What would you do if your nation starts to become communist?
Lets just say that a leader runs for office (he is a member of the communist party) and hot diggity damn the guy happens to win and your country starts going Red. How do you react to this? Keep in mind that communism doesn't always mean totalitarianism.
I haul ass to Canada myself.
For I am and forever shall be... a master ruseman.
I'd join Viktor and his crew of Communists.
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All I know is that my friend Jonathan would be partying for weeks if that happened, he and his family have been red ever since he was born.
Start making jokes about soviet union.
At 2/16/11 09:51 PM, Dew wrote: People will never vote for something like that.
Mostly because our nation fears the polar's of the political spectrum.
Honestly? Probably start a violent opposition faction and fight for a independent sovereign nation, viva la revolution!
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At 2/16/11 09:51 PM, Dew wrote: People will never vote for something like that.
My class had a mock election, the guy who won was openly communist and voiced communist ideals.
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At 2/16/11 09:51 PM, Dew wrote: People will never vote for something like that.
Really a person's ideals means nothing. Their a ology as a public speaker and their charisma means lots more. A man with enough charisma can worm his way into any position no matter what his opinions are.
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I'd be okay with it.
I support communism.
I have a hard time believing that will ever happen.
I don't see anything wrong with it. Luckily in America we have a balance of powers.
We have hundreds of individually elected local representatives. We also have the supreme court, which would declare any of that leader's acts unconstitutional.
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I'd join you and hop the Canadian border.
At 2/16/11 09:56 PM, Dew wrote:At 2/16/11 09:53 PM, DjKaz wrote:Well what type of communism are we talking here? True communism is unlikely to be supported by anyone.At 2/16/11 09:51 PM, Dew wrote: People will never vote for something like that.My class had a mock election, the guy who won was openly communist and voiced communist ideals.
And that sir, is because true communsim is nearly impossible to create because us as humans, inherently want more money, or more prestige, etc etc. It was a weird blend of base communist ideas with some typical political bullshit thrown in to make it sound good
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At 2/16/11 10:02 PM, Dew wrote:ey, or more prestige, etc etc. It was a weird blend of base communist ideas with some typical political bullshit thrown in to make it sound goodMust have been a middle school or early year highschool class then. :/
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At 2/16/11 09:59 PM, IncendiaryProduction wrote: I don't see anything wrong with it. Luckily in America we have a balance of powers.
We have hundreds of individually elected local representatives. We also have the supreme court, which would declare any of that leader's acts unconstitutional.
We would just have to make sure that the new leader doesn't chang anything about our systems of checks and balances.
At 2/16/11 10:08 PM, DP36 wrote:At 2/16/11 09:59 PM, IncendiaryProduction wrote: I don't see anything wrong with it. Luckily in America we have a balance of powers.We would just have to make sure that the new leader doesn't chang anything about our systems of checks and balances.
We have hundreds of individually elected local representatives. We also have the supreme court, which would declare any of that leader's acts unconstitutional.
But he would have to add an new amendment to the constitution. And to do that, congress would have to vote on it.
Again, checks and balances save the day.
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But he would have to add an new amendment to the constitution. And to do that, congress would have to vote on it.
Again, checks and balances save the day.
Which is why I believe that this scenario of a communist leader could happen.
At 2/16/11 09:56 PM, Dew wrote: Well what type of communism are we talking here? True communism is unlikely to be supported by anyone.
Uh huh, explains the huge number of Communist revolutions...... Communism isn't inherently evil, it's also not inherently inefficient. The real problem that occurred was that most Communist nations were rural and were still feudalistic and developing, Karl Marx said that it had to go from Feudalism to Capitalism to Communism, as Capitalism is the ultimate state of class society as the Bourgeoisie compete to make the most money, even if it means that they have to take advantage of people to do it. Essentially Colonialism/Imperialism opened up new markets, with this the Bourgeoisie vastly expand in their wealth and they overthrow the Feudal lords and industrialize creating Capitalism, and now with Urbanization taking place there is a influx of new workers, these workers then have to compete with each other for unskilled work i.e. work that anyone can do, so they offer more hours and less wages thus it gets to the point that they work 12 hours a day to make say 5 cents. While this is happening the Bourgeois become more and more richer and interact more with foreign markets, causing them to become less in touch with the Proletariat (the worker) which is the ultimate state of Class Society.
This is why if you actually read Karl Marx's writings and his life you see why he had such a obsession with a revolution in Britain France and Germany not China or Russia, one time he did say he wanted one in Russia but he then predicted it would spread into Germany France and Britain.
Karl Marx was a very smart man don't think any less of him, he had a PhD in Greek Philosophers, he always got journalist jobs just by presenting himself to the newspapers, he fought Prussian censorship and openly criticized the government while urging revolution over and over.
At 2/16/11 10:01 PM, DjKaz wrote
And that sir, is because true communsim is nearly impossible to create because us as humans, inherently want more money, or more prestige, etc etc. It was a weird blend of base communist ideas with some typical political bullshit thrown in to make it sound good
No. The Communist nations were like this, there wasn't really much care about money as everyone was paid for same, people took jobs because it interested them or because it was their only option, essentially they were doing good, no one could compete with them for a job so they didn't have to work harder to keep their job, the problem was that the economy wasn't moving forward because since everyone was paid the same no one was motivated to work harder.
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At 2/16/11 10:23 PM, Warforger wrote:
No. The Communist nations were like this, there wasn't really much care about money as everyone was paid for same, people took jobs because it interested them or because it was their only option, essentially they were doing good, no one could compete with them for a job so they didn't have to work harder to keep their job, the problem was that the economy wasn't moving forward because since everyone was paid the same no one was motivated to work harder.
Your point makes more sense then mine, I give. But from my point view, in america (almost) everything is either money based, or prestige based. Now there are exceptions. But I digress.
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At 2/16/11 09:46 PM, The3DragonsGroup wrote: I'd join Viktor and his crew of Communists.
I'm already a communist, but that sounds like a good idea.
I'd try to join an effort to uncommunize America. If that fails, I'm moving to another country that has a free market.
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At 2/17/11 02:11 AM, Kev-o wrote: ITT: People who don't know what communism actually is.
ITT: People trying to have fun.
Also, I'm an independent communist, like a mercenary, you can hire me to start a revolution.
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While it's insanely unlikely to happen if it did I would try to adjust. If it doesn't work out then I would pursue other options like moving to another country.
At 2/17/11 02:36 AM, Falonefal wrote:At 2/17/11 02:11 AM, Kev-o wrote:ITT: People trying to have fun.
Also, I'm an independent communist, like a mercenary, you can hire me to start a revolution.
No... Just no.
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you talk a good one but u dont do what your supposed to do
At 2/17/11 02:45 AM, Kev-o wrote:At 2/17/11 02:36 AM, Falonefal wrote:No... Just no.At 2/17/11 02:11 AM, Kev-o wrote:ITT: People trying to have fun.
Also, I'm an independent communist, like a mercenary, you can hire me to start a revolution.
Stop being so ignorant, you're ignorant.
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