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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-13 05:40:18 Reply

At 3/12/10 11:02 AM, AkujinRuukasu wrote:
At 3/12/10 05:01 AM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: Speaking of merch I just ordered this bad boy.
Niiice. I wonder if there is that T-shirt, only with its colors reversed?

I believe there is such a thing:)


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-13 06:13:34 Reply

At 3/13/10 03:00 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I know Wiki and Metalstorm may not be very good sources...

I've heard a few bad things about Metalstorm, especially from Goatchrist so I've forgotten about that site. If that site considers Slipknot as metal, then it's what I thought. If not, then I'm not sure what the site he didn't like was called.

There is a goddamn keyboardist in the band

Does that mean Dream Theater are power metal?

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-13 06:26:04 Reply

At 3/12/10 07:31 PM, Bahamut wrote:
At 3/12/10 07:24 PM, Zodir wrote:
At 3/12/10 03:33 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Yep, I just came.
Never heard of them, what genre are they and are they any good?
The album cover screams out power metal to me but some reliable sites don't claim it to be. Besides that, it does look damn good. :) Shame I've never heard of Axel Rudi Pell before.

They've sort of teetered on the line between classic Heavy Metal and Power Metal ever since their third album. Before that, they were pretty much the very definition of Glam.

Nowadays, they play a mix of Heavy Metal, Classic Rock and Power Metal. But The Crest looks like a return to a more Power Metal style.

I'd still recommend that you guys check them out.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-13 09:09:46 Reply

So, I just want your guys' input again, because I'm having an argument with a friend, and I want to prove him wrong:
Which is heavier, black metal or death metal?

I'd appreciate any responses.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-13 10:41:00 Reply

At 3/13/10 09:09 AM, Zodir wrote: Which is heavier, black metal or death metal?

I'd probably say Death Metal, I love both but to me DM is usually heavier while BM is more atmospheric and messy.

Although In The Constellation Of The Black Window is fuckin sick and heavy, made my ears hurt several times, it's sexeh :P


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-13 10:59:09 Reply

At 3/13/10 09:09 AM, Zodir wrote: Which is heavier, black metal or death metal?

That all depends on what your definition of heavy is.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-13 11:26:50 Reply

At 3/13/10 09:09 AM, Zodir wrote: Which is heavier, black metal or death metal?

Death Metal commonly has much more bass and overall 'crunch' to it.
The vocals are also much more in the 'Heavy' sound than BM.

Black Metal as lacks a lot of the bass, but makes up for it with atmosphere to be fair.

So I'm gonna say Death Metal.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-13 12:57:45 Reply

At 3/13/10 09:09 AM, Zodir wrote: Which is heavier, black metal or death metal?

I would say death metal, because it is (most of the time) faster. And like Oppugnant said, black metal lacks some bass. It's not as clean sounding.

Don't get me wrong, I love them both, but Death metal is definitely heavier.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-13 13:47:23 Reply

At 3/12/10 09:06 PM, batman64 wrote:
At 3/12/10 08:50 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote: New band; new songs

Check this out, yo. Rough drafts but they're all right.
Not to shabby.
I added you guys on myspace.

Me too, you guys have some awesome sludge.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-13 14:24:29 Reply

Slipknot fuckin rules motherfuckers!


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-13 16:33:34 Reply

Fuck! Beefcake from gwar was in town with his band yesterday AND I MISSED IT FUCK!!!!


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-13 17:45:24 Reply

At 3/13/10 09:09 AM, Zodir wrote: Which is heavier, black metal or death metal?

I'd appreciate any responses.

Doom.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-13 18:37:13 Reply

At 3/13/10 05:45 PM, Nev wrote:
At 3/13/10 09:09 AM, Zodir wrote: Which is heavier, black metal or death metal?

I'd appreciate any responses.
Doom.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 00:13:03 Reply

I'll whore us out one more timeWHORE OUT WHORE OUT


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 01:37:14 Reply

Oh btw I just had surgery to remove one of these nasty things out of my wrist.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 03:33:26 Reply

At 3/13/10 06:13 AM, Bahamut wrote:
At 3/13/10 03:00 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I know Wiki and Metalstorm may not be very good sources...
I've heard a few bad things about Metalstorm, especially from Goatchrist so I've forgotten about that site. If that site considers Slipknot as metal, then it's what I thought. If not, then I'm not sure what the site he didn't like was called.

So if a website classify Metallica as Heavy Metal, Kreator as Thrash Metal, Mordor as Doom Metal, Ulver as Black Metal, but who would dare implying that Nu-Metal is a form of metal, you would say that everything about this website is crap?
I'm sorry dude... but to a lot of people, Nu-Metal is a form of metal. Can't say I could blame them... just look at the name...


There is a goddamn keyboardist in the band
Does that mean Dream Theater are power metal?

In fact I pretty much meant that all of the caracteristics I named putted together were making a pretty good reason to classify them as Power Metal.
You won't see knights and wizards in DT's lyrics and album covers. Plus, I said that sometimes Heavy and Power Metal are confused with each others.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 03:39:32 Reply

At 3/14/10 03:33 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: So if a website classify Metallica as Heavy Metal, Kreator as Thrash Metal, Mordor as Doom Metal, Ulver as Black Metal, but who would dare implying that Nu-Metal is a form of metal, you would say that everything about this website is crap?

Well hey, one bad apple ruins the bunch. Especially if they're saying that Metallica is heavy metal.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 03:43:26 Reply

At 3/14/10 03:39 AM, D3NTATUS wrote:
At 3/14/10 03:33 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: So if a website classify Metallica as Heavy Metal, Kreator as Thrash Metal, Mordor as Doom Metal, Ulver as Black Metal, but who would dare implying that Nu-Metal is a form of metal, you would say that everything about this website is crap?
Well hey, one bad apple ruins the bunch. Especially if they're saying that Metallica is heavy metal.

You can't say they are straight down Thrash Metal.
And you are the one talking about bad apples here. These guys may like or dislike Slipknot but still consider them Metal. I don't like some metal that I can still consider as part of the metal universe. These guys just have a different conception of what Metal is.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 03:55:48 Reply

At 3/14/10 03:43 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: You can't say they are straight down Thrash Metal.

But they are... well, were. There's a reason they were the biggest band of the Big 4 of thrash (the reason was that they were thrash).

And you are the one talking about bad apples here. These guys may like or dislike Slipknot but still consider them Metal. I don't like some metal that I can still consider as part of the metal universe. These guys just have a different conception of what Metal is.

I was just making a joke, I don't want to get into another bullshit argument about the subjectivity of the term "metal" and how we all need to accept that some people think metalcore and nu-metal is metal and some of us don't, because those arguments don't do anything.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 03:57:47 Reply

At 3/14/10 03:55 AM, D3NTATUS wrote:
At 3/14/10 03:43 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: You can't say they are straight down Thrash Metal.
But they are... well, were. There's a reason they were the biggest band of the Big 4 of thrash (the reason was that they were thrash).

Megadeth also were one of the Big 4 of thrash, still, they did play some Heavy Metal stuff...

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 04:01:52 Reply

At 3/14/10 03:57 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Megadeth also were one of the Big 4 of thrash, still, they did play some Heavy Metal stuff...

Again, thrash. And again, like Metallica, they stopped playing straight-up thrash after thrash was big. I prefer to always think of them as thrash bands who happened to make some other stuff, which may have been alright (megadave) or musical abortions (metallica).

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 04:02:56 Reply

i forgot to mention that i don't really consider a band's genre to be the summary of all the genres they've played. i usually classify bands based on what each album is. i dunno, i'm tired, i'm gonna sleep.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 08:16:50 Reply

Last.fm trolls are so terrible. It's annoying as fuck because they think they're hilarious.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 10:41:43 Reply

At 3/13/10 06:26 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: I'd still recommend that you guys check them out.

Not bad from what I've heard. I'll be sure to check him out sometime but that could be a while. Right now, I'm aiming to finish off a few artists with getting all their albums like Judas Priest and Manowar. Then I have a few other artists who I've been meaning to get one of their albums for a while now.

At 3/13/10 09:09 AM, Zodir wrote: Which is heavier, black metal or death metal?

Does it matter which is heavier? As long as it sounds good, I could care less about how heavy it is, hence why I can enjoy metal bands that are considered to be the "least heaviest".

At 3/13/10 10:02 AM, MudkipsPiano wrote: I am buying 30 albums of Slaughter of the soul, just in case 29 of them break.

You know, I don't even have two of the same albums and if there's going to be any albums I'll re-buy, it's some of Judas Priest to finish off the remaster collection and Blind Guardian's first two albums for the demo tracks. However, I'm sure I can get the demos elsewhere.

At 3/14/10 03:33 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 3/13/10 06:13 AM, Bahamut wrote: I've heard a few bad things about Metalstorm, especially from Goatchrist so I've forgotten about that site. If that site considers Slipknot as metal, then it's what I thought. If not, then I'm not sure what the site he didn't like was called.
So if a website classify Metallica as Heavy Metal, Kreator as Thrash Metal, Mordor as Doom Metal, Ulver as Black Metal, but who would dare implying that Nu-Metal is a form of metal, you would say that everything about this website is crap?

Not entirely crap but you know to be cautious about what they say. I'm still weary about what Metal-Archives say at times after accepting Trivium when bands which are clearly more metal than them such as Uriah Heep and The Black Mages are rejected.

I'm sorry dude... but to a lot of people, Nu-Metal is a form of metal. Can't say I could blame them... just look at the name...

So...What have you learned from the metal community?

You won't see knights and wizards in DT's lyrics and album covers. Plus, I said that sometimes Heavy and Power Metal are confused with each others.

Actually, you might want to take a look at In the Presence of Enemies.

At 3/14/10 08:16 AM, AllMightyBruce wrote: Last.fm trolls are so terrible. It's annoying as fuck because they think they're hilarious.

It's reasons like this why I stay far away as possible from the community. It's an embarrassment to humanity. I'd say they're as bad as YouTube. All I do on Last.fm these days is look at my charts and see how my friends are on there.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 11:16:57 Reply

At 3/14/10 08:16 AM, AllMightyBruce wrote: Last.fm trolls are so terrible. It's annoying as fuck because they think they're hilarious.

I want your beard.

Just sayin'


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 11:46:32 Reply

Throwing out a random question.

Favorite thrash metal band. Go.

I say Kreator.
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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 12:15:56 Reply

At 3/14/10 11:46 AM, mothballs wrote: Favorite thrash metal band. Go.

Municipal Waste, no contest.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 12:31:30 Reply

At 3/14/10 11:46 AM, mothballs wrote: Throwing out a random question.

Favorite thrash metal band. Go.

I say Kreator.

Voivod. A bit strange, but hey, I love em.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-03-14 12:55:23 Reply

Kreator, voivod and MW are all great.

But i'm going to have to add Artillery, Demolition Hammer and Paradox to that list of greatness.


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municipal waste is gonna FUCK YOU UP