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ok first of all i was 11 when i lost my virginity to a girl 4 years older than me. she taught me a lot of things you would not know back then. second premarital sex will happen no matter who says its illegal or whatever. third my girlfriend is 5 years older than me, she just graduated college and is going to graduate school (im under 18 ok). everyone if fine with it (well except my mother thats another reason) and no one has called the cops. if that were to happen i believe she would be the one charged with like mad criminal charges and spend time in jail.

At 5/18/04 05:54 PM, _Wraith_ wrote: And while we're on the subject of "love", anybody got any good tips to talk to women? I think it's about time I got a gf, or at least confronted my shyness.

There's really nothing to it. Just talk to them, and don't be intimidated by the fact that they're girls.

Don't think that by losing your shyness you'll get a gf, though. I've had plenty of girl friends, but never a girlfriend. Get ready for a lonely life, my friend, because if you're rejected by girls now, you will always be.

I'm bitter.

At 5/18/04 09:07 PM, Jlop985 wrote: There's really nothing to it. Just talk to them, and don't be intimidated by the fact that they're girls.

I'm better at that than I used to be.

Don't think that by losing your shyness you'll get a gf, though.

If I can stop being such an idiot, It will help tremendously.

I've had plenty of girl friends, but never a girlfriend.

That's my situation right now.

Get ready for a lonely life, my friend, because if you're rejected by girls now, you will always be.

Oh great, I'm screwed already. I've gotten rejected 3 times already.

At 5/18/04 05:26 PM, Lucifur666 wrote: relationships are just about sex. steady pootang. and it isnt bad to have premarital sex. its very very good.

Bull. I've made it perfectly clear to my girlfriend that sex is not in the picture at this point in the relationship. Wow, I'm taking the third path, neither one nor the other.

thats agreeable. Hardly any relations ships are just based on sex, unless its one that wont last long.
Besides, theres so many things you'd have to deal with. Like the emotions that are strongly attached. Plus the dangers.

Ew theres this grade 9 in a relationship with a crossed grade 12

The only problem with that is that the ninth grader is probably immature, other than that there's no problem. In the real world relationships between people who are more than four years apart isn't that uncommon. I don't like how people get hung up over this high school age difference. It just smacks of being sheltered.

At 5/21/04 10:12 PM, Mr_Fluffykins wrote: Ew theres this grade 9 in a relationship with a crossed grade 12

It's only weird because the 9th grader is going threw puberty. It stops being weird after that.

well im 14 so i see this senario all the time. from what i have read its not illegal BUT greatly frounded upon by our parents. but i thinck its slightly ok just if u wear a jhonny cap. but then again we dont want our kiddies growing up to be sex craved animals. this is a verry tricky subject, and the questions may be never answerd. but truthfully its up to the parents to deside this factor.

At 5/22/04 12:48 PM, MasterGooie wrote: It's only weird because the 9th grader is going threw puberty. It stops being weird after that.

Most girls are done by then, although to be fair some may not have started, but that would be extreme.

blah, so what? It's wrong because they legally can't have sex.

Does every relationship have to revolve around sex? No of course not, so if this one doesn't then it's not wrong, now is it?

yeah, your right, however, lets look at the topics title.... hmmm...

Yes, I know, but that's half the point of the recent vien of discussion.

yeah. I though I wouldn't have sex with my first girlfirend but, 6 months later, bam! Nowadays, sex is so much more common. I know kids who are had sex at 13 and 14. One of my girlfriends was 15 when she lost it (to me). Just because they are young, doesn't mean that sex with their boyfriend and/or girlfriend hasn't been thought about. With an older guy or girl, there might be more of a pressure to have sex.

Really? Most of my closest female friends are still virgins, maybe it's just my area though as most of my college fucks weren't with virgins.

ehh, that or I was totally drunk when I entered that post because I don't remember it at all.

I just turned nineteen, and my girlfriend just turned sixteen. Is there anything morally wrong with that? I'm not interested in using her for sex. I met up with her, I was unaware of her age, and we fell in love. Shes mature for her age, sometimes to the point where she shoots me down. But I figure, feelings overcome authority. What do you think?

As mature as she may seem, 16 is a little too early in my eyes. My first sexual experience paralleled this and scarred both of us for a long time. That's my advice, but without knowing both of you intimately I can't really judge adequately. I see nothing truly wrong with it, though.

At 4/17/04 01:16 PM, Fiend_Lore wrote: is it actualy illegal for people under 18 to have sex (both of them under 18) or is it just greatly looked down apon?

over here in the UK u can have sex if ur both 16 or over

At 5/27/04 05:40 PM, stephen_robinson wrote: over here in the UK u can have sex if ur both 16 or over

Right you are. And we still have sexist laws blaming the boy, too. But sex is sex is sex, when someone is ready for it, only they know. And 16 - the magical age - what makes a 15 year old, who's 16 in a month, so much less emotionally mature than someone who's just turned 16?

It's all about responsibility and sexual/emotional maturity. No-one can age that. Although ages such as 11, 10 are far too young.

It isn't illegal unless you get caught. I highly doubt that most laws stop people. Yeah, they are only in place to prevent pre-teens from having sex.

At 5/22/04 12:27 PM, FatherVenom wrote: The only problem with that is that the ninth grader is probably immature, other than that there's no problem. In the real world relationships between people who are more than four years apart isn't that uncommon. I don't like how people get hung up over this high school age difference. It just smacks of being sheltered.

i can see where one WOULD get hung up on the age difference. During that time of your life 4 years makes more than just a difference physically; most kids mature greatly from the time they're freshman to the time they go to college. maybe not as much as we'd all like them too, but there's no denying that MOST people are a lot more adult in their mental and emotional maturity by the time they reach college than from the begging of highschool.

At 5/27/04 09:37 PM, Izuamoto wrote: maybe not as much as we'd all like them too, but there's no denying that MOST people are a lot more adult in their mental and emotional maturity by the time they reach college than from the begging of highschool.

ehh, that's too hypothetical to be a safe bet. If you had a statistic for us to look at, maybe I'd think otherwise. Most young couples that I've know that left college and got married (within an average of 5 years) divorced.

At 5/21/04 10:12 PM, Mr_Fluffykins wrote: Ew theres this grade 9 in a relationship with a crossed grade 12

When I was a senior I asked a freshman out. She said yes; her parents said no. I may have been desperate, but I didn't consider it perverted. Now, I think she made up that excuse to deceitfully shoot me down. Excuse me while I cry myself to sleep, and dream about my loveless pathetic life.

At 5/27/04 11:57 PM, Gooie wrote:

ehh, that's too hypothetical to be a safe bet. If you had a statistic for us to look at, maybe I'd think otherwise. Most young couples that I've know that left college and got married (within an average of 5 years) divorced.

yeah, what does that have to do with what i said? all i was saying was i can see why people make a big deal about a four year age difference in highschool when it comes to dating.

At 5/28/04 12:29 AM, Izuamoto wrote: yeah, what does that have to do with what i said?

Nothing. you forget I'm drunk every night