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At 4/25/04 12:13 PM, _Joe_ wrote:

Anyhoo...Vince I think I just saw yours (if CT : The escape is part of this duel) and I have to say, I loved it, and I fifened it for you..good luck to the both of you anyways..

See Lenin you made me miss this post! Anyway, thanks for the support, Joe!

In all honesty here. Between Shin n Vince's flash. It's anyones game, both seem good. :(

Ok, I've seen Vince's submission, but I can't find Shin's submission. Someone mind linking me? I'm not voting on Vince's until I see Shin's.

- Skye

At 4/25/04 07:24 PM, Skye-McCloud wrote: Ok, I've seen Vince's submission, but I can't find Shin's submission. Someone mind linking me? I'm not voting on Vince's until I see Shin's.

Here, in my opinion it pwns Vince's, but there is this little cult that thinks otherwise.

It's not a cult, it's a bunch of people that know a better flash when they see one.

At 4/26/04 02:17 PM, FFMaster03 wrote: It's not a cult, it's a bunch of people that know a better flash when they see one.

It's a bunch of brainless morons.
Dont argue with the master.

You mean brainless morons who know a good flash series?

At 4/26/04 02:42 PM, FFMaster03 wrote: You mean brainless morons who know a good flash series?

What did I say about argument?

At 4/26/04 02:42 PM, FFMaster03 wrote: You mean brainless morons who know a good flash series?

Don't try to argue with Lenin, it's like talking to a brick wall.

Yeh, I won't waste my time anymore. What the hell!? Only 10% complete? Oh. :'( Lol.

At 4/26/04 03:49 PM, FFMaster03 wrote: Yeh, I won't waste my time anymore. What the hell!? Only 10% complete? Oh. :'( Lol.

Yeah it might be done in a week or two. I'm trying to make it better than part 12 so I'm taking my time with the script. Oh and I see you are the user of the day today (congrats) and you got my movie as your favorite entry. Talk about a dedicated fan :)

At 4/26/04 03:30 PM, Vinstigator wrote:

Don't try to argue with Lenin, it's like talking to a brick wall.

True, I just have so much pwnage material to dig up on Vince...

Yeah it might be done in a week or two.

Yah...You spend so much time on these...

And by the way, I DO pwn you in flash Vince, but unlike you I am not a score whore. You have more awards, but if I churned out a load of text with some pretty pictures I could easily have them as well. Also note that you have made a lot more movies than me. Just compare the quality-there is no competition.

Ask anyone (who isn't one of your fanboys)
Me>you.

Hey you aren't the master no one is the master of no one. Especially me,the shadow of lenin.

At 4/26/04 05:19 PM, TheShadowOfLenin wrote: i molest lil boys the way i was molested when i was a choir boy

hey Lenin shut the fuck up
untill u can make flash movies that are superior to vins or anyone else besides a 8 year old giggling like a girl at stick people dancing and anime boobs showing up randomly
till u then

shut the fuck up

your talent? you have none
so shut the fuck up
you have no right to talk that u can do better
talk all u want

PROVE UR WORDS

you talk the talk but you dont walk the walk

Wow...I just stumble along a forum all about THE VINSIGATOR!
Your flash is awesome, and I saw shin's, but it isn't as good.

I finally got through both animations, and I put up my scores.

I'm no big fan of either of them, but I feel Vince had the better animation. What Shin lacked, Vince had, and what Vince lacked, Shin had. The only problem though was that Shin lacked some of the key elements I look at, while Vince didn't.

At 4/26/04 08:09 PM, Darklilangel23 wrote:

i molest lil boys the way i was molested when i was a choir boy

Your maturity astounds me.

hey Lenin shut the fuck up
untill u can make flash movies that are superior to vins or anyone else besides a 8 year old giggling like a girl at stick people dancing and anime boobs showing up randomly
till u then

LMAO if you notice, Vince has yet to pass the 3.80 mark...Unlike myself

your talent? you have none
so shut the fuck up
you have no right to talk that u can do better
talk all u want

I do and I will thank you.

PROVE UR WORDS

I just did.

you talk the talk but you dont walk the walk

Pity you cant do either.

You should actually do your research before barging into the topic and molesting me, that said, this has to be the easiest pwnage ever...

I'll Admit, Lenin is a batter animator than vince, only because he put effort into his battles. His opponents dont hurl save points at the heroes, and they dont die with 1 hit. Vince holds better story line, however he jumps on anyone who reviews low on his flash. To readers, Vince was once my friend along with several others on AIM, (such as Goldcrow, Mick_The_Champion, Shin2K27, etc) I introduced him (Vince) to them and I patiently awaited Vince's return when his computer died. I must say, I waited for THIS? He seems like me a year ago, a lil bitch who was award hungry. Thankfully, 'the group' showed my place by humiliating me countless times. Vince, your nothing more than my old image, I'll give you this, you came a long way and have much to show, but messing with Lenin and dissing Moogleslayer wasn't wise as they're 2 of the most respected FF sprite animators.
You may think I 'betrayed' you for the fact that you pulled my co-author. The truth may disappoint you, but, like they say "The Truth is too much for you to handle." The truth, is merely your a thief. Not a award thief, not a fan thief, I don't know the correct terminology for this so I can but only describe this. Your a thief who took my backgrounds, and (some) sprites, you took it from me, Hoodboy, and possibly crow. Was I in your credits? No. When the credits stopped, all was said and done for the episode, no "Thanks to HAcoreRD for the background" or whatever. You basically used us for your own fame.
Then we all know after "Frog Trigger" premiered you worshipped it and said it was the best. Hell you said it in your review for it. Now you said to Crow it's a piece of shit. Stop contridicting yourself there Vince.

I await your responce.

At 4/27/04 03:46 PM, HAcoreRD wrote:

You may think I 'betrayed' you for the fact that you pulled my co-author.

Actually you did betray me when you made that urbandictionary entry saying I'm an egotistical animator and that I get my gay friends to 5 my entries. And I gave you co-authorship of my awards because I felt sorry for you. Everyone was like "why are you giving him credit when he had nothing to do with the animation?" Then you expected me to do it everytime I submitted a movie!

The truth, is merely your a thief. Not a award thief, not a fan thief, I don't know the correct terminology for this so I can but only describe this. Your a thief who took my backgrounds, and (some) sprites, you took it from me, Hoodboy, and possibly crow. Was I in your credits? No. When the credits stopped, all was said and done for the episode, no "Thanks to HAcoreRD for the background" or whatever. You basically used us for your own fame.

First of all I NEVER used any of the backrounds or sprites you gave me. You gave me sprite sheets and I didn't even know how to rip sprites so I used sprites from different websites. If you look at my earlier work (before I knew you) you can see that I used the same sprites that I use today! And also I rip my own backrounds. I even told you that I didn't need your sprites and you said "well I guess I'm useless, but I just want to be a part of this". The only person I gave credit to was midnight angel because she actually made some animated attacks for me on certain episodes but the rest I got from google.

Then we all know after "Frog Trigger" premiered you worshipped it and said it was the best. Hell you said it in your review for it. Now you said to Crow it's a piece of shit. Stop contridicting yourself there Vince.

The same can be said about crow. He used to say "I love your work" and "time to watch your holy animation" and "this should be in the FF collection (he even left a review saying that)". But now that we aren't friends anymore he says "your movies are slow and cliche" and "this is a piece of shit" so he contradicted himself as well. Same with you. Before you were like "you are a god of FF" but now you say "all you do is tweening, you steal ideas, etc. etc." so whatever. You can deny it if you want but you know it's true.

Ladies, ladies. Don't get your panties all up in a bunch. Here's my opinion.

TheShadowOfLenin > Vinstigator
This is a fact, Darklilangel23 shut the fuck up. Lenin DOES talk the talk and sure damn CAN walk the walk.

But, Vince can own the rest of us storyline-wise. But, when push comes to shove, storylines will not carry you on forever. They need battles.

Also, do not go to far in numbers with one series; that reminds me of a certain other flash artist...

As to using sprites without permission, who knows. I for one don't really care. When a person watches a flash 99% of people really don't give a flying fuck who the hell is in the credits; it's mostly about the author.

Well that's my two cents.

The only thing I want to say here is that I like Shin's movie as much as I liked Vince's one.

It's all a matter of taste, no one can really tell who is the better animator between Lenin, Vince, Shin, Crow, etc. It's like LegendaryFrog, many consider him like the best, but many consider him like the worst.

At 4/27/04 04:22 PM, Vinstigator wrote:

At 4/27/04 03:46 PM, HAcoreRD wrote:

::
? No. When the credits stopped, all was said and done for the episode, no "Thanks to HAcoreRD for the background" or whatever. You basically used us for your own fame.

First of all I NEVER used any of the backrounds or sprites you gave me. You gave me sprite sheets and I didn't even know how to rip sprites so I used sprites from different websites. If you look at my earlier work (before I knew you) you can see that I used the same sprites that I use today! And also I rip my own backrounds. I even told you that I didn't need your sprites and you said "well I guess I'm useless, but I just want to be a part of this". The only person I gave credit to was midnight angel because she actually made some animated attacks for me on certain episodes but the rest I got from google.

Wrong, I am looking at my AIM log, 3-03-04 (Wednesday) I sent you 44 Images, many were backgrounds such as forest, Arena, and many many more, also Including a few sprites and 1 sheet. I sent you CT-Bottom of the night on 3-10, which I believe was used recently in 1 of your movies, 3-14 i sent lots of sprites, and I'm certain you used the backgrounds at least once.

At 4/27/04 05:02 PM, _Hood_ wrote:
Vince can own the rest of us storyline-wise. But, when push comes to shove, storylines will not carry you on forever. They need battles.

But the same thing goes for battles as well. This is the exact quote from the creator of Chrono Mirror...

Crono VS Everyone 2 has been scrapped because half way in I realized all the moves for Crono had been done in the first one.

At 4/27/04 03:46 PM, HAcoreRD wrote:

Wrong, I am looking at my AIM log, 3-03-04 (Wednesday) I sent you 44 Images, many were backgrounds such as forest, Arena, and many many more, also Including a few sprites and 1 sheet. I sent you CT-Bottom of the night on 3-10, which I believe was used recently in 1 of your movies, 3-14 i sent lots of sprites, and I'm certain you used the backgrounds at least once.

Actually I used Bottom of The Night in part 4 and I made that movie 11/24/2003. I actually have every SNES MP3 because I use winamp and I convert the SPC files to an MP3. I've been ripping backrounds since part 2. Your first review to any of my movies was on 12/1/03 and by then I was already working on part 8! You've never given me any CT backrounds yet I managed to get them in my current CT movie. Why? Because I ripped them myself like I've always been doing.

That is wrong, but I'm more discusted by pussys like you.

At 4/27/04 11:42 PM, cannibus_clock wrote: That is wrong, but I'm more discusted by pussys like you.

lol I like when Cannibus posts, he's never afraid to say what is on his mind :)

At 4/27/04 11:44 PM, Vinstigator wrote:

At 4/27/04 11:42 PM, cannibus_clock wrote: That is wrong, but I'm more discusted by pussys like you.

lol I like when Cannibus posts, he's never afraid to say what is on his mind :)

<3 j00

At 4/27/04 11:46 PM, cannibus_clock wrote:

<3 j00

Right back at ya good friend!

Anyway, this topic was about my fans supposedly sending Shin a virus (which they didn't since there was no proof). How did this turn into a "you stole sprites from me" thread?

At 4/27/04 11:52 PM, Vinstigator wrote: Anyway, this topic was about my fans supposedly sending Shin a virus (which they didn't since there was no proof). How did this turn into a "you stole sprites from me" thread?

Why do you think? Because HAcoreRD is jealous of your success.

At 4/28/04 12:27 AM, FFMaster03 wrote:

At 4/27/04 11:52 PM, Vinstigator wrote: Anyway, this topic was about my fans supposedly sending Shin a virus (which they didn't since there was no proof). How did this turn into a "you stole sprites from me" thread?

Why do you think? Because HAcoreRD is jealous of your success.

HAcoreRD is jealous of evryones succes.. escpecially mine. ha ha he hates it how much my fanz (all of ng ) loevs me! in fact he tried to have me assanated.

At 4/28/04 12:29 AM, Piconjo wrote:

At 4/28/04 12:27 AM, FFMaster03 wrote:

At 4/27/04 11:52 PM, Vinstigator wrote: Anyway, this topic was about my fans supposedly sending Shin a virus (which they didn't since there was no proof). How did this turn into a "you stole sprites from me" thread?

Why do you think? Because HAcoreRD is jealous of your success.

HAcoreRD is jealous of evryones succes.. escpecially mine. ha ha he hates it how much my fanz (all of ng ) loevs me! in fact he tried to have me assanated.

OMFG PICONJO RESPONDED! You are like a legend at flash animation! I bow to you! I can't wait for Piconjo jam #15! That is gonna pwn every other animation out there!