At 7/31/13 04:04 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 7/31/13 02:37 AM, ElGhoulio wrote:
I'm perfectly calm. And the "paternalistic lecture" you're referring to is when someone disagrees with you. And yes, I have been through shit you can't imagine, so don't insinuate that you have been through equivalent experiences.I know that having life experiences will have effects on your personnality, but I just can't understand why you'd use your life experiences to devaluate my argumentative positions on a matter or another.
There's your problem. For starters, devaluate is not a word; the word you're looking for is devalue. That being out of the way, I didn't devalue any of your arguments. I merely stated that you should take them somewhere where they're needed, and not here.
That's pretty bordering on ad hominem argumentation field, if you ask me. I don't see how going to jail would help you understand any better than me that there are certain specific situations in which you have to learn to stay quiet or to be tactful.
Because in prison, being loud and obnoxious gets you killed. If you can't see how that would teach you how to keep your mouth shut when the situation requires is, I don't know how to spell it out any clearer for you. That's not a fuckin ad-hominem attack. I never attacked your personality or your person; I merely disagreed with you. If anyone has attacked someone's character, it's you, Duff.
That's like saying you need to get cut by a chainsaw to be able to understand not to put your fingers on the blades. Not only is it false, but you just come out as pretentious when you use that kind of flawed logic. Like you have some kind of higher understanding of social encounters then me for the sole purpose that you went to jail.
No, you don't need to get your fingers stuck in blades to know not to do that, but if you were to in fact cut your fingers with a chainsaw, I'm pretty damn sure you're a lot less likely to do that again than someone who hasn't done that. And yes, going to prison does teach you a lot about life, if you're willing to learn.
From the post you made, it is not me who is devaluing you, but you who is devaluing me. You insisted that my experiences which you do not have do not matter and are irrelevant. You seem to believe that opinions that contradict your own are worthless/incorrect. I have not devalued anything you have said; I merely stated that the Metal Hell was not the place to say it.
I also have my very own life experiences. But I don't think that it is highly relevent to mention those when debatting.
You are nothing without your experiences, Duff. They are always relevant. And besides, I wasn't debating. I was ending the debate. I've had collegiate debates before and I know when I'm debating. Last night, I was telling y'all to STFU about politics since this not the place for that. I apologize for whatever contribution I made to that, but I saw it getting a little heated, so I interjected, and felt my personal experiences would be a guide in explaining why arguing about politics in a metal forum is a bad idea.
OR this could be for flying off the handle on me several pages back for criticizing James LaBrie.I said it was "stupid" to call him a whiny little girl. It might have been a little too much or innapropriate, but if that's what you call "flying off the handle"...
You wrote 4 paragraphs in response to a one sentence handle. That's overreacting. You have a habit of doing that whenever someone disagrees with you. I noticed this years ago when you first joined the metal hell, and it's only gotten worse since. What really grinded my gears, though, was that you insisted that I was crazy for liking Domenici better than LaBrie, when it turns out...
You didn't actually listen to Domenici. That is, you were talking out of your ass because someone insulted your hero.
I know this is a lot to read, Duff, but this is something I've noticed for years, and that is you shut down and attempt to steamroll anybody who disagrees with you online, probably because you can't do that in real life. Either way, I realize I'm never gonna change you, so I guess trying to talk to you is a pointless affair.