time signatures

[dontpanic01]

In what way is 12/4 different from 12/8?

[maccormack]

Why on earth are you doing 12/4?
Thats just three measures of 4/4.

[Buoy]

There doesn't need to be an audible difference, but notation and stuff might look nicer if you use 12/8 than 12/4 etc. And since you only count each quarter note in 12/4 as opposed to each eight note in 12/8, using 12/4 kinda suggests a slower tempo

At 1/18/11 12:02 PM, maccormack wrote: Why on earth are you doing 12/4?
Thats just three measures of 4/4.

if you're doing 4/4 you're probably grouping the bars in fours too anyway, so just calling it 12/4 might be convenient

[Buoy]

At 1/18/11 12:06 PM, SBB wrote: so just calling it 12/4 might be convenient

*if you're grouping them as three bars of 4/4

[dontpanic01]

thank you clearing that up

[maccormack]

Yeah, true. Just seems a bit odd unless you're doing polyrhythms or something else that really justifies it. Its not really easier for scoring or much of anything else.

[FountainHammer]

At 1/18/11 12:06 PM, SBB wrote: There doesn't need to be an audible difference, but notation and stuff might look nicer if you use 12/8 than 12/4 etc. And since you only count each quarter note in 12/4 as opposed to each eight note in 12/8, using 12/4 kinda suggests a slower tempo

whoa wait, i['m confused...

[Quarl]

it's easier to understand when your playing an instrument. the higher number means your dividing faster thus making the tempo faster.

[MillsApparatus]

12/8 would have an entirely different groove than something in 4 time.

[Buoy]

At 1/19/11 08:08 PM, MillsApparatus wrote: 12/8 would have an entirely different groove than something in 4 time.

or it could just be faster or no different at all.

[HighBallers]

they're just fractions to divide up the beats.

5/4 is one thing......3/4 is another. but when you do 12/4 and 12/8 that means your counting all the way up to 12......for no reason. Its just easier to keep it at ONE and TWO and THREE and FOUR and.

[Breed]

Top number is the number of beats of the bottom number. The bottom number is usually 2, 4, 8, or 16--meaning half note, quarter note, eighth note, 16th note. The notes are then broken into 2, 3, or 4 sections depending on if it's a duple, triple, or quadruple signature.

There's plenty of reasons to write in 12/8 guys....namely that you have the first compound quadruple meter where the beats are built into dotted quarters....this means you can have a triplet feel within a quadruple timing. Very common.

12/4 is completely different from 3 bars of 4/4/, because 12/4 isn't a quadruple meter, it is more likely a compound triple meter build on whole notes...less practical then 12/8 but completely different accent notes and beat.

[poopr1221]

I would use 12/4 / 12/8 if I wanted to make a song with a mixed meter. Like, 2 bars of 3/4, one bar of 2/4, and one bar of 4/4 to make 12/4.

[Breed]

At 1/20/11 04:02 PM, NegativeInfinity wrote: Does anybody knows how a 9/8 works?

Cause I've been trying to figure out this song that is suppposed to be on 9/8

9/8 is a compound triple meter, this means that the beat is divided into 3 sections of 3 eighth notes. Most commonly used in irish folk songs, but also shows its face in progressive rock here and there and of course experimental.

[Buoy]

At 1/20/11 04:12 PM, LogicalDefiance wrote:

At 1/20/11 04:02 PM, NegativeInfinity wrote: Does anybody knows how a 9/8 works?

Cause I've been trying to figure out this song that is suppposed to be on 9/8

9/8 is a compound triple meter, this means that the beat is divided into 3 sections of 3 eighth notes. Most commonly used in irish folk songs, but also shows its face in progressive rock here and there and of course experimental.

Yeah usually it's that. Though sometimes it's basically alternating bars of 4/8 and 5/8, or simply 4/4 with an added eight note.

[Breed]

At 1/20/11 04:40 PM, SBB wrote:

At 1/20/11 04:12 PM, LogicalDefiance wrote:

At 1/20/11 04:02 PM, NegativeInfinity wrote: Does anybody knows how a 9/8 works?

Cause I've been trying to figure out this song that is suppposed to be on 9/8

9/8 is a compound triple meter, this means that the beat is divided into 3 sections of 3 eighth notes. Most commonly used in irish folk songs, but also shows its face in progressive rock here and there and of course experimental.

Yeah usually it's that. Though sometimes it's basically alternating bars of 4/8 and 5/8, or simply 4/4 with an added eight note.

Theoretically that would just be sycopation of a 9/8 meter, but the natural/conventional beat is still triple for it. You could break it up into any number of things if you like, you could do 2/4 and 5/8, you could do 2/8 and 3/4, etc etc....I'm not trying to invalidate what you're saying though, there is a lot to meters and rhythm that often goes undiscussed

[Breed]

Especially around newgrounds where 99% of music is four to the floor

[dontpanic01]

on a related note if you know a song that is in an irrational time signature link it to me, I am curious as to what it sounds like.

[paradimensional]

At 1/21/11 11:27 PM, dontpanic01 wrote: on a related note if you know a song that is in an irrational time signature link it to me, I am curious as to what it sounds like.

http://ostimusic.com/audio/RedlineBBC.m3 u

:D

[dontpanic01]

thank you so much

[sugarsimon]

What is your different?

At 1/18/11 11:57 AM, dontpanic01 wrote: In what way is 12/4 different from 12/8?

what is 12/4 or 12/8 is that?

[paradimensional]

At 1/23/11 07:07 AM, sugarsimon wrote: What is your different?

At 1/18/11 11:57 AM, dontpanic01 wrote: In what way is 12/4 different from 12/8?

what is 12/4 or 12/8 is that?

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