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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 15:15:22 Reply

At 3/9/11 03:13 PM, BumFodder wrote:
At 3/8/11 08:09 PM, DevilDog016 wrote: Burglars are pretty smart... Get a thicker window, they get a bigger rock. Get a better door, they get a bigger guy with a crowbar.... but they're usually good runners, too. But can they outrun a 9mm Parabellum round?

Conclusion: Get better doors, better windows, AND a gun.
No, theyll just go into another home and you wont need to shoot them.

Usually, they won't be shot. Saying that is just ignorant.

Over 90% of the time, an attacker/burglar isn't even shot.


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 15:56:31 Reply

At 3/8/11 08:09 PM, DevilDog016 wrote: True.

But with the average response rate of 20-30 minutes on most home security companies, I can easily smash your expensive windows, tie you down on a chair, steal almost all your valuable electronics, and still have time to make myself an espresso on your coffee machine.

The savvy burglars know which houses to avoid by the type of security they have. And who the fuck still gets in by smashing a window? If that was the case, the person was inexperienced or acting hastily which means you only need to get the drop on them, which is very easy to do and they will most likely attempt to flee at first sight.

If you have a handgun handy, I'll smash that window, get shot, and bleed on your expensive window frames. Then you only need to fix your windows, not re-purchase half your electronics.

What an ideal scenario. You can get your gun drawn and ready after you hear them smash the window and you can shoot them before they make it in.

Burglars are pretty smart... Get a thicker window, they get a bigger rock. Get a better door, they get a bigger guy with a crowbar.... but they're usually good runners, too. But can they outrun a 9mm Parabellum round?

Can you hit an actively moving target in the dark with shit in the way with a handgun while you just got up?

Conclusion: Get better doors, better windows, AND a gun.

Guns really don't do jack shit for B&Es unless under very ideal circumstances, the person is inexperienced or retarded, or they aren't there for shit to steal.

At 3/8/11 06:30 PM, IncendiaryProduction wrote:
At 3/8/11 06:28 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Is mixing in rural and urban areas in the same statistics any better?
Yes sir, I believe it is.

How so?


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 16:12:35 Reply

So guys what kind firearms can an englishman get at the age of 18(if possible).

I like guns anyway but a good reason to get one would be home defence, just need to know the safety precautions (ie, dont point the gun at your eye) and how to use a gun against a criminal either outside or inside my house.


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:04:25 Reply

At 3/9/11 03:56 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Guns really don't do jack shit for B&Es unless under very ideal circumstances, the person is inexperienced or retarded, or they aren't there for shit to steal.

B&E with gun: Burglar breaks in, I point gun at said burglar, burglar shits pants and runs home.

B&E without gun: Burglar breaks in, kicks my ass, takes my shit, and gets away clean.


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:06:06 Reply

At 3/9/11 03:15 PM, IncendiaryProduction wrote: Usually, they won't be shot. Saying that is just ignorant.

Over 90% of the time, an attacker/burglar isn't even shot.

I think you missed the part where the guy I quoted typed about shooting them.

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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:06:37 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:04 PM, Danavers wrote: B&E with gun: Burglar breaks in, I point gun at said burglar, burglar shits pants and runs home.

B&E without gun: Burglar breaks in, kicks my ass, takes my shit, and gets away clean.

You've never experienced a B&E or know people who do B&Es do you?

Most go like this: Burglar breaks in, sees home owner, gets the fuck out. Or like this: Burglar sneaks in, gets shit anyways.


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:08:09 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:06 PM, RacistBassist wrote:
Most go like this: Burglar breaks in, sees home owner, gets the fuck out. Or like this: Burglar sneaks in, gets shit anyways.

Can you play with the shit after he leaves? Or will he come back for the poo?


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:09:19 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:06 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Most go like this: Burglar breaks in, sees home owner, gets the fuck out.

Gets the fuck out with your shit he just put in his bag. If you had a gun you could tell him to drop it couldn't you?


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:11:33 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:09 PM, Danavers wrote:
At 3/9/11 05:06 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Most go like this: Burglar breaks in, sees home owner, gets the fuck out.
Gets the fuck out with your shit he just put in his bag. If you had a gun you could tell him to drop it couldn't you?

In my state I could put a bullet in his brain for trying to steal my shit. I agree with the law actually. I care about my things much more than I care about the life of a thief.


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:12:51 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:11 PM, Cootie wrote: In my state I could put a bullet in his brain for trying to steal my shit. I agree with the law actually. I care about my things much more than I care about the life of a thief.

And by killing the burglar you'd probably be saving many other peoples things too.


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:13:36 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:09 PM, Danavers wrote: Gets the fuck out with your shit he just put in his bag. If you had a gun you could tell him to drop it couldn't you?

God I love your ideal little fantasy. You have no clue about how people go about these things. They don't act like some cliche robber with a bag that magically fits all your shit into it that they drop at first sign of trouble. They don't notice the gun. The moment they see someone, they instantly go to flight mode. With your shit in it, whether you have a gun or not. The only time this doesn't apply is if they are carrying something heavy. Oh hey, your plasma TV just got smashed.


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:14:38 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:12 PM, Danavers wrote:
At 3/9/11 05:11 PM, Cootie wrote: In my state I could put a bullet in his brain for trying to steal my shit. I agree with the law actually. I care about my things much more than I care about the life of a thief.
And by killing the burglar you'd probably be saving many other peoples things too.

So, everybody wins in the end! Except for the burglar, but who gives a shit about him.


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:15:26 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:09 PM, Danavers wrote:
At 3/9/11 05:06 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Most go like this: Burglar breaks in, sees home owner, gets the fuck out.
Gets the fuck out with your shit he just put in his bag. If you had a gun you could tell him to drop it couldn't you?

You could with a baseball bat or other non-death dealing implement

Just sayin
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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:15:33 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:12 PM, Danavers wrote:
At 3/9/11 05:11 PM, Cootie wrote: In my state I could put a bullet in his brain for trying to steal my shit. I agree with the law actually. I care about my things much more than I care about the life of a thief.
And by killing the burglar you'd probably be saving many other peoples things too.

So what's the price of a human life? Most burglars do not want to hurt the home owners physically, as is evident by how they don't creep into your room and just kill you before stealing the shit.


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:18:37 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:15 PM, RacistBassist wrote:
At 3/9/11 05:12 PM, Danavers wrote:
So what's the price of a human life? Most burglars do not want to hurt the home owners physically, as is evident by how they don't creep into your room and just kill you before stealing the shit.

Ummm, the price of a human life? Can't put a tag on it. Now, the life of a burglar isn't even worth a penny to me. I don't give a damn if he wants to hurt me or not, I will not allow him to steal my shit. He can get a job and get his own goddamn HDTV.

I love the Castle Doctrine. And, I assure you I would nail the bastard.

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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:18:59 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:13 PM, RacistBassist wrote: They don't act like some cliche robber with a bag that magically fits all your shit into it that they drop at first sign of trouble.

So what do they put your stuff in?

They don't notice the gun.

So what are you threatening them with?

The moment they see someone, they instantly go to flight mode.

A big black guy probably wouldn't be too scared of 110 pound woman. In fact he'll probably rape the shit out of her before smashing her face in.


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:22:08 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:15 PM, snoopychicken wrote:
At 3/9/11 05:09 PM, Danavers wrote:
If you had a gun you could tell him to drop it couldn't you?

You could with a baseball bat or other non-death dealing implement
Just sayin

Yeah, good luck with that.

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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:24:32 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:18 PM, Danavers wrote: A big black guy probably wouldn't be too scared of 110 pound woman. In fact he'll probably rape the shit out of her before smashing her face in.

What have black people got to do with anything?

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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:24:52 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:18 PM, Danavers wrote: So what do they put your stuff in?

Usually a backpack that they wouldn't drop and would just take off with it. Well fuck, your stuffs gone either way. Have fun trying to explain in court why they have bullets in the back of them. Fun fact, castle doctrine does not protect you if they are shot in the back or outside your house.

So what are you threatening them with?

You generally don't need to. They take off running the moment they notice someone. This may shock you, but not every criminal is a cold blooded murder who will just blast you away at the first sight. That will only draw more attention to themselves which they do not want.

A big black guy probably wouldn't be too scared of 110 pound woman. In fact he'll probably rape the shit out of her before smashing her face in.

Oh right. I forgot every criminal ever is a large black male targeting small white women and they just so happen to be violent rapists. This black guy would still almost surely flee on sight of somebody realizing that he was compromised.

The only time B&Es generally turn sour is when the homeowner actively engages the person because then the person will fight back. Or they are robbing a drug house.


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:27:14 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:06 PM, BumFodder wrote:
At 3/9/11 03:15 PM, IncendiaryProduction wrote: Usually, they won't be shot. Saying that is just ignorant.

Over 90% of the time, an attacker/burglar isn't even shot.
I think you missed the part where the guy I quoted typed about shooting them.

I didn't realize that his words become truth when he types them.


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:28:20 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:27 PM, IncendiaryProduction wrote: I didn't realize that his words become truth when he types them.

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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:34:14 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:24 PM, RacistBassist wrote:
At 3/9/11 05:18 PM, Danavers wrote: So what do they put your stuff in?
Usually a backpack that they wouldn't drop and would just take off with it. Well fuck, your stuffs gone either way.

I doubt they'll make too many sudden moves when they're staring down my shotgun barrel. "Taking off" isn't as easy as you make it sound.

Have fun trying to explain in court why they have bullets in the back of them. Fun fact, castle doctrine does not protect you if they are shot in the back or outside your house.

I never said I'd shoot anyone in the back.

So what are you threatening them with?
You generally don't need to. They take off running the moment they notice someone.

Some might, some won't. You'll be fucked if they don't just "take off" and you don't have a gun in your hands.

The only time B&Es generally turn sour is when the homeowner actively engages the person because then the person will fight back. Or they are robbing a drug house.

Is that a fact?

At 3/9/11 05:24 PM, BumFodder wrote:
At 3/9/11 05:18 PM, Danavers wrote: A big black guy probably wouldn't be too scared of 110 pound woman. In fact he'll probably rape the shit out of her before smashing her face in.
What have black people got to do with anything?

Yeah, I regret saying that these forums. However, it isn't the skinny Jewish guys running around breaking into houses.

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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 17:51:08 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:34 PM, Schoobs wrote: I doubt they'll make too many sudden moves when they're staring down my shotgun barrel. "Taking off" isn't as easy as you make it sound.

The first thing they notice isn't the gun, it's the person, and then they take off. How hard is this concept to get for people to understand?

Hell, a dog barking from inside is probably one of the largest deterrents for burglars. Noise+animal=skipping the house.

I never said I'd shoot anyone in the back.

Well considering that the most likely scenario is them taking off then you wouldn't shoot them at all and your gun was ineffective.

Some might, some won't. You'll be fucked if they don't just "take off" and you don't have a gun in your hands.
Is that a fact?

Most people will instantly flee. How hard is this to grasp? If they were willing to kill a person and had the mentality to do it, you'd already be dead.

Yeah, I regret saying that these forums. However, it isn't the skinny Jewish guys running around breaking into houses.

Hahaha you do realize that the big black person could in fact be jewish? The people who do B&Es are mostly normal sized.


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 18:01:36 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:51 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Hahaha you do realize that the big black person could in fact be jewish? The people who do B&Es are mostly normal sized.

Yeah but you know with stereotypes and all.

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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 18:04:14 Reply

People from England aren't murderers, but they sure are pro's at stealing people's wallet.


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At 3/9/11 06:04 PM, NuclearWarFare wrote: People from England aren't murderers, but they sure are pro's at stealing people's wallet.

Really? We are? Wow! *goes out and steals someones wallet*

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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 18:06:47 Reply

At 3/9/11 05:51 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Most people will instantly flee. How hard is this to grasp? If they were willing to kill a person and had the mentality to do it, you'd already be dead.

Key word: most. What are you gonna do if they don't flee and you don't have a gun?

Hahaha you do realize that the big black person could in fact be jewish?

It's unlikely. Just like how it's unlikely you'll scare away a burglar with a lacrosse stick.


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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 18:24:36 Reply

At 3/9/11 06:06 PM, snoopychicken wrote:
At 3/9/11 06:04 PM, NuclearWarFare wrote: People from England aren't murderers, but they sure are pro's at stealing people's wallet.
Really? We are? Wow! *goes out and steals someones wallet*

Are you sure you still have yours?

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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 18:37:47 Reply

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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Response to The legality of guns. 2011-03-09 18:39:28 Reply

At 3/9/11 06:37 PM, ZeldaFan64DS wrote: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

-United States Bill of Rights

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

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