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Response to Metal Hell 2014-09-29 11:40:58 Reply

So Black Sabbath have announced they're planning one last album and a final tour. Though the dates of both of those are unknown.

as far as I know

Also, I have a very strong feeling that this is really going to be it. I mean Ozzy still has obligations for his solo career and has like 3 more albums to do under his current contract and Tony is still battling cancer. So with mainly the latter in mind, I can't see them wanting to go on any further considering the circumstances.
So if you haven't seen Sabbath live this may be your last chance ever to do so.

I'm also pretty stoked they're doing another album because I have some weird ocd where I probably would have flipped if they didn't release another album and left off at 19 albums instead of 20.

counting Seventh Star and Born Again even though those aren't technically Black Sabbath albums

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Response to Metal Hell 2014-09-30 01:48:11 Reply

Sean Reinert and Paul Masvidal revealed their homosexuality in May of 2014

I just stumbled upon this interview on Metal Archives after I wanted to do some digging on the band's early history because I just received the Focus extended edition album for my birthday. But... is it me or did the whole metal world already figured this out a while ago?

They also talk about their bad experiences with homophobic crowds and how they think that the metal world has evolved, which I believe is true. And it got me thinking about how amazing the metal community is. (The real one, not that nu-metal fucktard teenage pseudo metal community), the real thing. I know that some closed-communities like a moderately important chunk of the black metal community is still largely homophobic, but as a whole, metal seems to be leaning on a more open and accepting behavior towards historically discriminated minorities.

And I think that's great! We have great music, and great people :)

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Response to Metal Hell 2014-09-30 14:41:38 Reply

At 9/30/14 01:48 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Sean Reinert and Paul Masvidal revealed their homosexuality in May of 2014

I just stumbled upon this interview on Metal Archives after I wanted to do some digging on the band's early history because I just received the Focus extended edition album for my birthday. But... is it me or did the whole metal world already figured this out a while ago?

I knew about Masvidal, but didn't know Reinert was, too. Didn't really care anyway.

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Response to Metal Hell 2014-09-30 19:24:28 Reply

At 9/29/14 11:40 AM, Viper wrote: Also, I have a very strong feeling that this is really going to be it. I mean Ozzy still has obligations for his solo career and has like 3 more albums to do under his current contract and Tony is still battling cancer. So with mainly the latter in mind, I can't see them wanting to go on any further considering the circumstances.

This is such a bad way to create art... A fucking contract with a set number of records to produce... Call me an idealist... but how are you supposed to avoid releasing commercial crap if your main motivation to write music is "I have a contract which says "3 more albums by 2020" on it. Jeez!

So if you haven't seen Sabbath live this may be your last chance ever to do so.

I've never really perceived the actual band as being Black Sabbath... even if it is composed mainly of original members of the band. I think that the 80's Ozzy just wasn't the dick he is right now... and it might affect my abilities to perceive this band as the authentic band with great musicianship and passion they were when they released Master Of Reality and Paranoid.

But with you saying that this might actually be their last tour for real... it kind of makes me want to change my views on the subject. It would still be Geezer Butler, Tony Iommi and Ozzy Osbourne playing Sweet Leaf, Iron Man, War Pigs, and Into The Void. I think I might try to get some tickets for their last tour.

I'm also pretty stoked they're doing another album because I have some weird ocd where I probably would have flipped if they didn't release another album and left off at 19 albums instead of 20.

I still haven't given 13 a listen...

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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-01 01:29:23 Reply

At 9/30/14 07:24 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: This is such a bad way to create art... A fucking contract with a set number of records to produce... Call me an idealist... but how are you supposed to avoid releasing commercial crap if your main motivation to write music is "I have a contract which says "3 more albums by 2020" on it. Jeez!

Yeah I know. It's a load of bull. I don't see why people are stuck to a whole "you gotta release x amount of albums" sorta deal. I really like what Ipecac does and only has bands signed on for a single album contract because they believe that labels shouldn't "own" artists.

I've never really perceived the actual band as being Black Sabbath... even if it is composed mainly of original members of the band. I think that the 80's Ozzy just wasn't the dick he is right now... and it might affect my abilities to perceive this band as the authentic band with great musicianship and passion they were when they released Master Of Reality and Paranoid.

Yeah I can kinda see your point. In some small way I don't really see them as the same Black Sabbath that they were when Master Of Reality or Paranoid were released. But thats to be expected when a band like that has been around for 4 1/2 decades and crazy amounts of shit happens.....

But with you saying that this might actually be their last tour for real... it kind of makes me want to change my views on the subject. It would still be Geezer Butler, Tony Iommi and Ozzy Osbourne playing Sweet Leaf, Iron Man, War Pigs, and Into The Void. I think I might try to get some tickets for their last tour.

....but with that being said, it's still well worth it to go see them live. Ozzy's voice is as strong as ever and Tony and Geezer still are able play as well as they ever have. Even with all the shit Tony has gone through throughout his life he's still going strong.

I still haven't given 13 a listen...

Really? Despite Rick Rubin butchering the production and making it so the guitars overpowered both the drums and bass most times it's a good album. Maybe not first 5 or 6 Sabbath albums good, but still good.


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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-01 02:41:39 Reply

At 10/1/14 01:29 AM, Viper wrote: Yeah I know. It's a load of bull. I don't see why people are stuck to a whole "you gotta release x amount of albums" sorta deal. I really like what Ipecac does and only has bands signed on for a single album contract because they believe that labels shouldn't "own" artists.

And I mean, if they liked the label's work on the album, the artists could eventually want to work with the same label, right?

....but with that being said, it's still well worth it to go see them live. Ozzy's voice is as strong as ever and Tony and Geezer still are able play as well as they ever have. Even with all the shit Tony has gone through throughout his life he's still going strong.

Awesome :)

I still haven't given 13 a listen...
Really? Despite Rick Rubin butchering the production and making it so the guitars overpowered both the drums and bass most times it's a good album. Maybe not first 5 or 6 Sabbath albums good, but still good.

Hahaha! Rick Rubin! So he messed up both Death Magnetic and 13's production? Perfect XD

I'll listen to 13 eventually, still :)

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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-01 12:25:37 Reply

At 10/1/14 02:41 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: And I mean, if they liked the label's work on the album, the artists could eventually want to work with the same label, right?

Yeah.

Awesome :)

The only thing Tony really screwed up on when I saw them was he fucked up halfway into Embryo and just bsed it for the rest before going into Children Of The Grave.

Hahaha! Rick Rubin! So he messed up both Death Magnetic and 13's production? Perfect XD

Yep haha. And apparently Black Sabbath are going to be working with him again. Lets hope he doesn't butcher what may be the final Sabbath album.

I'll listen to 13 eventually, still :)

It's a good album. The singles don't do it justice and if you get the Deluxe Edition you get an extra disc that has probably the best song on the entire album. Methademic. It's also got a neat looking holographic version of the cover art that makes the 13 look like it's on fire when you move it.


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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-01 14:27:20 Reply

went to see within temptation with a cousin and 2 friends last night

it was alright, not loud enough to require earplugs and i wouldn't go out my way to listen to them on my own time but it was better then seeing a band i love alone


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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-01 15:04:34 Reply

At 10/1/14 12:25 PM, Viper wrote: The only thing Tony really screwed up on when I saw them was he fucked up halfway into Embryo and just bsed it for the rest before going into Children Of The Grave.

bsed? lol

Yep haha. And apparently Black Sabbath are going to be working with him again. Lets hope he doesn't butcher what may be the final Sabbath album.

Apparently that's something he seems to be good at... Maybe working with Slayer so much made him believe that all metal bands are fine with just having a shitload of distortion all over their drums and bass.

It's a good album. The singles don't do it justice and if you get the Deluxe Edition you get an extra disc that has probably the best song on the entire album. Methademic. It's also got a neat looking holographic version of the cover art that makes the 13 look like it's on fire when you move it.

I haven't heard the singles either, so there really isn't much of the actual content of the album that is holding me back from giving it a listen, except for these feelings I have toward the band that I've mentionned earlier, and also the fact that I can't help bu feel that they are just trying to cash in one or two last times on such a succesful name. But really, I should give the album a listen!

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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-01 19:21:33 Reply

At 10/1/14 03:04 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 10/1/14 12:25 PM, Viper wrote:
bsed? lol

Yeah. Like he just parted whatever he wanted because he's Tony Iommi and he does what he wants.

Apparently that's something he seems to be good at... Maybe working with Slayer so much made him believe that all metal bands are fine with just having a shitload of distortion all over their drums and bass.

Yeah that's probably it. Every band is different and as such should be treated at least a little bit differently when it comes to how things are handled in the studio.

I haven't heard the singles either, so there really isn't much of the actual content of the album that is holding me back from giving it a listen, except for these feelings I have toward the band that I've mentioned earlier, and also the fact that I can't help but feel that they are just trying to cash in one or two last times on such a succesful name.

Yeah that makes sense. I mean whenever any band that had as much history as Sabbath suddenly comes back after being inactive for years it feels like they're only doing so because they want money. Case in point Deep Purple. I love Deep Purple. But still think that their newest album is just them trying to get more money.

But really, I should give the album a listen!

Yeah. If you ever do let me know what you think.


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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-03 19:20:41 Reply

Quick!
If you could pick any Metal band to get their own ice cream who would it be and what would be in it?


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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-04 00:23:55 Reply

At 10/3/14 07:20 PM, Viper wrote: Quick!
If you could pick any Metal band to get their own ice cream who would it be and what would be in it?

Anal Cunt, of course.

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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-04 01:11:16 Reply

At 10/3/14 07:20 PM, Viper wrote: Quick!
If you could pick any Metal band to get their own ice cream who would it be

Tankard

and what would be in it?

beer

In fact, forget the ice cream.

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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-05 10:49:03 Reply

What's everyone feeling about Electric Wizard's latest, Time to Die? I know it was mentioned a few pages back. I listened to it in full yesterday. It was very Electric Wizard, and I mean that in the greatest way.

Right up there with Come My Fanatics, which was previously my favorite EW album. Really liked "Destroy Those Who Love God" and "We Love The Dead."


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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-05 12:20:04 Reply

At 10/5/14 10:49 AM, saltovergray wrote: What's everyone feeling about Electric Wizard's latest, Time to Die? I know it was mentioned a few pages back. I listened to it in full yesterday. It was very Electric Wizard, and I mean that in the greatest way.

After listening to it more times I really like it. For me its one of those albums where you're super into it after first but after listening to it a few times it grows on you.

Right up there with Come My Fanatics, which was previously my favorite EW album. Really liked "Destroy Those Who Love God" and "We Love The Dead."

Though personally I wouldn't place it that high. Ranking for me it'd go:
1 Electric Wizard
2 Come My Fanatics
3 We Live
4 Dopethrone
5 Witchcult Today
6 Time To Die
7 Let Us Prey
8 Black Masses
And even with that ranking in mind, ever EW album is really good in their own way. And each have at least 2 songs that I'd place VERY highly on my top Doom Metal songs. For that, when it comes to Time To Die, would be Funeral Of Your Mind, Incense For The Damned, and We Love The Dead.


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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-09 18:20:15 Reply

New Acid King coming next year according to their Facebook page.


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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-20 20:30:37 Reply

And I am now the proud owner of the a cd copy of the album Headless Cross by Black Sabbath. Only cost $20.


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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-20 22:11:39 Reply

At 10/20/14 08:30 PM, Viper wrote: And I am now the proud owner of the a cd copy of the album Headless Cross by Black Sabbath. Only cost $20.

Are you going to frame it, or listen to it?


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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-20 23:54:15 Reply

At 10/20/14 10:11 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:
At 10/20/14 08:30 PM, Viper wrote: And I am now the proud owner of the a cd copy of the album Headless Cross by Black Sabbath. Only cost $20.
Are you going to frame it, or listen to it?

Listen to it? The album is mildly hard to find but it's not like I'd frame it or something and never do anything with it. I AM going to frame my now signed Welcome To My Nightmare by Alice Cooper. Dunno when though.


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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-21 17:45:58 Reply

New Summoning album being made. They need to ease up on the keys, IMO.


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Response to Metal Hell 2014-10-21 21:01:41 Reply

At 10/21/14 05:45 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: New Summoning album being made. They need to ease up on the keys, IMO.

I don't mind their extensive use of the keys--it never took anything away from me. They've done consistently well. My favorite Summoning album will probably remain Minas Morgul though.

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At 10/21/14 09:01 PM, GoryBlizzard wrote:
At 10/21/14 05:45 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: New Summoning album being made. They need to ease up on the keys, IMO.
I don't mind their extensive use of the keys--it never took anything away from me. They've done consistently well. My favorite Summoning album will probably remain Minas Morgul though.

They're a good band, but sometimes the keys and simulated brass stuff and whatnot can get pretty hokey at times. I can't remember which albums I liked more because it's been a long time since I listened to them, but I think I remember liking Lugburz the most for not having as much of the fake orchestra sound going on. Though I guess most people like that one the least.


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