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Can we stop the argueing about metalcore and move on please? This place was good untill that happened.

At 11/8/09 09:56 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Can we stop the argueing about metalcore and move on please? This place was good untill that happened.

How about we make fun of metalcore instead?

At 11/8/09 08:16 PM, Nev wrote: And Ani will argue about Symphony X's differences, but they're incredibly alike. And Russell is a way better singer.

They are very different bands.

The main reason being that Symphony X has all the power metal influences in the world, as Dream Theater has very, very few - if any.

At 11/8/09 08:43 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: I'd add Gorod

Gorod are a lot more less progressive than the others, I'd classify them as Tech Death.

At 11/8/09 10:32 PM, AniMetal wrote: The main reason being that Symphony X has all the power metal influences in the world, as Dream Theater has very, very few - if any.

Nah, they're still EXACTLY the same :P.

Does it really matter if anyone here enjoys Metalcore in the slightest? I could care less.

At 11/8/09 04:22 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I think Symphonic Black Metal can be good. Maybe SBM as too many gay Icon bands...
like Cradle Of Filth and Dimmu Borgir.

Are Cradle of Filth even meant to be black metal in the slightest? I never even listened to that much Cradle of Filth to find any black metal elements.

At 11/8/09 04:54 PM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: Wow even you guys argue about genres, I though that was limited to the youtube fags :p

Last.fm would have been more appropriate. Last time I even tortured myself to this crap, artist shoutboxes had a fair amount of genre debates.

At 11/9/09 11:00 AM, Bahamut wrote: Does it really matter if anyone here enjoys Metalcore in the slightest? I could care less.

All That Remains are one of my favourite bands lulz. and I love The Human Abstract and Parkway Drive :3

I prefer heavier stuff though, like The Black Dahlia Murder (favourite band), Amon Amarth, Death, Children Of Bodom, Windir etc.

At 11/8/09 10:20 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 11/8/09 09:56 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Can we stop the argueing about metalcore and move on please? This place was good untill that happened.

How about we make fun of metalcore instead?

How about make fun of you? That is deathcore don't compare both, you can't compare All That Remains and Bring Me The Horizon... well I'll not say I don't like Bring Me The Horizon, but I am not a special fan, they don't arouse any emotion in me, I just can't understand their music and it's all... "PRAY FOR PLAGUES, RAWR! RAWR! RAWR! stuff... RAAAAAWWWWWR! RAWR RAWR! PRAY FOR PLAGUES! RAWR RAWR!" Also they have a song called "Rawr"... wtf?

At 11/9/09 12:00 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: Also they have a song called "Rawr"... wtf?

I like your description of their songs xD

They're really just crappy metalcore compared to other bands like ATR, PWD etc.

At 11/9/09 12:00 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote:

At 11/8/09 10:20 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 11/8/09 09:56 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Can we stop the argueing about metalcore and move on please? This place was good untill that happened.

How about we make fun of metalcore instead?

How about make fun of you? That is deathcore don't compare both

Deathcore is an amalgamation of two musical styles: metalcore and death metal.

At 11/9/09 01:43 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: Deathcore is an amalgamation of two musical styles: metalcore and death metal.

It's different anyway, and you still can't compare...

Metalcore bores me. It always has. I can't think of a time in which I ever truly, genuinely liked it.

Blargh...also, I missed Vader and Decrepit Birth a couple of nights ago for financial and work-related reasons. I'll be lucky if I can even make it to one more gig before the year's up.

At 11/9/09 01:57 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote:

At 11/9/09 01:43 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: Deathcore is an amalgamation of two musical styles: metalcore and death metal.

It's different anyway, and you still can't compare...

No, you can.

In the same way you can compare Folk metal with clean vocals and folk metal with unclean vocals.

Modern warefare 2 comes out tonight!!! Im so stoked.

Mayhem-Chainsaw gutsFuck

At 11/9/09 01:57 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote:

At 11/9/09 01:43 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: Deathcore is an amalgamation of two musical styles: metalcore and death metal.

It's different anyway, and you still can't compare...

It's not different. The only difference between metalcore and deathcore is the death metal influences in deathcore. Other than that, the two genres make use of screamed vocals and one-note breakdowns.

At 11/9/09 01:57 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: It's different anyway, and you still can't compare...

That's like saying you can't compare black metal and death metal because they're different. The whole point of comparing things is to either show how similar they are, or how different they are. If we couldn't compare things that are different, then there would be no point in doing any comparisons.

And for the record, deathcore and metalcore are pretty similar.

Gonna ask for some recommendations for some melodic death bands, it's pretty much the genre I most frequently listen to. Here are the bands that I currently listen to, just so you don't recommend me something I already know:

Insomnium (My current favorite)
Kataklysm
In Flames
Arch Enemy (heard somewhere they are melo death)
Meshuggah

That's about all I know (at least, the ones I listen to most) so someone please recommend me others.

At 11/9/09 07:45 PM, mothballs wrote: Gonna ask for some recommendations for some melodic death bands, it's pretty much the genre I most frequently listen to. Here are the bands that I currently listen to, just so you don't recommend me something I already know:

Insomnium (My current favorite)
Kataklysm
In Flames
Arch Enemy (heard somewhere they are melo death)
Meshuggah

That's about all I know (at least, the ones I listen to most) so someone please recommend me others.

I hear Soilwork is pretty good, but I don't know much about them. Amon Amarth is good (not sure if they're melodeath) and definately check out Gojira if you like Meshuggah. Into Eternity is another good melodeath band (with progressive leanings), but don't get their newest album, it sucks.

At 11/9/09 07:45 PM, mothballs wrote: Gonna ask for some recommendations for some melodic death bands, it's pretty much the genre I most frequently listen to. Here are the bands that I currently listen to, just so you don't recommend me something I already know:

Insomnium (My current favorite)
Kataklysm
In Flames
Arch Enemy (heard somewhere they are melo death)
Meshuggah

That's about all I know (at least, the ones I listen to most) so someone please recommend me others.

The Absence, Scar Symmetry, are my two favorite melodic death metal bands. Definitely check them out.

Best video ever. Ever.

Baroness

So I finally got around to checking out Devin Townsend. I got Ziltoid the Omniscient which was pretty fun the first time through but barely any of the songs had a lasting effect on me. I love the song The Greys though. A lot. I'm going to check out his other stuff.

Also Kroda. Their album Cry to Me,River is some excellent black/folk. Kind of like Falkenbach but less cheesy.

At 11/9/09 07:45 PM, mothballs wrote: Gonna ask for some recommendations for some melodic death bands, it's pretty much the genre I most frequently listen to. Here are the bands that I currently listen to, just so you don't recommend me something I already know:

Insomnium (My current favorite)
Kataklysm
In Flames
Arch Enemy (heard somewhere they are melo death)
Meshuggah

That's about all I know (at least, the ones I listen to most) so someone please recommend me others.

Carcass, Kalmah, At the Gates, and Hypocrisy.

Also Meshuggah is experimental, not melodic death metal.

Talk/discuss/argue/bitch/shit on METAL here.

Talk/discuss/argue/bitch/shit on NU-METAL/METALCORE/CORE/CORECORE here.

yes, i purposely wrote corecore.

At 11/8/09 04:27 PM, Nev wrote:

Check out some Merzbow :D.

I'll do just that. Which album would you recommand, cause there is a lot in his discography.

At 11/8/09 05:33 PM, Nev wrote:

Turn on a radio and tune it to no station. That horrible cracking/buzzing is white noise.

That's what I thought it was. But how can it be good if it's always the same... maybe I just don't get it.

At 11/8/09 07:31 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

I love it when people make that typo while trying to act smarter than others.

Are you pretending I'm trying to act smarter than others because I don't take insults?

At 11/9/09 12:00 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote:

How about make fun of you? That is deathcore don't compare both, you can't compare All That Remains and Bring Me The Horizon... well I'll not say I don't like Bring Me The Horizon, but I am not a special fan, they don't arouse any emotion in me, I just can't understand their music and it's all... "PRAY FOR PLAGUES, RAWR! RAWR! RAWR! stuff... RAAAAAWWWWWR! RAWR RAWR! PRAY FOR PLAGUES! RAWR RAWR!" Also they have a song called "Rawr"... wtf?

You are wasting your time my dear friend. Even if they are total opposites... they'll still classify all that as core elements as metalcore. You are right dude, these two bands just are very different.
But I've been there... I've tried to defend core in the metal hell and a lot of people just won't accept the fact that there is some good core music. But you really shouldn't give a damn. Stick to who you are and let them talk.

such classifications seem unnessecary

At 11/10/09 02:50 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: But I've been there... I've tried to defend core in the metal hell and a lot of people just won't accept the fact that there is some good core music.

It's not that we don't accept some of the bands are 'good'. We just don't accept them as Metal.

At 11/9/09 07:45 PM, mothballs wrote: Insomnium (My current favorite)
Kataklysm
In Flames
Arch Enemy (heard somewhere they are melo death)
Meshuggah

The Black Dahlia Murder (<3)
Children Of Bodom
Amon Amarth
Hypocrisy
Sylosis

Possessed by the twilight at the tunnels of hell Breathe the dead fog and taste the abyss you dwell March on hollow ground and break the knife if it falls Fight until death enjoy the end, hear the call Heedless we feast but the food chain we lead A predator's reign is all what it needs Reacting the cult feel the powers it bares Devestation at dawn will feed hell's spawn...
Satan's Soldiers Syndicate!

Anyone here likes Desaster?

At 11/9/09 07:45 PM, mothballs wrote: Gonna ask for some recommendations for some melodic death bands, it's pretty much the genre I most frequently listen to. Here are the bands that I currently listen to, just so you don't recommend me something I already know:

Whispered. They've only released 4 songs so far, but their first full length album is being released this year.

At 11/9/09 12:00 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: Bring Me The Horizon...

Oh yeah, I decided to see how bad they are and...Yeah, they suck. It sounded like a complete mess.

At 11/9/09 11:26 PM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: Talk/discuss/argue/bitch/shit on NU-METAL/METALCORE/CORE/CORECORE here.

Yes but we seem to have more fun talking about them here anyway, especially when it comes to how much some hate them.