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Rediscovered Om today. I love their music, but the songs are so damn long that it discourages me from listening to them. You sort of need to have a designated time to listen to them, I feel.

At 10/15/09 09:43 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 10/15/09 02:52 PM, batman64 wrote:
Hawkwind.

I know that I'm the one who mentionned If These Trees Could Talk first, but do we really have to make huge rants about "ROCK" bands? I mean, this is the Metal Hell after all, and the only reason why I mentionned ITTCT is because they do sound kind of metalish sometimes... but Hawkwind?... Anyway...

Shut up, Hawkwind rule, and bear a resemblance to metal. If we had to talk about metal all the time, I would stop coming here.

At 10/15/09 10:15 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Rediscovered Om today. I love their music, but the songs are so damn long that it discourages me from listening to them. You sort of need to have a designated time to listen to them, I feel.

koinky dinks. I was listening to them (put all their albums on shuffle) before I went to sleep last night. bass turned all the way up, of course.

At 10/15/09 10:15 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Rediscovered Om today. I love their music, but the songs are so damn long that it discourages me from listening to them. You sort of need to have a designated time to listen to them, I feel.

Don't you like Opeth though?

At 10/15/09 06:41 PM, CapnCrunchDaPimp wrote:

At 10/15/09 06:23 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 10/15/09 04:52 PM, CapnCrunchDaPimp wrote: These all sound really awesome, mind if I check them out too?

NO, YOU CAN'T! NEVER!

Aww, I'm sad now. False hope, crushed.

Sorry Capn, I just don't think you're ready =(

I wish it could be different, but it's just how it's gotta be mate.

<3

Also checked out Novembre, everyone go listen them now if you haven't already! (except Capn :p)

At 10/15/09 02:52 PM, batman64 wrote: To start you off I highly recommend the discs with Lemmy.

Seems like the best option and I will look into the first few albums as you recommended. A relative of mine is into Hawkwind and said he'd try and get some of their music for me but that WAS ages ago. Anyway, thanks again Bill! :)

And one last thing, they have a TON of comp discs, way too many, granted some are good but the rest are the same rehashed material, if you want to get a comp let me know which one and I will let you know if it is worth getting.

I try and avoid compilation albums as much as I can, unless I feel I'm better off with getting one instead of many studio albums. For Hawkwind, I'm sure I'll be good with studio albums, despite how many they have overall.

At 10/15/09 09:43 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: do we really have to make huge rants about "ROCK" bands?

We've talked about other non-metal bands here before. Prog rock's a great example. Also, did you forget when we were all talking about Radiohead a few months ago?

At 10/16/09 01:21 AM, jew193 wrote:

At 10/15/09 10:15 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Rediscovered Om today. I love their music, but the songs are so damn long that it discourages me from listening to them. You sort of need to have a designated time to listen to them, I feel.

Don't you like Opeth though?

I actually don't have any of Opeth's stuff, but Om definitely has Opeth beat in the song length category; Om's songs have an average length of about 15 minutes :P

At 10/16/09 02:03 AM, Oppugnant wrote: Also checked out Novembre, everyone go listen them now if you haven't already! (except Capn :p)

I always think 'Ooh, yes I have heard these'. Then I check iTunes and find it I've listened to Novembers Doom instead :P.

Novembre makes me think its going to be some kind of Death/Doom or something...?

At 10/16/09 09:25 AM, D3NTATUS wrote: I actually don't have any of Opeth's stuff, but Om definitely has Opeth beat in the song length category; Om's songs have an average length of about 15 minutes :P

And despite being about 90% longer the songs are 1000000% more interesting*.

Riiiisseee avviiaaatoor, suuuunnnnn maaayy fooollllllooow!
BA DA DA DA DOOOWW, BA DA DA DA DOOOOW!
Apppeerrrtuurree oon dooorr, the waavee forrmm schoooooool!

* I've gone off Opeth big time.

At 10/16/09 08:14 AM, Bahamut wrote: We've talked about other non-metal bands here before. Prog rock's a great example. Also, did you forget when we were all talking about Radiohead a few months ago?

I always talk about non-Metal bands, mainly because I'm interested in so few at the moment.

Hey guys! I chose Metal Hell to celebrate my 700th post and I want to celebrate this post with Neaera-Prey to Anguish I don't know if you like them but that don't matter, it's MY post :3 lol... I hope you like them or I will cry like a baby.

Sex

Insomia can lead to very strange things. Such as painting your face at 2:00 in the morning.

I was extremey bored.

At 10/16/09 02:47 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Insomia can lead to very strange things. Such as painting your face at 2:00 in the morning.

I was extremey bored.

I just read a shit load of books :P.

I feel like I just discovered a gem.

At 10/16/09 08:45 PM, MudkipsPiano wrote: I feel like I just discovered a gem.

Of course, i've known Deathchain for a while now, they're brutally amazing. I prefer Napalm Satan, but that is one fucking sick song.

Deicide - Standing In the Flames

At 10/15/09 09:50 PM, batman64 wrote: Yeah Hawkwind dumbfuck.
Their stuff with Lemmy is Metalish so fuck off.
I was asked a question and answered it, you got a prob too fucking bad.

wow...

I knew right when I wrote this that you would react as an immature kid. You know what... I have just stated this because you talk about stuff that isn't metal most often than not, and that I think that this is still the Metal Hell. If you can't take criticism, than your the immature kid right there. So fuck off with your "dumbfuck". I don't have a prob with you answering questions. I have a prob with you talking ONLY about rock and early metal. If I'm wrong, than tell me. I can take it. I'm not immature and I don't have that much of an over-sized ego.

At 10/15/09 10:15 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 10/15/09 09:43 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 10/15/09 02:52 PM, batman64 wrote:
Hawkwind.

I know that I'm the one who mentionned If These Trees Could Talk first, but do we really have to make huge rants about "ROCK" bands? I mean, this is the Metal Hell after all, and the only reason why I mentionned ITTCT is because they do sound kind of metalish sometimes... but Hawkwind?... Anyway...

Shut up, Hawkwind rule, and bear a resemblance to metal. If we had to talk about metal all the time, I would stop coming here.

Did I say we shouldn't talk about anything else than metal? Never in the past I've said anything like that. Batman, from what I see, can't stand most of today's metal bands. But tell me if I'm wrong. If he can proove that he's Agalloch, Ulver, Behemoth, Kreator or The Morningside's greatest fan in the world. Than FINE. I will apologize and admit that he respect what we like and that he like's it. Than fine. I am no troll... I am no dumbfuck...

If they are metal than fine, if they influence metal than fine. And if batman likes stuff that influenced metal, than fine. So leave out all the insults. I'm not saying that we should talk only about metal. But if someone come in here and that he cannot appreciate anything else than old-metal and rock... it's just like when you guys told me in the past that I was not fitting in the Metal Hell when my tastes were exclusively Melodic Death Metal. I got your point when you guys told me I should get into more metal to fit in the Hell. Cause it was true.
So yeah, I'm only saying we should only show a kind of interest in metal IN GENERAL (yes, IN GENERAL)

If you dissaproove, than feel free to say it... but please man...
insults are stupid and immature.

thanks a lot.

Troldskog Faren Vild by Ulver

Released from the bondage
Bloodlust is turned to knowledge
I will kill you
Return into the carnage

Sentient forms have risen
Time is an endless prison
You will die
I'll become cold and wizened

You know your place in history
Are you denying I am free?
Any prophet of this new dark age can see

Rise from the tomb of millions
Crawl to become reptilian
I will kill you

Like those who came before you
Life never ceased to bore you
You will die
History will ignore you

Then you'll engage in prophecy
Why can't you handle being free?
Another victim of a slaughter prophecy

No need for ritual slaughter
Bow to the crest of martyrs
You will evolve
But not getting any smarter

You think the truth will set you free
While you're denying what you see
Any prophet of this new dark age can see

I Will Kill You/You Will Die - The Lord Weird Slough Feg

Copying all my files from my external to my internal. 59 gigs left. Huzzah.

At 10/17/09 02:02 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'm not immature and I don't have that much of an over-sized ego.

That's a self-indulgent and a very, VERY opinionated thing to say.

insults are stupid and immature.

But you insult us all the time.

Also, I was listening to the eternal flames of metal last night when I fell asleep.

In my dream I was in a house full of cats and I could hear "THE ETERNAL FLAMES OF KITTIES, BURNING IN OUR CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATS"

I thought it was funny.

At 10/17/09 02:02 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I have a prob with you talking ONLY about rock and early metal.

So what? If thats Bill thang, its Bill thang.
Plus you say its all he talks about (which isn't true, for a start) but you have to think that Bill hardly ever posts. So it's not like your intolerance is a regular occurance.

Idio mainly talks about Stoner Doom, does that bother you too?
Goatchrist mainly talked about Black Metal, did that bother you?

If he can proove that he's Agalloch, Ulver, Behemoth, Kreator or The Morningside's greatest fan in the world. Than FINE. I will apologize and admit that he respect what we like and that he like's it.

So in order for you to respect Bill... he has to like what you like?

If they are metal than fine, if they influence metal than fine. And if batman likes stuff that influenced metal, than fine.

Hmm...

At 10/17/09 06:20 AM, AniMetal wrote: But you insult us all the time.

Not really. He has scraps with Ponos and thats about it. And he used to get upset about -Core, but thats the past now.

The Irrepressibles - Forget the Past (From the Circus... to the Sea)

At 10/16/09 08:45 PM, MudkipsPiano wrote: I feel like I just discovered a gem.

Holy shit.

That is fuckingawesome.

Duff: you have to keep in mind that bill is more than twice your age, and his tastes reflect that. He grew up with "old metal and rock" and he was with it from the start. We shouldn't disregard bill's opinions because he likes Motorhead more than recent bands (or any other bands).

Just found this band today, don't know if they're popular or not but according to the views they look underrated.

And before anybody thinks of not clicking on the link, the band is The Scourger.

Ok Duff, here we go.
First off I apologize for calling you a dumbfuck, It was wrong and I'm sorry.
Now regarding Hawkwind,Yes, They are metalish with Lemmy and have influenced plenty of Bands and have played festivals with metal acts like Anvil, Saxon, and Vardis to name a few. I like to consider them a metal band with synthesizers and the occaisional violin, sax, and flute.
Have you ever listened to them?
Try it, you just may like it.
Now I have very RARELY talked about Rock in here and in fact I am one of the first to complain if the topic sways off metal for too long of a period.
And I love plenty of the newer bands, check my post history.
I have raved about Mastodon, Baroness, Manowar's Gods of War album, Ministry, Mammatus, Heavy Lord, Pentegram(granted old band but they kick ass) Sleep, And various Viking, Doom, Stoner and thrash bands.
In fact I used to sing in a thrash band and I appear on Nuclear Blast's first release, The Senseless Death compilation doing backups with Impulse Manslaughter as well as writing some songs with Death Squad and Impulse Manslaughter.
I just don't love Metal bro, I live it.
Granted my tastes tend to favor older bands, that's what I grew up with.
Just like everyone here prefers what they grew up with, it's just personal tastes.
And for most new bands I have not checked out there is a very good reason: Lack of funds.
Raising 2 sons it's kinda hard to build a cd collection when bills need to be paid, let alone going to a concert. I mean it usually comes down to COncert or eat for a week. So yeah it sucks that I have not been to a concert in over 2 years but that's just the way it is.
And yeah I love Motorhead, so what? Plenty in here do too, they just have a place in my life is all.
And I love what Ulver I have heard thanks to Ghoul.
Now I have said this before and will probably say it again, I hate most Black Metal due to the lyrical content or lack of musicianship. But I have heard and love some Black Metal like Behemoth and the like. I prefer musicianship and intelligent lyrics.
I love a lot of different styles of metal bro, I keep my mind open.
So yeah I come in here to learn about new bands, share stories and teach you guys about your roots when possible.
So that about wraps up my rant, again I apologize for my calling you a dumbfuck.
Please though, Don't EVER accuse me of not liking new metal or just talking bout rock or old metal for that is far from the actuality.
So all said, Keep it heavy.
Peace

At 10/17/09 06:20 AM, AniMetal wrote:

At 10/17/09 02:02 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'm not immature and I don't have that much of an over-sized ego.

That's a self-indulgent and a very, VERY opinionated thing to say.

Why? Cause having opinions on myself is bad?

insults are stupid and immature.

But you insult us all the time.

Wait... what? I apologize if I ever hurt anybody here. That never was the point of any of my posts.

At first I thought about making a huge reply to what you said Bill. But I think I'm the one who missjudged you. I remember you said that a lot of today's metal was shit and that may have been the thing that pushed me to just fight back and leave a useless comment about you not talking about metal music. But I guess I was just wrong. I missjudged you and for this I apologize. So let's move on guys. I guess that really just was a waste of time. Except for the fact that I learned a little more about someone in the Metal Hell.

Em... just so we can leave this all behind. Could you give me some suggestions of bands from your favorites?

At 10/17/09 05:31 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I remember you said that a lot of today's metal was shit...

If I remember correctly, I think that was on the topic of Machine Head or Slipknot or *name band we don't care about in here* :).

At 10/17/09 06:20 AM, AniMetal wrote:

At 10/17/09 02:02 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'm not immature and I don't have that much of an over-sized ego.

That's a self-indulgent and a very, VERY opinionated thing to say.

No offense, but you're a cocky motherfucker yourself.

On an unrelated note to the arguments, I got myself Electric Wizard's Dopethrone today. Perhaps this could be the beginning of myself getting into Stoner Metal. OK, I did try Sleep's Dopesmoker ages ago but I didn't particularly enjoy it due to the unnecessary length. This album on the other hand, I'm liking this.

I have yet another band reccomendation: Blood Tsunami. They seem to be pretty obscure, with only 1 album out, but it kicks major ass. I'm not quite sure what to call them, considering their instrument style is more thrash, but their vocals are a mix between black metal and death metal. So... Blackened Death Thrash Metal? Is that a genre, if not, it is now.

not really into into many metal subgenres. I like power metal, some thrash, progressive, and just a tiny bit of industrial. These are the bands I listen to with some frequency

Children of Bodom
Insania (Stockholm)
Iced Earth
Rammstein
Oomph!
Symphony X
Steel Prophet
Megadeth
Metallica
HammerFall
Mago de Oz
Nightwish
Pantera
Jag Panzer

I can listen to death metal but I will not like it very much. There's a few songs here and there that I like. In the end, I'm more of a hard/classic rock dude.

At 10/17/09 06:13 PM, Bahamut wrote: On an unrelated note to the arguments, I got myself Electric Wizard's Dopethrone today. Perhaps this could be the beginning of myself getting into Stoner Metal. OK, I did try Sleep's Dopesmoker ages ago but I didn't particularly enjoy it due to the unnecessary length. This album on the other hand, I'm liking this.

I struggle listening to Dopethrone because of the length. Plus I mainly feel in the mood for it whilst I'm waking through supermarkets, so I only ever get as far as Weird Tales - and then I just listen to Dopethrone as the song is fantastic.

Dopesmoker didn't do it for me either. Not because of the length, I just didn't find its monotony as engaging as I do with Om or Sunn O))) or something.

And really Stoner ain't my bad. I'm not into grooves much, I prefer soul crushing misery :).

At 10/17/09 06:06 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: No offense, but you're a cocky motherfucker yourself.

Hahaha I never said I wasn't.