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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-18 11:13:56 Reply

At 2/18/10 12:03 AM, jew193 wrote: On a separate note, has anybody ever heard of Animals As Leaders? I have no idea where I even heard their name, but I listened to their album and it's actually really good.

Only thing good about them is their name. Animals are fucking awesome, and humans suck.

At 2/18/10 10:12 AM, AniMetal wrote: Melodeath metal is good, except when it borders on metalcore. (In Flames since the beginning of the 2000's)

VERY true, new In Flames sucks. They've leaned more towards the core side, and now I can't bare listening to them. The older albums (Clayman, Colony, etc.) are the only ones I listen to currently, and not much, since it always creeps my mind how they're not what they used to be.

At 2/18/10 10:47 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: I had a friend who claimed he accidentally spat on a member of Overkill. He meant to spit on a member of some lame band and missed.

Meh, that's nothing, I spat on the vocalist of Vader and we went home together and had raging, gay sex.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-18 11:23:32 Reply

I grabbed Joe Duplantier's (of Gojira) cock and balls.
And I spanked him.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-18 11:47:24 Reply

At 2/18/10 07:04 AM, Nev wrote: Plus we totally need someone European. Since Marko pretty much left this club is incredibly racist :P.

That was a total dig you dink. Haha.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-18 12:50:49 Reply

At 2/17/10 07:51 PM, Nev wrote: Me and DentorBahamut

Yes, the three of us were competing for the horsemen title last Summer but we never concluded that. I was looking back at those posts last night and I think we all paid more attention to smeagol's video. Heh.

Bill's fucked off.

I'm sure he'll be back eventually but yeah. I'd like to hear some thoughts from Sense, Idio and Goatchrist on Bill's status here.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-18 14:32:26 Reply

Does it bug the fuck out of anyone else when a shit band has the same name of a band that you love?

Also, who else thinks it's funny that Ghaal "retired" from the metal scene?

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-18 18:26:24 Reply

At 2/18/10 04:14 AM, AllMightyBruce wrote: I'm the oldest regular posting member here. But you guys don't want me as a horseman. I don't really want to be one either so meh.

Never said we didn't want you as a mod...

At 2/18/10 05:35 AM, PenisClown wrote:
And Nev is the only person who deserves to be horseman right now. I may have been here for three years, but I've caused way too much drama to earn anyone's respect =P

I don't think it should only be based on this. An Horseman needs to have a good metal culture. Still, our most active regulars all have a good metal culture...
But yes, I think it's time we choose ourself a new horseman. Right now we have only two right? or maybe 3?
Well, we should at least replace Ghoul, cause he isn't active at all, not even close to being a regular.
So if our actual horseman are alright with that, we should vote. Everyone who would like to be elected should say it and we could make a little election :)

It's also quite funny that we are not seing you going on a rampage with all these melodeath fans we have in the hell nowaday. I remember you going completely insane when I first joinned and that I was highly into power metal and melodic death. Worst is that these guys are even worst then I ever was :P

At 2/18/10 11:23 AM, Nev wrote: I grabbed Joe Duplantier's (of Gojira) cock and balls.
And I spanked him.

I'd like to ear you say Duplantier with your hardcore british accent.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-18 18:35:49 Reply

At 2/18/10 06:26 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'd like to ear you say Duplantier with your hardcore british accent.

I'll say it for you when you help me do Big Brother ;).


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-18 18:36:47 Reply

I think Sense and Idio should remain horsemen, Goatchrist is BEYOND horseman anyways.

I vote Nev and Bahamut.

Nev because he is more active than anyone else and Bahamut because he is the best poster in the thread right now, by far.

And yes, both have been in the thread for years, know their stuff, are coherent, etc.

At 2/18/10 06:26 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: It's also quite funny that we are not seing you going on a rampage with all these melodeath fans we have in the hell nowaday.

Because ponos probably didn't know about bands like Insomnium and Katakyslm back then, probably all he knew were In Flames and Soilwork.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-18 19:08:10 Reply

At 2/18/10 02:32 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: Does it bug the fuck out of anyone else when a shit band has the same name of a band that you love?

Slipknot

Also, who else thinks it's funny that Ghaal "retired" from the metal scene?

It's only funny because he's a cockroach that'll never die. He'll be doing this Satan shit years after we're all dead.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-18 19:31:59 Reply

At 2/18/10 06:35 PM, Nev wrote:
At 2/18/10 06:26 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'd like to ear you say Duplantier with your hardcore british accent.
I'll say it for you when you help me do Big Brother ;).

Anytime I can dude :P

At 2/18/10 06:36 PM, AniMetal wrote:
At 2/18/10 06:26 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: It's also quite funny that we are not seing you going on a rampage with all these melodeath fans we have in the hell nowaday.
Because ponos probably didn't know about bands like Insomnium and Katakyslm back then, probably all he knew were In Flames and Soilwork.

Dunno, cause even if I did list a lot of bands, he still kept saying melodeath was shit...

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-18 19:50:57 Reply

At 2/18/10 07:31 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Dunno, cause even if I did list a lot of bands, he still kept saying melodeath was shit...

No offense, but almost all the time you listed bands back then to defend melodic death metal you would always list metalcore bands.

With a few exceptions of course.

Also, I know you're a fan but is it just me or does Threat Signal's second album suck balls compared to their first?


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-18 21:35:00 Reply

Guys, I won't be posting here for awhile. I may be a father.... I know it sounds rediculious, me a father if so Im joining the reserves to support her. It's time to man up this test shall secure our fate.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-18 22:31:19 Reply

Oh to Mudkipspiano, another melodic death metal band I forgot to tell you about was Be'lakor. They're from Australia and really good.

No idea why i mentioned the Australian part
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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-18 23:17:06 Reply

At 2/18/10 06:26 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Never said we didn't want you as a mod...

No, I know that. I'm just saying I'm a dick so I'd probably say no to someone just based on my perceptions of them thats all. Haha.

At 2/18/10 07:08 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote: It's only funny because he's a cockroach that'll never die. He'll be doing this Satan shit years after we're all dead.

It's totally true. But King has already fucked off and started releasing shit with that jackoff from Dimmu Borgir.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-19 01:17:18 Reply

At 2/18/10 07:50 PM, AniMetal wrote:
At 2/18/10 07:31 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Dunno, cause even if I did list a lot of bands, he still kept saying melodeath was shit...
No offense, but almost all the time you listed bands back then to defend melodic death metal you would always list metalcore bands.

With a few exceptions of course.

I don't know...
Darkane, Nightrage, Kalmah, Profugus Mortis, Wintersun...
These were the bands I would always list when talking about melodeath. Sometimes I would just put All That Remains in the list, but thats the only one...
Soilwork and Scar Symmetry were some of my favorite melodeath (gothenburg metal) bands...
And I know he hated those.
But these kids go around saying how much The Black Dahlia Murder is awesome and all. I know they are ok, but they are faaaar more core than all the melodeath things I was really into back then :P


Also, I know you're a fan but is it just me or does Threat Signal's second album suck balls compared to their first?

It does. It sucks... a few songs have a few interresting elements. But overall... it sucks. The vocals are nothing like what they used to be...

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-19 01:29:55 Reply

At 2/19/10 01:17 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Darkane, Nightrage, Kalmah, Profugus Mortis, Wintersun...

All good stuff, but I can still understand why you wouldn't like them.

Soilwork and Scar Symmetry were some of my favorite melodeath (gothenburg metal) bands...
And I know he hated those.

Mih, my opinions on this style of melodeath varies on my mood.

But these kids go around saying how much The Black Dahlia Murder is awesome and all. I know they are ok, but they are faaaar more core than all the melodeath things I was really into back then :P

I don't even consider them metal, that's how shittie and core-influenced they are.

It does. It sucks... a few songs have a few interresting elements. But overall... it sucks. The vocals are nothing like what they used to be...

The vocals i've always hated, but in this album the instrumental sucks also.

Which is weird cause it was so great in the first album.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-19 01:46:56 Reply

At 2/19/10 01:29 AM, AniMetal wrote:
The vocals i've always hated, but in this album the instrumental sucks also.

Hate them? I think they were fitting the music perfectly. The instrumental was sweet. One of the rare bands to use breakdowns properly. And at least they are not singing about drinking beer and breaking necks.


Which is weird cause it was so great in the first album.

And I'm the one who likes metalcore? lol :P

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-19 02:00:17 Reply

At 2/19/10 01:46 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Hate them? I think they were fitting the music perfectly. The instrumental was sweet. One of the rare bands to use breakdowns properly. And at least they are not singing about drinking beer and breaking necks.

The vocals are a constant reminder of that metalcore influence and of that blatant "We'll make real music, but we still wanna be popular in the mainstream"

So yeah, I can't stand the vocals.


Which is weird cause it was so great in the first album.
And I'm the one who likes metalcore? lol :P

I used to be a huge metal/hard/emo/deathcore faggot back early 2005 till late 2007.

Today I only like two albums that could be deemed metalcore to an extent: Threat Signal's debut album and Sylosis's only album, both of which could be argued as melodic death metal.

So yeah. :P

Also, unlike you I never tried to defend core in this thread back when I did like it. ;)


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-19 02:49:41 Reply

Found out my buddy has cancer somewhere in his throat tonight. They don't know if the cancer is on his thyroid or not. Also, his dad whom had a liver transplant recently because he was on his deathbed and after quite a bit of time of doing better and getting healthier his body is rejecting the liver right now. So pretty fucking lame. That family never seems to get a fucking break.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-19 03:37:01 Reply

At 2/19/10 02:00 AM, AniMetal wrote:
The vocals are a constant reminder of that metalcore influence and of that blatant "We'll make real music, but we still wanna be popular in the mainstream"

It sucks that you have to try to fit. Just as you blame them for trying to be popular, you are trying so hard to be true, it's almost ridiculous. A kind of vocal is not bad only because bands with these kind of vocals are more popular. Also, you like power metal, power metal can get very close to mainstream music, if not just dive completely into it like Avantasia did.

I used to be a huge metal/hard/emo/deathcore faggot back early 2005 till late 2007.

And now you are so true and kvlt

Also, unlike you I never tried to defend core in this thread back when I did like it. ;)

You remember what I said about pride? Metalcore is alright cause it led me into metal and into the genre of music I like the most. I couldn't just shit on my origins and my past experiences because they made me what I am today. So if you ask me if I like core today. I will give you the same answer I gave a hundred times: Yes, I like core. But I admit that something like 95% of what is done in core music is horrible.... Alesana... Bring Me The Horizon... and so many shits I can't even bother to think about...

Threat Signal is one of these bands I really like. Through The Eyes Of The Dead, while still being death metal, do include some core elements in their stuff. All That Remains, The Human Abstract and others like this.

So, metal

I recently bought Dopethrone by Electric Wizard
and Echoes Of Decimation by Origin.

So for the last weeks I have been listenning to both of these albums way too much. I thought it was quite funny that I would listen to the slowest of Stoner Doom Metal and then switch to the Most brutal, technical and fast death metal stuff. Big contrast there :P

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-19 06:13:45 Reply

At 2/19/10 03:37 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: It sucks that you have to try to fit. Just as you blame them for trying to be popular,

Well trying to be popular isn't something bad.

But they're trying to be popular in both the melodeath community and the core community.

Basically, they wanna be In Flames.

A kind of vocal is not bad only because bands with these kind of vocals are more popular.

Well these kind of vocals are just annoying, not the kind of death metal vocals I like.

And I saw TS live, his clean vocals suck balls in real life.

power metal can get very close to mainstream music

Sonata Arctica which has a fanbase in the pop community and Dragonforce which made an astounding leap to fame, not really.

Look at Michael Kiske of Helloween back in the day, he's been in countless rock and pop groups since and every single one has been a failure.

if not just dive completely into it like Avantasia did.

The metal opera albums were far more mainstream than the scarecrow.

Seriously, just pure mainstream power metal built around the premiums of gathering other musicians to guest sing a verse each.

The Scarecrow at least tries to be meaningful.


I used to be a huge metal/hard/emo/deathcore faggot back early 2005 till late 2007.
And now you are so true and kvlt

Haha i'm not big into black metal and whatnot.

I've always been more into the cleaner stuff anyway.


You remember what I said about pride? Metalcore is alright cause it led me into metal and into the genre of music I like the most. I couldn't just shit on my origins and my past experiences because they made me what I am today.

Are you kidding? If you don't shit on who you were years ago you'll never grow.

Why would you respect yourself years earlier despite all the mistakes and bad choices you've made? No you're supposed to hate who you've been and inspire to be far better than that.

You're not going to say in 30 years "Boy i really respect myself as a 17 year old"

So, metal

I recently bought Dopethrone by Electric Wizard
and Echoes Of Decimation by Origin.

Very weird combo there, but still fucking great choices.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-19 10:26:56 Reply

So, does anyone know any good symphonic black metal bands? I've been listening to a lot of black metal lately, yet I seem to be more into the symphonic stuff, like Anorexia Nervosa, Dimmu Borgir, etc.

Any good recommendations?

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-19 11:00:51 Reply

At 2/18/10 02:32 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: Does it bug the fuck out of anyone else when a shit band has the same name of a band that you love?

It definitely would if I had any bands like that. The closest for me is Helloween's first album Walls of Jericho sharing the same name as a metalcore band. Good thing I hardly hear about that band, though.

At 2/18/10 06:36 PM, AniMetal wrote: Bahamut because he is the best poster in the thread right now, by far.

Haha, that's great to hear! :D


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-19 12:53:11 Reply

At 2/19/10 11:00 AM, Bahamut wrote: Haha, that's great to hear! :D

You'd be down at our level if you posted more often. We want more than one Bahamut post a day :P.

Also Duff, Dopethrone ain't slow, it's pretty fast as far as Doom goes ;).


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At 2/19/10 12:53 PM, Nev wrote:
At 2/19/10 11:00 AM, Bahamut wrote: Haha, that's great to hear! :D
You'd be down at our level if you posted more often. We want more than one Bahamut post a day :P.

Yeah, but he does that thing where he replies to a number of posts that are relevant to his interests at once.

Which shall now be known as the 'Bahamut Post'.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-19 15:14:36 Reply

any one who likes melodic death metal should like Mors Principium Est

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNP68roEQ BY

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-19 17:28:42 Reply

Got my hands on a leak of Belus. Sounds great. Varg's voice sounds better now than it did before. Can't wait till my pre-order comes.

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At 2/19/10 12:53 PM, Nev wrote: Also Duff, Dopethrone ain't slow, it's pretty fast as far as Doom goes ;).

One of my favorite things about stoner metal is that it's slower than regular metal, but not ponderously slow like other doom. Moderate.

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At 2/19/10 06:13 AM, AniMetal wrote:
At 2/19/10 03:37 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: It sucks that you have to try to fit. Just as you blame them for trying to be popular,
Well trying to be popular isn't something bad.

But they're trying to be popular in both the melodeath community and the core community.

Basically, they wanna be In Flames.

I don't know why you are assuming that they want to be popular in both communities. In fact a lot of bands are not even aware of how they are classified. I heard one of Despised Icon's vocalists during an interview say that his band is a death metal band. Even if they are deathcore in the most obvious way.
And you simply cannot compare Under Reprisal to Come Clarity or A Sense Of Purpose. In Flames have gone core in the worst possible way and Threat Signal are one of the rare bands to make good core.


Sonata Arctica which has a fanbase in the pop community and Dragonforce which made an astounding leap to fame, not really.
Look at Michael Kiske of Helloween back in the day, he's been in countless rock and pop groups since and every single one has been a failure.

The fact that he failed with pop bands isn't making power metal less pop sounding.
I remember the time in high school when I could ear stupid bitches complainning about how metal was agressive and bad. But when I would ask if they like Stratovarius they would all go "Yeah they are very good!!"

I think that Power Metal is the most commercial metal genre. Which is not making them less good or less innovative. In fact I like power metal, but I just see them as easy-listenning metal.

The metal opera albums were far more mainstream than the scarecrow.

How is that?

Seriously, just pure mainstream power metal built around the premiums of gathering other musicians to guest sing a verse each.

The Scarecrow is pretty much the same... I mean... Alice Cooper, Kamelot's vocalist... that girl in "What kind of love", Michael Kiske.

The Scarecrow at least tries to be meaningful.

I really like The Scarecrow, but you should go read some of the reviews about it on Metal-Archives. Not everybody seems to find "meaning" in the work of Tobias Sammet.

Are you kidding? If you don't shit on who you were years ago you'll never grow.

So everytime you look back you think: "What a fucking douche I was!"
What are you going to do when at 80 years old you will look back and say: "What a fucking douche I was!"
You will realise how your life sucked and how much you never trusted in yourself.
I won't diss all the bands that got me first into metal... Kalmah, Slipknot, CoB. They may not be my favorite today, but why should I brag about how fucking nice I am today compared to how stupid I was back then?

Why would you respect yourself years earlier despite all the mistakes and bad choices you've made? No you're supposed to hate who you've been and inspire to be far better than that.

Cause you didn't make "just" bad choices.

Very weird combo there, but still fucking great choices.

Even for a power fag? :P

At 2/19/10 10:26 AM, mothballs wrote: So, does anyone know any good symphonic black metal bands? I've been listening to a lot of black metal lately, yet I seem to be more into the symphonic stuff, like Anorexia Nervosa, Dimmu Borgir, etc.

Any good recommendations?

black metal or sbm?

SBM:
Abigail Williams
Illnath
Dark Forest
Anthelion
The Kovenant

Black metal:
Ulver
Wolves In The Throne Room
Agalloch (albums: From Which Of This Oak, Pale Folklore)
Burzum
Xasthur
Balrog
Gorgoroth
Drudkh
Primordial

At 2/19/10 12:53 PM, Nev wrote:
Also Duff, Dopethrone ain't slow, it's pretty fast as far as Doom goes ;).

Think Big Brother and stfu

Also, can't believe i forgot to mention Martyr when I was talking about great metal bands from Quebec. These kids are sick freakin fucks. Only thing I don't like about them is their vocals. Other than this, it's pretty fucking cool :)

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-19 23:52:55 Reply

At 2/19/10 07:39 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: black metal or sbm? listlol

Yeah, I meant SBM, I wasn't being clear enough, but thanks a lot. I'm really enjoying Abigail Williams.

I think instead of finding new bands when I'm running out of music, i'll just check out more albums on the current bands that I'm listening to.