil litigation and criminal prosecution.

She's violated the site's terms of use. That's all that really matters.

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 5th, 2011 @ 09:42 PM Reply

Dear NewGrounds Members,
First off let say NO TRACKS WILL BE RELEASED FROM CETACEA UNTILL THIS MATTER HAS BEEN FULLY RESOLVED!

GRUNTWORTHY DOES NOT SUPPORT ARTISTS WHO STEAL WORKS FROM OTHER ARTISTS!

At this point, what we need from the NewGrounds members that feel their works have stolen, is to send us a list of the tracks you believe are stolen. Please include details of when the tracks were created, legal names of the producer(s) who created them, the methods used to make the tracks (ablton, logic, korg electribe, etc) and if possible screenshot of the project.

Please include your contact information (email, phone number etc).

Send the completed lists to label (at) GruntWorthy (dot) com

WE ARE TAKING THIS VERY SERIOUSLY!!
We would also ask you not post about this on any public GruntWorthy profiles as we are investigating ALL of these claims.
Thank you,
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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 5th, 2011 @ 09:48 PM Reply

At 3/5/11 09:42 PM, GruntWorthy wrote: At this point, what we need from the NewGrounds members that feel their works have stolen, is to send us a list of the tracks you believe are stolen.

I'm glad you guys have noticed all this. I sent this email to your info email address on the Gruntworthy homepage - the artists who made the tracks, you can use the list here to help yourself in Gruntworthy's requests for more info.

" Congratulations, GruntWorthy, on signing an unaccountable thief named "Cetacea".

So far, this "artist" has been confirmed to have stolen the following songs.
On the left is the DJ Cetacea title as found on her Soundcloud page, and the right is the original and the artist who made it.

"The Land of Eden" - xKore : "Eden"
"Magnum" - xKore : Magnum"
"Overload" - xKore : "Magnum (ExPrev)"
"Video Mode" - xKore : "Beast Mode"
"Dreaming" - xKore: "Syntax"
"The Room" - DJ Bjra : "The Room Dubstep"
"Iron God" - Jonathan Doemel (mr-jazzman) : "Iron God: Sakupen Hell Yes RMX"

- You can find all of Cetacea's uploads of these tracks at http://soundcloud.com/cetacea with the changed, new names.
- You can find the aforementioned xKore tracks at http://xkore.newgrounds.com/audio/ for proof that he is the original artist.
- You can find DJ Bjra's "The Room Dubstep" at http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/3 82686 for proof that he is the original artist.
- You can find Jonathan Doemel's "Iron God" at http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/3 60804 for proof that he is the original artist.

For both artists, simply compare the track upload dates to DJ Cetacea's on her soundcloud page. In all cases, they are uploaded before Cetacea's.

This is not simply a mistake she made, nor is it done with permission - based on the comments sections of her stolen tracks, she is claiming that she made the tracks, describing the process of making the track to her fans ("I ran through a voice snyth to make it sound robotic.") or saying other lines ("i dont make girly sounding dubstep," and "Thanks! I usually use alot of samples.but kept this one mostly just beats/bass/synth..")

It is then obvious she makes no effort to recognize the original creator and is actively seeking to take credit for work that is not hers in ANY capacity. If she indeed did make the tracks, ask her for project files to the listed tracks or alternate mixes with your specifications. She will not be able to provide them.

This was all discussed by some of the original artists on the Newgrounds Audio Forum, at http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1234 907 .

It is possible that she has indeed stolen MORE music from more artists than we know of so far, so please rethink your decision to sign Cetacea to your label and give her any support. She is a threat to music and TRUE artistry, and should not have a place as a marketed musician. Additionally, the moment she begins to profit from the music is the moment legal action can go up against her, which would also be legal action against your company. Take caution, and thank you for reading.

(This message has also been emailed to your label.)

- Nick Perrin, a Newgrounds Audio artist "

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 5th, 2011 @ 10:06 PM Reply

I steal music too.

Too bad I'm deaf.


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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 5th, 2011 @ 10:09 PM Reply

At 3/5/11 09:42 PM, GruntWorthy wrote: Thank you,
GruntWorthy

Thank YOU for the prompt response. Go communications technology, go go NG community.


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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 5th, 2011 @ 10:37 PM Reply

It's not over yet. Though she may be cut from the label, she still has all these stolen songs uploaded on SoundCloud and possibly other places as well. Hopefully the SC admin will be able to remove the songs and possibly the account, but as you can all see she still has a large following and a number of different accounts on various websites.

PURGE THEM ALL. NO MERCY.

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 5th, 2011 @ 11:01 PM Reply

Meh, in the end it doesn't really matter. She can't really profit directly off of any of this. If she releases something that is not her own, that's it, it's illegal and she will get fucked over.

As for her twatter following...meh. What good is any of that if you can't actually write a tune yourself?

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 5th, 2011 @ 11:04 PM Reply

At 3/5/11 09:42 PM, GruntWorthy wrote: Thank you,
GruntWorthy

Glad to see GruntWorthy took notice! I think the sound cloud issue will get noticed as well given enough time. Gotta love the community!


Always links to my most recent track :D

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 5th, 2011 @ 11:08 PM Reply

At 3/5/11 11:01 PM, jarrydn wrote: Meh, in the end it doesn't really matter. She can't really profit directly off of any of this. If she releases something that is not her own, that's it, it's illegal and she will get fucked over.

As for her twatter following...meh. What good is any of that if you can't actually write a tune yourself?

True, but it would be good to see the original artists get some recognition for their own work.


bork bork bork

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 5th, 2011 @ 11:11 PM Reply

Go community!

Someone needs a slap in the ol' 31 year old ass by the door on the way out.

Honestly, there's much better ways to make your own unique sounds, and songs.
Its called practice, and determination.


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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 5th, 2011 @ 11:17 PM Reply

At 3/5/11 11:11 PM, DjCryogenetic wrote: Go community!

Someone needs a slap in the ol' 31 year old ass by the door on the way out.

Honestly, there's much better ways to make your own unique sounds, and songs.
Its called practice, and determination.

But what else is a talentless 30-something gonna do but steal and claim it as their own?

Bitch and whine about it? OH WOW.

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 12:27 AM Reply

I made a SoundCloud account and reported the 6-7 songs that have been mentioned thus far.

If anyone knows of any other works she has stolen, I'll report them too as soon as they're mentioned.

On a brighter note, at least her followers love the stolen music.


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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 12:47 AM Reply

I forgot to say that as well, congrats guys on unintentionally gaining hundreds of more fans. At least once they know who actually wrote the songs they enjoyed.


The Main Thing is to keep the Main, Thing the Main Thing.
Latest Song: Retraktion [House/Electro] / Latest Mix: Voltaicly Uncondensed

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 01:43 AM Reply

http://soundcloud.com/cetacea/quantum-cr uise

  • HW - Quantum Cruise
    HW - Quantum Cruise by haywirehaywire

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    4.37 / 5.00
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    Dubstep
    Popularity
    886 Views

Am I the only person who is sticking up for haywyre now?

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 01:52 AM Reply

At 3/6/11 01:43 AM, DLBeezy wrote: http://soundcloud.com/cetacea/quantum-cr uise
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/3 93441
Am I the only person who is sticking up for haywyre now?

no need to be smug... nobody had identified it yet.. thank you for identifying that track.

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 01:53 AM Reply

At 3/6/11 01:52 AM, SymbolCymbal wrote:
At 3/6/11 01:43 AM, DLBeezy wrote: http://soundcloud.com/cetacea/quantum-cr uise
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/3 93441
Am I the only person who is sticking up for haywyre now?
no need to be smug... nobody had identified it yet.. thank you for identifying that track.

  • [EPHYKS]-I'm to smug for this
    [EPHYKS]-I'm to smug for this by DLBeezy

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 01:56 AM Reply

I'm not sure how I knew it would be, there but it was.

http://soundcloud.com/cetacea/mother-f-c ker-dubstep-original-track

  • Mother F*cker (Dubstep)
    Mother F*cker (Dubstep) by Blizzaine

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 02:02 AM Reply

What I wanna know is, how they fuck did she get so many followers, and even play live, and nobody knew she stole music? Like, honestly? You can connect the fucking dots knowing every other song has a different style. God, ignorant fags. This is why we can't have nice things. *-cough cough- record label that signed her and didn't know she has been ripping music off the internet and claiming it as her own and has logic of that of a fucking rock -cough cough-*

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 02:10 AM Reply

Yeah. I mean, look at her twitter feed. Apparently she has a deal with beatport and all of your songs are going up on beatport under her name and she is reaping the benefits. I don't know why but this truly makes me angry. I am rage quiting by just looking at her pictures. Really, is standing at a turntable looking like she is mixing stuff. Oh, and here she is LIVE, IN FRONT OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. FFFUUUUUUUUU-

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 02:16 AM Reply

Sorry to over post but here's another couple.

http://soundcloud.com/cetacea/endless-sp ace-original-dnb-track

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http://soundcloud.com/cetacea/craving-or iginal-dnb-track

  • Kravening - Vaag (preview)
    Kravening - Vaag (preview) by kravening

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    151 Views

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http://soundcloud.com/cetacea/flute-of-d oom-original-dnb-track

  • [Janiev] - Flute of Doom
    [Janiev] - Flute of Doom by janiev

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    4.41 / 5.00
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    602 Views


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Latest Song: Retraktion [House/Electro] / Latest Mix: Voltaicly Uncondensed

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 02:20 AM Reply

Can't really blame anyone for hiring her; if I didn't assume she stole other people's work, I'd think:

"oh shit..she's talented AND prolific".

So she's 9 for 64 in confirmed stolen music thus far, batting a disrespectful .140.

Hopefully everyone gets proper attribution.


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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 02:25 AM Reply

12 for 64

Obviously spoke too soon ^^


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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 02:34 AM Reply

Someone should PM all the prominent dubstep, drum n bass and ambient musicians on NG. I think they should know what's going down right now.

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 02:41 AM Reply

At 3/5/11 10:09 PM, Zerok wrote:
At 3/5/11 09:42 PM, GruntWorthy wrote: Thank you,
GruntWorthy

It was about time someone took matters into his own hands, all the PMs and e-mails are definitely appreciated by artists with their music stolen.
The only thing that really kinda boggles me is, Why would she steal someone else's music, knowing it's gooing to get her in trouble.

She's obviously not a NG anyway.
I'm just sayin'
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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 03:02 AM Reply

It looks like she's being hired to do the soundtrack/score for something called the Kentucky Horror Show.

[And I Quoth]@DJanime_93 Tweet @kentuckyhorror, Congrats on getting DJCetacea to do movie soundtrack! Retweet
2:39 PM Oct 21st, 2010 via web in reply to DJanime_93

Everyone send @kentuckyhorror a tweet saying WAY TO GO for getting @DJCetacea to do soundtrack for movie! I will instantly follow u!
http://twitter.com/DJplur[/end quoth]

(sorry about the caps, but that's how she wrote it)CETACEA WILL BE MAKING THE SOUNDTRACK/FILM SCORE FOR THE FILM 'THE KENTUCKY HORROR SHOW' FOR MORE INFORMATION AND TO JOIN KENTUCKY HORROR ON FACEBOOK GO TO http://tiny.cc/kentuckyhorror
CETACEA on Uber VU

I tried to find out more about the Kentucky Horror Show so that artists can contact them in case they are actually hiring Cetacae to do the soundtrack, but the Kentucky Horror Show facebook, and twitter pages both seem to be down. Odd.

As far as the Root Music App on her facebook page, she has songs from not only xKore (as I mentioned earlier) but also songs from Blizzaine and Haywire as well. They're the same ones she has on the soundcloud website.

Again, Root Music's Copyright contact page:
http://www.rootmusic.com/copyrights

I hope this info helps the affected artists.

And finally for your entertainment, from her twitter:
We create nothing, express nothing; we only discover or uncover what is aleady there.
1:54 PM Oct 21st, 2010 via web
Retweeted by 3 people

http://twitter.com/DJCetacea/status/2805 1707266

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 03:08 AM Reply

Sorry to double post, but looking back I realize some things weren't clear in my post.
1) The paragraph in all caps is from here Uber VU page
2) the Kentucky Horror link and the Uber VU link are two separate links, even though it doesn't look like it from the way they follow each other.

That is all.

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 03:10 AM Reply

At 3/5/11 01:49 PM, SymbolCymbal wrote:
At 3/5/11 01:45 PM, SineRider wrote: also i'll just leave this here

Cetacea does not use computers to make her music. She claims anyone can make music with a computer,
I...JUST...SHIT....MY PANTS...LAUGHING........

I heard 'dat.


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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 03:25 AM Reply

Good job people, now all we need to do is get her off the sites she is using to promote her 'music'.


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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 04:12 AM Reply

She's probable just a 15 yeat old kid who doesn't understand anything about music and that posting tracks from another website is "stealing".

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Response to NG Music being stolen Mar. 6th, 2011 @ 04:56 AM Reply

One would think so, considering how outlandishly fake her bio sounds (started mixing when she was 9, has a PHD in marine mammology, and studied whales since she was 6.) but oddly enough she really does play events and DJs in clubs. Her Don't Stay In music profile has pictures of her in clubs at the turn table DJing. Plus on her twitter other DJs posted comments recalling recent club events they were at with her. It's just so strange that someone can get that deep into the DJ/Club scene by stealing other peoples' music. o.0