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Response to Metal Hell 2010-04-24 09:07:50 Reply

Hey, guys, I'm back. Sorry I haven't been here in a while. Been busy with life.

At 4/23/10 11:22 PM, Dalnaki wrote: Any NWOBHM fans here with a legit interest in the genre, instead of just the usual "Oh yeah, Iron Maiden and Angel Witch are cool."? NWOBHM isn't my strong point, but I know enough to get by. Anyway, here's a band for you guys. Swedish, too. I know that piqued your interest.

Here are some more basic NWOBHM bands you should check out:
Raven
Pagan Altar
Tank
Demon
Witchfynde
Blitzkrieg
Bitches Sin
Fist
Grim Reaper

Just check these guys out. They're pretty good.


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At 4/24/10 01:41 PM, batman64 wrote: Speaking of Raven...
I saw them live back in the 80's.
Killer show.
Killer band.
Killer time.
Thanks for the memory.

Yeah, Raven was awesome for their first three albums. After that, they kinda went downhill. If you want Raven at their best, listen to Rock Until You Drop, Wiped Out, and All For One.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-04-24 15:03:29 Reply

At 4/24/10 08:23 AM, Bahamut wrote:
The 80s were the best of times for metal so it only makes sense to introduce people to those 80s bands.

Smells like opinions :)

A lot of great bands came out of the 90's and the 2000 years... It would be kind of silly to leave these bands out of the list.

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At 4/24/10 08:23 AM, Bahamut wrote: I guess I'm not much of a legit NWOBHM fan just yet. Going by this list, I know Angel Witch, Demon, Diamond Head, Girlschool (just barely, though), Iron Maiden, Motörhead, Satan (just barely) and Saxon.

Haha, neither am I. What I picked up was mostly stuff from NWOBHM comps and my friends.
My NWOBHM folder is rather lacking, and only has about 20 bands in it.

At 4/24/10 09:07 AM, Zodir wrote: Here are some more basic NWOBHM bands you should check out:
Raven
Pagan Altar
Tank
Demon
Witchfynde
Blitzkrieg
Bitches Sin
Fist
Grim Reaper

Just check these guys out. They're pretty good.

I know all these bands except for Demon. I'll check them out later, thanks brah.

To everyone else: Yes, RAVEN is the best. Probably my favorite NWOBHM band, Grim Reaper being a close second. Also, you guys who like thrashy NWOBHM might like Avenger (UK). Avenger also has a flashy vocalist in the vein of Bruce Dickinson, if you guys are into that. Personally, I prefer him over Dickinson but that's just me.

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At 4/24/10 03:03 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 4/24/10 08:23 AM, Bahamut wrote:
The 80s were the best of times for metal so it only makes sense to introduce people to those 80s bands.
Smells like opinions :)

A lot of great bands came out of the 90's and the 2000 years... It would be kind of silly to leave these bands out of the list.

A great starting metal band is The Lord Weird Slough Feg. I got a couple of people to start listening to them. Also, when you try to get people into death metal, try some more melodeath stuff, like In Flames, Children of Bodom, and Kataklysm.


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At 4/24/10 03:11 PM, Zodir wrote:
A great starting metal band is The Lord Weird Slough Feg. I got a couple of people to start listening to them. Also, when you try to get people into death metal, try some more melodeath stuff, like In Flames, Children of Bodom, and Kataklysm.

Talking about Death Metal. I know they are not straight down Death Metal, but Blotted Science does include a lot of Death Metal elements and they could be one of the bands you would like to use to introduce people to Death Metal. Still, I'm saying this cause that's what I did with my ex-girlfriend and another girl I've met. But these two girls are intelligent... which is not the case of all people who listen to Slipknot and Korn... and who keep going around saying they are soooo much into metal music.

Problem with melodeath is that a lot of people get stuck at that level...
I have friends like this. I introduced them to metal with my favorite melodeath and gotheburg bands like Scar Symmetry, Nightrage, Wintersun, Kalmah, CoB, Arch Enemy and the such...
and then some core like All That Remains... but they just like... got stuck...
I've tried getting them interrested in some Folk like Ulver... Equilibrium... Some Death... with Blood Red Throne, Benighted, Decapitated, Origin... but it really just never worked... they got stuck on Melodeath and now they won't try anything else...

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At 4/24/10 03:11 PM, Zodir wrote: when you try to get people into death metal, try some more melodeath stuff, like In Flames, Children of Bodom, and Kataklysm.

I don't know about the melodeath stuff, because it would probably give them the wrong impression. I'd say stuff like Leaukemia, Creepmime, AoM-era Morbid Angel, and other death metal bands with vocals that aren't deep unholy guttural blasphemies. Since most of the time it's the vocals that stop people from liking DM. Giving them extreme power metal bands like CoB and In Flames won't change that.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-04-24 17:34:54 Reply

Holy fucking shit, it's been years since i last logged in, and this topic is still alive!


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At 4/24/10 03:19 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
I've tried getting them interrested in some Folk like Ulver... Equilibrium... Some Death... with Blood Red Throne, Benighted, Decapitated, Origin... but it really just never worked... they got stuck on Melodeath and now they won't try anything else...

How on earth can someone say no to Spheres of madness by decapitated, or Mephitication by BRT?


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-04-24 18:52:53 Reply

At 4/24/10 06:07 PM, Origina-l wrote:
At 4/24/10 03:19 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
I've tried getting them interrested in some Folk like Ulver... Equilibrium... Some Death... with Blood Red Throne, Benighted, Decapitated, Origin... but it really just never worked... they got stuck on Melodeath and now they won't try anything else...
How on earth can someone say no to Spheres of madness by decapitated, or Mephitication by BRT?

People like simple shit. Don't think too hard about it, or it'll just make you mad.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-04-24 19:59:27 Reply

At 4/24/10 06:07 PM, Origina-l wrote:
How on earth can someone say no to Spheres of madness by decapitated, or Mephitication by BRT?

Believe me... there are some people who simply do not have any kind of tastes in music...

At 4/24/10 07:16 PM, Satoris wrote: WTB membership...

What does that mean...

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-04-24 20:01:56 Reply

Just found a new band, Morbid. Anyone else listen to them?


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-04-24 20:33:23 Reply

Watain-I Am The Earth makes me depressed Im like so connected to that song. I listen to it when I walk in the woods.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-04-24 23:22:27 Reply

At 4/24/10 08:01 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: Just found a new band, Morbid. Anyone else listen to them?

Which Morbid? There are a dozen bands with that name.

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At 4/24/10 11:22 PM, Dalnaki wrote:
At 4/24/10 08:01 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: Just found a new band, Morbid. Anyone else listen to them?
Which Morbid? There are a dozen bands with that name.

Talking about that...

I still don't get why... a lot of new bands go for the most unoriginal and stereotypical band names...
I mean, you want to make a black metal band... I really suggest that you do not name your band "Dark Forest". It's obvious that there is already one band (or a fucking thousand bands) named that way...

In fact, if you are going to name your metal band... Dark "something", you better fucking double check if there is not already a band named that way...

A few examples taken from Metal Archives...

Dark Age (6 bands)
Dark Ages (8 bands)
Dark Angel (2)
Dark Autumn (3)
Dark Dream (2)
Dark Earth (3)
Dark Eden (5)
Dark Embrace (5)
Dark Forest (5)
Dark Horizon (3)

This one as nothing to do with the list but... Dark White...
Non-sense is always epic :)

Anything with the word dark of darkness is already probably taken, so how can 5 guys, sitting around a table trying to find a name for their band could end up thinking that they would be the most original and awesome band if they would call themselves Eternal Darkness (8 bands)?

I mean, how could you guys? Please...

Anyway.. other shits like
Lightning
Moonlight...
and other fucking obvious shits...

Most important is that the image you will give to people is that you cannot even find an original name to your band. I know we should not judge artists so quick, but first thing I think when I see such a stereotypical name for a band... is that if they couldn't even find enough creativity to find an original name, how could they write original music? I always expect generic black metal music when someone tells me to listen to a band named Eternal Darkness of Dark Forest. I really think that picking a name like this is not the best way to make a good impression on listeners...

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At 4/23/10 01:44 PM, Nev wrote: LolPonoslistenstoDeathcorewhatafag.

I don't listen to deathcore, I HAVE listened to deathcore. And the musicianship in a lot of bands (Such as All Shall Perish) is great, but the music itself doesn't connect with me. I usually love guitar and drum wankery.

I'm only defending myself because you didn't understand. I'm perfectly comfortable with my metalality. I don't swing that way :)

At 4/23/10 03:12 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: I don't know if you guys also hate Dimmu Borgir as some people I found that hate them, and I didn't really understood why... I love their music. I don't understand why all the hate on Cradle of Filth too...

Because Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth are lame copies of these awesome bands that we all like.

At 4/24/10 12:33 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: So much faggotry going on in here.

Watch out, Coop will ban you for that naughty word.

I feel like I'm in kindergarten.

Oh, and Ponos is back, yay.

Yes. I was kind of banned for 40 days. And thanks for caring love!

Thinking of band names isn't easy. My stoner metal band is currently called 'Troll'. It just kind of stuck. We could think of things way more original than that, but what's the point, it's fine how it is.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure there was an old black metal band called that, when I searched it on the metal archives. But we like our name.


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At 4/25/10 03:17 AM, PenisClown wrote:
Thinking of band names isn't easy. My stoner metal band is currently called 'Troll'. It just kind of stuck. We could think of things way more original than that, but what's the point, it's fine how it is.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure there was an old black metal band called that, when I searched it on the metal archives. But we like our name.

I always thought that when a band's name was already taken you could still make an album with that name. If Troll is really a name you guys like, then it could be the name of one of your tracks, demo or even a full lenght album title if you guys ever make it this far.

Or you could add another word that would match with the word Troll and stick it somewhere in your band's name :P

Or... yeah, you could leave it that way. I mean... there is only one Megadeth, there is only one Black Sabbath, there is only one Iron Maiden. I bet you would like your band to be the only band named that way...

Still... if you like it that way, than that's just fine with me. Especially if you guys don't plan on making a living out of this band.

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At 4/24/10 07:59 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 4/24/10 07:16 PM, Satoris wrote: WTB membership...
What does that mean...

I think it's a saying from various MMORPGs - "Want To Buy" Cut the n00b some slack, I think he wants to join.

A list of 10 metal bands that you like is required, I feel, Satoris.


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At 4/24/10 05:34 PM, Origina-l wrote: Holy fucking shit, it's been years since i last logged in, and this topic is still alive!

Oh man, and I'm probably the only one that remembers your name ^^ what's up?


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-04-25 08:13:44 Reply

At 4/25/10 03:17 AM, PenisClown wrote: Oh, and I'm pretty sure there was an old black metal band called that, when I searched it on the metal archives. But we like our name.

There was one, but I'm pretty sure they either changed to straight electronica or electronic black metal. Pretty sure I know who you're talking about though.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-04-25 08:46:07 Reply

So Raven's the next NWOBHM band I should check out. I'll also have a closer look at Satan since I know one song of theirs from a cover by Blind Guardian.

At 4/24/10 03:03 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 4/24/10 08:23 AM, Bahamut wrote:
The 80s were the best of times for metal so it only makes sense to introduce people to those 80s bands.
Smells like opinions :)

The majority enjoy those bands and that's where metal was making huge developments in the genre. It makes perfect sense to put Megadeth and Maiden in the beginners metal list. Throwing them Agalloch or any lesser known metal bands isn't the way to go IMO.

At 4/24/10 03:11 PM, Dalnaki wrote: My NWOBHM folder is rather lacking, and only has about 20 bands in it.

Lacking? That's as much power metal bands as I have in my library.

At 4/24/10 03:11 PM, Zodir wrote: A great starting metal band is The Lord Weird Slough Feg. I got a couple of people to start listening to them.

I don't really see Slough Feg as a starting band but my sister has shown Warriors Dawn to so many people metal and non-metal fans alike and they all enjoy it. I would recommend Slough Feg to anyone who's wanting to listen to more bands with the traditional metal sound.

At 4/25/10 03:51 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: there is only one Iron Maiden

Actually, there existed another Iron Maiden band long before they were formed.

At 4/25/10 08:13 AM, AllMightyBruce wrote: There was one, but I'm pretty sure they either changed to straight electronica or electronic black metal. Pretty sure I know who you're talking about though.

Why do I find these change of styles in black metal bands strange?

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-04-25 08:51:12 Reply

Sorry Coop, wont happen again.

Also, that was like, my first ban in 2-3 years since my last one XD

At 4/24/10 02:23 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 4/24/10 12:33 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: So much faggotry going on in here.
This is pretty much why we are elitist. We have our views of what metal is and we don't want to hear about anyone else's views :)

I'm just saying.

I forget what I was going to say to this :/

But yeah. All good.

At 4/24/10 03:03 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Smells like opinions :)

Is it just me, or when you guys read this post you saw opinions as well?

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At 4/25/10 02:54 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:
I still don't get why... a lot of new bands go for the most unoriginal and stereotypical band names...
I mean, you want to make a black metal band... I really suggest that you do not name your band "Dark Forest". It's obvious that there is already one band (or a fucking thousand bands) named that way...

Quilty of that. my band is called "Warbeast" but the fact was, there was only 1 band named that way, (with any kind of status and/or internet space) and that was us!
Untill some american band changed their name into "warbeast" to, without checking for other users : /

Not that i'm really fond of the name. but we couldn't think of anything else at the time


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At 4/25/10 03:17 AM, PenisClown wrote: I'm only defending myself because you didn't understand. I'm perfectly comfortable with my metalality. I don't swing that way :)

AND EVEN IF YOU DID I'D RESPECT YOUR SEXUALITY!

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At 4/25/10 08:51 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: Sorry Coop, wont happen again.

Have you no balls? Don't suck his dick!


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At 4/25/10 01:45 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Have you no balls? Don't suck his dick!

Theres these things called manners. You're too angsty to understand :P.


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At 4/25/10 02:12 PM, Nev wrote:
At 4/25/10 01:45 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Have you no balls? Don't suck his dick!
Theres these things called manners. You're too angsty to understand :P.

Wow... And your the one talking about manners?
You are just always... playing devil's advocate...
Remember the time when Ponos and I would start flame wars everyday? You would always tell me not to bother and that it was only the internet and blah blah blah. You were one of these guys who thought it was alright for Ponos to insult me 8 times in a sentence of 5 words...

Nev, you suck...

And still, to you guys who told me that Agalloch is not a good start to introduce people to metal... I think you guys are wrong, cause I managed to get two girls interrested into metal by making em listen to Agalloch. My ex-girlfriend now likes bands like Blotted Science and Ulver. I guess that what I did was not a bad move... at all :P

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At 4/25/10 03:22 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Wow... And your the one talking about manners?
You are just always... playing devil's advocate...

Nothing to do with manners, really, that.

Remember the time when Ponos and I would start flame wars everyday? You would always tell me not to bother and that it was only the internet and blah blah blah. You were one of these guys who thought it was alright for Ponos to insult me 8 times in a sentence of 5 words...

Ponos was obviously trolling you to pieces, and you were taking his bait each time.


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At 4/25/10 03:22 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: And still, to you guys who told me that Agalloch is not a good start to introduce people to metal... I think you guys are wrong, cause I managed to get two girls interrested into metal by making em listen to Agalloch. My ex-girlfriend now likes bands like Blotted Science and Ulver. I guess that what I did was not a bad move... at all :P

The only reason I wouldn't use Agalloch to get people into metal is that Agalloch don't sound a whole lot like other metal bands. I feel like if I used Agalloch to get people into metal, I'd end up getting them into just Agalloch and not metal in general.