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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-19 20:16:27 Reply

Welcome back, K2LU.

good music, Viper. I like the songs you posted.

At 11/19/12 02:57 PM, mothballs wrote: Yeah, Metal-Archives is mostly what I was referring to. Most of the reviews of later albums of a band are all composed of "This album proves that (insert band name here) is not nearly as good as they used to be". It's as if people just can't accept new music, they always have to go back to the old stuff.

A good example of that is the album, Vilosophe by Manes. Everybody hates on it because it isn't black metal like their first album, Under ein Blodraud Maane. So what? Yeah, Under ein Blodraud Maane was a brilliant album, and I can understand people being disappointed that they didn't get anything more from Manes in the same vein, but Vilosophe was still a great album.

At 11/19/12 10:24 AM, Viper50 wrote: Just out of curiosity. To everyone here that listens to Electric Wizard, what album would you suggest to someone that was just starting to listen to them?
I'm trying to get someone I know into them.
Also what would you say is the best and worst stuff they released?

Dopethrone, Come My Fanatics, and Witchcult Today are their best, IMO, and probably a good start for new listeners.

As for their worst stuff, none of their stuff is bad, but I like Black Masses the least.

At 11/19/12 06:28 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: And I don't know Let Us Prey enough to give a worthy opinion on it.

Let Us Prey is pretty good. My favorite song on it is definitely Night of the Shape, even though it's so different from anything else they've ever done.


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At 11/19/12 08:16 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: good music, Viper. I like the songs you posted.

Thanks dude.

Dopethrone, Come My Fanatics, and Witchcult Today are their best, IMO, and probably a good start for new listeners.

Okay then I'll just lend her Witchcult Today then, and maybe burn Dopethrone or Come My Fanatics.... or something.

As for their worst stuff, none of their stuff is bad, but I like Black Masses the least.

I liked Black Masses. Though out of all of their stuff my least favorite song of theirs is The Processean.
If you haven't listened to it....tada.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-20 09:50:43 Reply

At 11/19/12 02:57 PM, mothballs wrote: Yeah, Metal-Archives is mostly what I was referring to. Most of the reviews of later albums of a band are all composed of "This album proves that (insert band name here) is not nearly as good as they used to be". It's as if people just can't accept new music, they always have to go back to the old stuff.

Ensiferum have sadly fallen to that with the reviews for their latest album. It's why I've pretty much discarded every review of that particular album on there. Thankfully I don't think so often of the above statement over one album. I might think that if it's a band/artist who are still playing today after 40 years and lost all relevance in the modern age of music.

At 11/19/12 06:28 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I really still can't get over the fact that this Cheap Rock fanboy of a man has given a D+ to Leftoverture by Kansas... It's just obvious the man doesn't know shit about rock and metal. The fuck why does he even have a job ?

I'm gonna be perfectly honest here. I have yet to try out Kansas. Maybe for prog rock I've been wanting to check out more from the British side of it as thousands of bands popped up from there and the amount of good stuff to discover seems to be endless from one country alone. Still, I will get to checking out Kansas eventually.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-20 23:58:51 Reply

Just got Mago De Oz's Gaia III Antlantia. I must say, this is one huge clusterfuck of styles, but I like it. It sounds, in turns, folky, progressive, classically influenced, electro, poppy, and theatrical. I love it.


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At 11/20/12 11:58 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: Just got Mago De Oz's Gaia III Antlantia. I must say, this is one huge clusterfuck of styles, but I like it. It sounds, in turns, folky, progressive, classically influenced, electro, poppy, and theatrical. I love it.

It's funny... I always assumed that this band didn't release anything new since Gaia. And the only reason is that I do not hang out with the people I first borrowed Mago De Oz's cds from back in 2003. So since I don't know a lot of people who are into them, I didn't hear much from them ever since, except of course for the albums I already owned.

So why don't you tell me how they did over the last decade ?

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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-21 23:20:05 Reply

At 11/16/12 02:29 PM, Bahamut wrote: I wouldn't take any critic seriously if their website looks like it was made in 2000.

You shouldn't take any critic seriously. Musical taste is subjective. For example, St Anger is my second favourite Metallica album. I'm sure someone likes Lulu. Then again, there's also common sense.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-22 02:48:48 Reply

At 11/21/12 11:20 PM, jjjkuk wrote:
At 11/16/12 02:29 PM, Bahamut wrote: I wouldn't take any critic seriously if their website looks like it was made in 2000.
You shouldn't take any critic seriously. Musical taste is subjective. For example, St Anger is my second favourite Metallica album. I'm sure someone likes Lulu.

Yeah, it's subjective, but there ARE objective ways of measuring music's worth. For instance, things like dynamics, performance, counterpoint, originality, mixing, etc...

Then again, there's also common sense.

Which is why I dislike Ildjarn. There's no reason for any Ildjarn album to get over 40%.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-22 10:37:19 Reply

I know we have some Manilla Road fans in here, so has anyone heard Mark Shelton's side project Hellwell? I picked the album up a few days ago, and it IS AWESOME. I think (at least in my opinion) it's the best Manilla Road-style albuum since Spiral Castle. It is full of awesome riffs and a very promenint keyboard, but that's a good thing. Check it out if you are a fan of Manilla Road or old school metal.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-22 11:02:35 Reply

At 11/20/12 11:58 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: Just got Mago De Oz's Gaia III Antlantia. I must say, this is one huge clusterfuck of styles, but I like it. It sounds, in turns, folky, progressive, classically influenced, electro, poppy, and theatrical. I love it.

If there's one thing I've been liking from metal bands lately, it's bands that can incorporate various subgenres in one place and still sound like the same band. I know I keep bringing up this band but Hammers of Misfortune are a great example for when they were more black/death metal orientated at first with traditional metal elements for The Bastard and the Unholy Cadaver demo but have shown folk, thrash, doom, progressive and power metal elements throughout their career so far. This is also why I've been fascinated with what I've heard from While Heaven Wept so far for showing a mixture of doom, progressive and power metal.

As for Mago De OZ, I've not heard of them before but I did just listen to Sueños Dormidos. I take it this album will require a thorough listen to get the full idea of it.

At 11/21/12 11:20 PM, jjjkuk wrote:
At 11/16/12 02:29 PM, Bahamut wrote: I wouldn't take any critic seriously if their website looks like it was made in 2000.
You shouldn't take any critic seriously. Musical taste is subjective.

Allow me to rephrase: I'll take someone with an ancient design of a website less seriously. :P

At 11/22/12 10:37 AM, Zodir wrote: I know we have some Manilla Road fans in here, so has anyone heard Mark Shelton's side project Hellwell? I picked the album up a few days ago, and it IS AWESOME. I think (at least in my opinion) it's the best Manilla Road-style albuum since Spiral Castle. It is full of awesome riffs and a very promenint keyboard, but that's a good thing. Check it out if you are a fan of Manilla Road or old school metal.

I probably find Hellwell's album to be the weakest Manilla Road album post-reunion (if it counts as a 'Road album). Some good riffs here and there but the overall record doesn't seem to be as gripping as everything else they've done. Even though this album was only released this year, Mark Shelton has said that in 2013 he will be spending time to work on more material for Hellwell and Manilla Road, even if the latter hasn't had the upcoming album Mysterium released yet. He also has yet another project to work on as well. At this rate he'll be releasing albums more frequently than Devin Townsend.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-22 11:06:19 Reply

DAFUQ IS THIS?!

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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-22 11:21:22 Reply

At 11/22/12 11:06 AM, Bahamut wrote: DAFUQ IS THIS?!

Hahahaha silly, Mago De Oz is spanish for Wizard of Oz lol


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-22 11:35:56 Reply

At 11/22/12 11:21 AM, ElGhoulio wrote:
At 11/22/12 11:06 AM, Bahamut wrote: DAFUQ IS THIS?!
Hahahaha silly, Mago De Oz is spanish for Wizard of Oz lol

The Oz part is a giveaway but my question is the look of that album cover. It's on the danger level of Manowar's Anthology.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-22 12:27:34 Reply

At 11/22/12 11:35 AM, Bahamut wrote:
At 11/22/12 11:21 AM, ElGhoulio wrote:
At 11/22/12 11:06 AM, Bahamut wrote: DAFUQ IS THIS?!
Hahahaha silly, Mago De Oz is spanish for Wizard of Oz lol
The Oz part is a giveaway but my question is the look of that album cover. It's on the danger level of Manowar's Anthology.

Cheese doesn't bother me, though, which is why I like Tuirbo. ;)


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-22 13:44:16 Reply

At 11/22/12 12:27 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: Cheese doesn't bother me, though, which is why I like Tuirbo. ;)

I can enjoy cheese myself but damn, some things are not meant to seen.

Dat one dressed as Dorothy....

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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-22 16:43:47 Reply

At 11/22/12 11:35 AM, Bahamut wrote:
At 11/22/12 11:21 AM, ElGhoulio wrote:
At 11/22/12 11:06 AM, Bahamut wrote: DAFUQ IS THIS?!
Hahahaha silly, Mago De Oz is spanish for Wizard of Oz lol
The Oz part is a giveaway but my question is the look of that album cover. It's on the danger level of Manowar's Anthology.

Fuck them and their silly covers. Nobody in the metal community will ever take these guys seriously with such covers. There is no other band that would dare doing this.

Right...?

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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-22 17:32:48 Reply

At 11/22/12 04:43 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Right...?

Yeah man, how did this band get popular with such crappy artworks like this????

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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-22 18:38:15 Reply

At 11/22/12 05:32 PM, Bahamut wrote:
At 11/22/12 04:43 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Right...?
Yeah man, how did this band get popular with such crappy artworks like this????

Is that a seal's head ?

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At 11/22/12 06:38 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 11/22/12 05:32 PM, Bahamut wrote:
At 11/22/12 04:43 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Right...?
Yeah man, how did this band get popular with such crappy artworks like this????
Is that a seal's head ?

I honestly don't think anyone really knows.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-23 05:08:01 Reply

At 11/22/12 10:26 PM, Zodir wrote:
At 11/22/12 06:38 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Is that a seal's head ?
I honestly don't think anyone really knows.

You might as well say it's a seal head since we're that clueless. :P

Also, if we do want really bad for album artwork, something that does draw the line for me and I wouldn't even listen to it, yet alone have it on CD, is Autopsy's Shitfun. I have their first two albums and would like to get Macabre Eternal eventually but Shitfun? Forget it.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-23 05:44:05 Reply

At 11/23/12 05:08 AM, Bahamut wrote: Also, if we do want really bad for album artwork, something that does draw the line for me and I wouldn't even listen to it, yet alone have it on CD, is Autopsy's Shitfun. I have their first two albums and would like to get Macabre Eternal eventually but Shitfun? Forget it.

Wow... also thanks for not posting the picture in here. Damn ! Even if I was a fan I think I couldn't get over the cover to buy it...

Talking about succesful marketing... this t-shirt was already sold 432 times by this seller on ebay. I'm pretty sure standard Black Sabbath albums do not sell as much.

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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-23 10:45:10 Reply

At 11/23/12 05:44 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Wow... also thanks for not posting the picture in here. Damn ! Even if I was a fan I think I couldn't get over the cover to buy it...

To think Manowar's Anthology is NOT the worst album cover out there...

Talking about succesful marketing... this t-shirt was already sold 432 times by this seller on ebay. I'm pretty sure standard Black Sabbath albums do not sell as much.

This is the one thing that got me about Black Sabbath. They haven't had many inspiring album covers so what is there to have on a T-Shirt? At least with Iron Maiden they've provided a great range of T-Shirt designs. Black Sabbath on the other hand.... Uhhh.


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At 11/23/12 10:45 AM, Bahamut wrote: This is the one thing that got me about Black Sabbath. They haven't had many inspiring album covers so what is there to have on a T-Shirt? At least with Iron Maiden they've provided a great range of T-Shirt designs. Black Sabbath on the other hand.... Uhhh.

Well....I wouldn't mind having a T-shirt of Master Of Reality or Volume 4....
Though I will agree about the lack of "inspiring album covers".


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At 11/23/12 05:44 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Talking about succesful marketing...

heh. I just recently watched the Avengers for the first time and I noticed that.


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At 11/23/12 01:33 PM, Viper50 wrote: Well....I wouldn't mind having a T-shirt of Master Of Reality or Volume 4....
Though I will agree about the lack of "inspiring album covers".

Yeah, I could probably go for Master of Reality myself but even then, you look at any other good album artwork you could have on a T-Shirt and then realise there's just so much better to have. Well, self-titled artwork would be fine on a T-Shirt but yeah, so little options for them.

At 11/23/12 02:18 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: I'm surprised Metal Archives accepted this. Usually they are mired in elitism, and spend much of their time either downvoting otherwise good, if not poppy, albums, and upvoting crap albums just because they are "kvlt".

They always have Plan B...


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At 11/23/12 10:45 AM, Bahamut wrote: To think Manowar's Anthology is NOT the worst album cover out there...

At least Anthology is the cheesy kind of bad. Shitfun is just nasty.

At 11/23/12 02:18 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: I'm surprised Metal Archives accepted this. Usually they are mired in elitism, and spend much of their time either downvoting otherwise good, if not poppy, albums, and upvoting crap albums just because they are "kvlt".

This is a good review and I get what you mean. The admins and mods tend sometimes to support or reject one point of view or the other. But MA still often respects reviews that goes against the flow. Just look at the other reviews for the album Forest Poetry. Even if black metal kiddos with no kind of critical mind would give a blowjob to this kind of album if it had a dick, they still allow people with opposing views to express them.

At 11/23/12 02:59 PM, Bahamut wrote: Yeah, I could probably go for Master of Reality myself but even then, you look at any other good album artwork you could have on a T-Shirt and then realise there's just so much better to have. Well, self-titled artwork would be fine on a T-Shirt but yeah, so little options for them.

Talking about this, I've already posted a picture with two different Master Of Reality t-shirts on my Facebook page to ask people which one they think I should get. I'll share it here two I guess ! Tell me what you think

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At 11/23/12 02:59 PM, Bahamut wrote: Yeah, I could probably go for Master of Reality myself but even then, you look at any other good album artwork you could have on a T-Shirt and then realise there's just so much better to have. Well, self-titled artwork would be fine on a T-Shirt but yeah, so little options for them.

Yeah...although I think the shirts with Henry and stuff with on them look cool.

At 11/23/12 04:48 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Talking about this, I've already posted a picture with two different Master Of Reality t-shirts on my Facebook page to ask people which one they think I should get. I'll share it here two I guess ! Tell me what you think

Hmm....I like both. But if it were me I'd go with the one on the right.
I dunno I just like the solid black with the text on it opposed to the white with black sleeves.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-23 23:51:48 Reply

Not metal but does anyone here have any experience with the band Kamchatka?


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My review for Death Magnetic :)

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This is still down. I guess it's gone forever...damnit.


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