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At 6/3/12 09:37 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: In case of any tensed nerves here in the hell, and to provide comic relief, is a bunch of women cosplaying as Dethklok:

This made me remember an episode of dethklok

My take on Venom is that while they might have given a little boost to get black metal up and running, the true start of black metal is with Bathory and such. Now that I see as early black metal as opposed to Venom. Anyway, can't debate too much as I'm having a blast with the new Kreator album.

At 6/3/12 09:37 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: In case of any tensed nerves here in the hell, and to provide comic relief, is a bunch of women cosplaying as Dethklok:

Even Dr Rockso?

At 6/4/12 12:16 AM, Shade wrote: Got the latest Dragonforce album for my birthday from a friend.

It's alright, I wouldn't have paid more than five bucks for it.

At least Cry Thunder is a good merit from them. Probably the best song of theirs yet.

You guys should try to listen to Control Denied (if it wasn't posted here),they are awesome with that bass.

At 6/4/12 07:12 AM, Bahamut wrote: My take on Venom is that while they might have given a little boost to get black metal up and running, the true start of black metal is with Bathory and such. Now that I see as early black metal as opposed to Venom. Anyway, can't debate too much as I'm having a blast with the new Kreator album.

I've listened to a couple tracks off YouTube, and it sounds pretty sweet. They have added a lot more melodic parts, but it works really well. And the thrash still kicks ass.

At 6/3/12 09:37 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: In case of any tensed nerves here in the hell, and to provide comic relief, is a bunch of women cosplaying as Dethklok:

That can't be all women.

At 6/4/12 12:59 AM, ElGhoulio wrote: BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE man I missed you. You, Sense, Duffeknol/Schop Kont/Lamehorse/Kickass, Cows, Fuck, man, there's so many fuckers I haven't talked to in years since I got sent down the river, and it's great to hear from you again.

wow. memories. Duffy was the one who let me in here, back when he was a horseman.

At 6/4/12 10:07 AM, Tudordan wrote: You guys should try to listen to Control Denied (if it wasn't posted here),they are awesome with that bass.

Steve DiGiorgio, of Death fame.

Man, taking a good stroll outside when the weather is chilly and the sky is filled with grey clouds while listening to The Mantle is beautiful.

At 6/4/12 10:07 AM, Tudordan wrote: You guys should try to listen to Control Denied (if it wasn't posted here),they are awesome with that bass.

Anything that is linked to Chuck Schuldiner was mentionned in here at some moment :)
Another nice project that died with Chuck... :'(

At 6/4/12 04:19 PM, CoCo wrote: Man, taking a good stroll outside when the weather is chilly and the sky is filled with grey clouds while listening to The Mantle is beautiful.

Definitely. Agalloch has such an immersive feeling, and they create the best nature-linked ambiences. I feel like doing just the same right now. Thanks to you !

Mastodon - The Sparrow

At 6/4/12 06:02 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 6/4/12 10:07 AM, Tudordan wrote: You guys should try to listen to Control Denied (if it wasn't posted here),they are awesome with that bass.

Anything that is linked to Chuck Schuldiner was mentionned in here at some moment :)
Another nice project that died with Chuck... :'(

The band is supposedly trying to get their final recordings together and

At 6/4/12 06:07 PM, Zodir wrote:
The band is supposedly trying to get their final recordings together and

wat

At 6/4/12 10:20 AM, Zodir wrote:

At 6/4/12 07:12 AM, Bahamut wrote: My take on Venom is that while they might have given a little boost to get black metal up and running, the true start of black metal is with Bathory and such. Now that I see as early black metal as opposed to Venom. Anyway, can't debate too much as I'm having a blast with the new Kreator album.

I've listened to a couple tracks off YouTube, and it sounds pretty sweet. They have added a lot more melodic parts, but it works really well. And the thrash still kicks ass.

The stronger melodic elements is one to notice. They almost turn themselves into a power metal band here. It's crazy but it's damn good.

At 6/4/12 01:42 PM, Viper50 wrote: dont know if anyone else heard but Candlemass have officially parted ways with Robert Lowe

Well, the new vocalist won't have much to shine seeing as the new album is meant to be their last, unless they do a copout and make one with the new vocalist anyway.

At 6/4/12 06:07 PM, Zodir wrote: The band is supposedly trying to get their final recordings together and

I'm on the edge of my seat.

At 6/4/12 06:07 PM, Zodir wrote:

At 6/4/12 06:02 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 6/4/12 10:07 AM, Tudordan wrote: You guys should try to listen to Control Denied (if it wasn't posted here),they are awesome with that bass.

Anything that is linked to Chuck Schuldiner was mentionned in here at some moment :)
Another nice project that died with Chuck... :'(

The band is supposedly trying to get their final recordings together and

Oh, I have no clue what happened here. Anyways, apparently the vocalist has said that the band along with Chuck's estate are trying to get the final recordings together and release their unreleased album. It was supposed to be released in December of last year, but that never developed. Maybe they will release it, maybe they won't.

At 6/3/12 07:03 PM, ElGhoulio wrote:

At 6/3/12 02:44 PM, DeIirium wrote:

At 6/3/12 01:17 PM, ElGhoulio wrote:

At 6/3/12 07:09 AM, DeIirium wrote:

At 6/2/12 11:35 PM, ElGhoulio wrote:

At 6/2/12 07:50 PM, Tobi wrote:

At 6/2/12 06:33 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

Venom weren't original at all. They may have invented the name, but they weren't black metal -- they were NWOBHM, which couldn't be farther from black metal. They were like motorhead with satanic lyrics, not black metal. Black metal didn't exist until Bathory -- and yes, I know Venom were first, but let's make a checklist:

Extremely raw feel -- Venom were raw, but no raw-er than other heavy metal bands at the time. Bathory, check. Venom, no.

Screeched vocals -- Venom's were barked, making them more like Savatage and Motorhead than anything extreme. Bathory, check, Venom, no.

Fast paced -- Venom were faster than average, but there were plenty of thrash bands around at the time that were faster. Bathory, check. Venom, no.

Dark atmosphere -- Venom, again, may have had satanic lyrics, but their music is about as dark as rainbows and butterflies. Again, Bathory, check. Venom, no.

Venom were the grandfathers of black metal. They carved out an evolutionary line in metal, branching off from NWOBHM, but black metal didn't come to be until the thrash influence kicked in, i.e., with Bathory.

I've been into metal for going on 12 years now and I'm also in college and am used to analytical thinking and just finished Physical Anthropology, which is about evolution. Applying that kind of thinking to metal, and Venom may have spawned black metal, but were they themselves black metal? No. Listen to Black Metal, then listen to The Return... by Bathory.

I rest my case.

What you are talking about here is black metal from the point of view of a person today. The things that now define black metal are different from 30 years ago. Venom were in their day the most extreme metal band with the most evil lyrics, and there were no bands which were doing the same thing. What they coined the style of music they played was Black metal. Venom created the original black metal sound and aesthetics and invented the name, thus they were the original black metal band and there's nothing wrong with calling them black metal now either. The style of music that Bathory played, and the style which emerged in Norway came later, and now those styles are what black metal is popularly identified as, but saying that Venom aren't black metal because their music doesn't contain most of its modern elements is wrong.

Agalloch is announcing their touring dates on their Facebook page.

Those are the dates they have already announced, but they will be adding some new dates every now and then :

Wed 7/11 in Portland, OR at Branx w/Eight Bells
Thu 7/12 in Seattle, WA at the Crocodile w/Eight Bells
Fri 7/13 in Vancouver BC at the Rickshaw w/Eight Bells
Sat 7/14 in Spokane, WA at The A Club w/Eight Bells
Sun 7/15 - TBA
Mon 7/16 in Bozeman, MT at Zebra
Tue 7/17 in Denver, CO at Bluebird Theater
Wed 7/18 in Omaha, NE at Waiting Room
Thu 7/19 in Milwaukee, WI at Miramar Theater
Fri 7/20 in Chicago, IL at Reggie's
Sat 7/21 in Ann Arbor, MI at Blind Pig w/Musk Ox
Sun 7/22 in Cleveland, OH at Beachland Ballroom
Mon 7/23 in Toronto, ON at Opera House w/Musk Ox
Tue 7/24 in Montreal, QC at Petit Campus w/Musk Ox
Wed 7/25 in Boston, MA at Middle East
Thu 7/26 in Brooklyn, NY at Williamsburg Music Hall w/Musk Ox
Fri 7/27 in Philadelphia, PA at Underground Arts
Sat 7/28 in Springfield, VA at Empire
Sun 7/29 in Raleigh, NC at King's Barcade
Mon 7/30 - OFF
Tue 7/31 in Tampa, FL at Orpheum
Wed 8/01 in Atlanta, GA at The Earl
Thu 8/02 in Birmingham, AL at Bottletree w/Pallbearer
Fri 8/03 in New Orleans at One Eyed Jack's w/Pallbearer
Sat 8/04 in Dallas, TX at La Grange w/Maleveller
Sun 8/05 in Austin, TX at Red 7
Mon 8/06 - OFF
Tue 8/07 - OFF
Wed 8/08 - TBA
Thu 8/09 in San Diego, CA at The Casbah w/Author & Punisher
Fri 8/10 in Los Angeles, CA at Echoplex w/Oskoreien
Sat 8/011 in San Francisco, CA at Great American Music Hall

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I will see them on July 24th in Montreal :) Plus, I will get the chance to see Musk Ox again !!!

At 6/5/12 04:12 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
Sat 8/011 in San Francisco, CA at Great American Music Hall

I shall have to go to that one.

In another note, is anybody into DHG (Dodsheimsgard's newer incarnation)? I just got into them, and they're what I have been needing moar of: industrial black-ish metal.

At 6/5/12 10:57 PM, ElGhoulio wrote:

At 6/5/12 04:12 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
Sat 8/011 in San Francisco, CA at Great American Music Hall

I shall have to go to that one.

I really hope we get to hear what they wrote for Faustian Echoes. Since the recording was completed back in March, I think we have good chances to see this new material live :)

John Cage - Music for Marcel Duchamp

Moon of My Nights

I had forgotten how beautiful that track was...

At 6/5/12 09:15 AM, Zodir wrote: Oh, I have no clue what happened here. Anyways, apparently the vocalist has said that the band along with Chuck's estate are trying to get the final recordings together and release their unreleased album. It was supposed to be released in December of last year, but that never developed. Maybe they will release it, maybe they won't.

It's becoming another Time at this point. I keep hearing they're meant to release it but it's always being pushed back. It's hard to get excited it for this when there's no clear sign of it coming out. I learned my lesson with Wintersun.

I would love to hear someone combine these two tracks to make a doom/stoner song.

At 6/6/12 01:14 PM, Viper50 wrote:

At 6/6/12 01:06 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I would love to hear someone combine these two tracks to make a doom/stoner song.

whoa Asterix as in Asterix, Obelix, and Dogmatix?

yep yep. I only knew about this one game as a kid, though. I found out later that it was a franchise and that game wasn't the only thing to it.

Diablo Swing Orchestra just came out with Pandora's Pinata. I'm excited to give it a listen. If it's anything like DSO's previous works, then I'm in for one huge clusterfuck.

At 6/6/12 03:05 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: yep yep. I only knew about this one game as a kid, though. I found out later that it was a franchise and that game wasn't the only thing to it.

In french-speaking countries they are rather well-known. Goscinny and Uderzo have created some of the greatest comic books ever. I own every single book they have released together. It is filled with intelligent humor, great stories, loveable characters, fantastic drawings and memorable moments.

I don't know if the translations are any good, but the original versions are masterpieces. I highly recommand you learn to speak french to fully appreciate these books. If you can't, just pick up a translated version and tell me what you think !

Well, High on Fire pulled out of the Mayhem Tour. This sucks, cuz they were one of my primary reasons for going.

I just know that Jari Mäenpää wrote 5 songs with a band called "Immemorial" before being part of Ensiferum and Wintersun.
This is one of the songs, check it out: Immemorial - Fading Miracles

Summer full of concerts, I like this. I got Marduk/1349 next week, followed by Iron Maiden in August and Devin Townsend in September. Fuck yeah.

I wish more bands I like would play at the Chance or the Loft, which are both in Poughkeepsie. I'd be more likely to be able to make it there than NYC.

I'll bee seeing Motorhead along with Anthrax, Slayer, and Slipknot (meh) in a few months. I really can't wait, I've always wanted to see them live. Anthrax are extremely good live as well. Slayer are good too, but I'll be going with family, so sadly there will be no moshing. Slipknot aren't nearly as terrible as people say (though I'd never listen to them on my own time), and I hear they do some pretty cool shit live with the dual kits. No matter what, Motorhead is the band I want to see. Better prepare the ear-plugs.