Atheism. What's the fucking point?

[Engimal]

I hate Atheists with a passion. Now, before you say anything, I'm of no religion myself. But the fact that anyone would describe them self as Atheist just confuses me.

I don't believe in a God. But that doesn't give me the right to be in a special group that says: "By the way, the beliefs and that way you live your life are wrong."

I'll forever remain non-religious because, though I know there's no God, I respect others decision to believe to.

Atheism=/=Beliefs in science.
Atheism=/=Arsehole.

[phrozonfire]

So you and I are both Agnostics?

[yurgenburgen]

At 12/27/10 04:00 AM, Engimal wrote: the fact that anyone would describe them self as Atheist just confuses me.

Because it's a word that accurately describes some people. That's what words are for.

I don't believe in a God.

Then you are an atheist whether you acknowledge it or not.

But that doesn't give me the right to be in a special group that says: "By the way, the beliefs and that way you live your life are wrong."

Nobody is claiming that it does.

I'll forever remain non-religious because, though I know there's no God, I respect others decision to believe to.

Hats off.

[SpaceWhale]

You're generalizing. I am an Atheist, but I don't run around to Christians saying, "Man, you sure are a dumbass." Hell, I hate Atheists, but only the ones that rub it in your face. I'm not that kind of Atheist.

[psycho-squirrel]

Anyone that hates anyone is stupid

[Engimal]

At 12/27/10 04:03 AM, phrozonfire wrote: So you and I are both Agnostics?

"Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims-especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims-is unknown or unknowable."

So no. I just don't understand why some people think they have to joina group saying that someone else beliefs are wrong. Why not let them be?

[Gagsy]

I'm an atheist yet I am jealous of people with belief in faith, because it is something I actually yearn for but cannot force myself to believe in.

I also believe that Christianity has some good teachings and I'm not disappointed or ashamed of anyone I know and like believing in a God because it can be a positive thing in their life.

So fuck you with your generalizing.

[Engimal]

At 12/27/10 04:08 AM, Space-Whale wrote: You're generalizing. I am an Atheist, but I don't run around to Christians saying, "Man, you sure are a dumbass." Hell, I hate Atheists, but only the ones that rub it in your face. I'm not that kind of Atheist.

So why be in a group that only exists to say that you reject someone's lifelong beliefs?

[SpaceWhale]

At 12/27/10 04:09 AM, Engimal wrote: So no. I just don't understand why some people think they have to join a group saying that someone else beliefs are wrong. Why not let them be?

Because god forbid (no pun intended) somebody think somebody else is wrong.

[Rocksbury]

You just confused the fuck outta me. Im a christian and I respect you for standing up for my ability to believe what I want. By you still you can let assholes be assholes. Im pretty sure they're just trolls anyway. If anyone said that to me in real life they know for a fact I'd punch them in the face really fucking hard. You're thread is pointless and this is now a +1 post dumping grounds starting... now

[MJOLNIRchief90]

At 12/27/10 04:09 AM, Engimal wrote: So no. I just don't understand why some people think they have to joina group saying that someone else beliefs are wrong. Why not let them be?

By that logic identifying yourself as part of any religion is wrong because you're saying everyone is wrong but you.

[Supasang]

At 12/27/10 04:00 AM, Engimal wrote::

I don't believe in a God. But that doesn't give me the right to be in a special group that says: "By the way, the beliefs and that way you live your life are wrong."

I'll forever remain non-religious because, though I know there's no God, I respect others decision to believe to.

Atheism=/=Beliefs in science.
Atheism=/=Arsehole.

So you are a athiest yourself if you dont belive in god so you=Arsehole Do you know that?

[Coop5245]

So are you a nihilist?

[corn-cob]

so.. .... yep

[CalvinGodly]

We really need to get Religion Forum.

[yurgenburgen]

At 12/27/10 04:11 AM, Engimal wrote: So why be in a group that only exists to say that you reject someone's lifelong beliefs?

Atheists aren't any such group. They are not an organisation. There are no leaders, no dogma, no manifesto, no teachings.

At 12/27/10 04:11 AM, killaboy69 wrote: Im a christian
If anyone said that to me in real life they know for a fact I'd punch them in the face really fucking hard.

Or just turn the other cheek.

[Ninjar]

At 12/27/10 04:00 AM, Engimal wrote: I hate Atheists with a passion. Now, before you say anything, I'm of no religion myself. But the fact that anyone would describe them self as Atheist just confuses me.
I don't believe in a God. But that doesn't give me the right to be in a special group that says: "By the way, the beliefs and that way you live your life are wrong."

Everything needs a label. Atheism is a label, just like Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism, etc. They are all "special groups". Each with it's own beliefs (or no belief). Saying you hate Atheists is basically saying you hate anyone who labels their religion. Also, if an Atheism straight up mentions that your religion is wrong, that's his/her opinion, not the opinions of every single Atheist.

I'll forever remain non-religious because, though I know there's no God, I respect others decision to believe to.

You know there's no God. Those who know God know they know there's a God. Knowing is half the battle.

Atheism=/=Beliefs in science.
Atheism=/=Arsehole.

I disagree.

[Engimal]

At 12/27/10 04:11 AM, Space-Whale wrote:

At 12/27/10 04:09 AM, Engimal wrote: So no. I just don't understand why some people think they have to join a group saying that someone else beliefs are wrong. Why not let them be?

Because god forbid (no pun intended) somebody think somebody else is wrong.

Let me put it this way.

Say you're from... I don't know, Hawaii. And some guy goes there and says: "Hang on, I don't like pinapples and sand," or some shit like that. So he fucks off and makes a place called California, and the only reason he made that place is so he could make the Town motto "I dislike sandy pinapples".

You'd be thinking, "Why not let them be?"

[SpaceWhale]

At 12/27/10 04:15 AM, Engimal wrote: Say you're from... I don't know, Hawaii. And some guy goes there and says: "Hang on, I don't like pinapples and sand," or some shit like that. So he fucks off and makes a place called California, and the only reason he made that place is so he could make the Town motto "I dislike sandy pinapples".

You'd be thinking, "Why not let them be?"

Except that's a bad example, for four reasons.

- I'm not from Hawaii.
- I like pineapples and sand.
- California has sand.
- AND FINALLY... Not. All. Atheists. Are. Like. That. And it's not like somebody founded Atheism, and do go saying Charles Darwin did, because he didn't. Atheism is a term for somebody who doesn't believe in a god, so you are an Atheist. I guess you really are what you eat.

[RDSchley]

I'm an Atheist.

...whats so offensive about that if your not religious yourself? I'm not parading it around yelling it to everyone on the street. If I was then yes, it would be offensive. But I'm not, so shut up and go back to living your little lie of Agnostic. You either believe or you don't, not one of this inbetween bullshit trying to be on both sides.

[HungarianSupermarket]

Atheism is a religion in itself. I simply don't believe in anything, and I don't care to poke sticks at people who want to believe in whatever they want to.

[yurgenburgen]

At 12/27/10 05:07 AM, HungarianSupermarket wrote: Atheism is a religion in itself.

Except it isn't.

A religion is a specific set of spiritual beliefs pertaining to the cause, meaning and nature of the universe. Atheism has none of this, and is therefore not a religion.

[Dragoonwing]

At 12/27/10 04:14 AM, yurgenburgen wrote: Or just turn the other cheek.

Just like Moral Orel!

[Medeyer]

Athiesism is no belief in god. It's not a religion, just a term to idetify those who don't believe in god. Agnostics believe in a god or higher power, but not a follower of any particular religion.

[xKiRiLLx]

OP is a fucking idiot!

If you believe in one religion, you automatically don't believe in anything else. You can't be a christian and a muslin at the same time.

Therefore, saying that your beliefs are right, but my neighbor's beliefs are different but also right is stupid for obvious reasons.

[xKiRiLLx]

At 12/27/10 05:34 AM, Medeyer wrote: Athiesism is no belief in god. It's not a religion, just a term to idetify those who don't believe in god. Agnostics believe in a god or higher power, but not a follower of any particular religion.

I believe you're wrong but I'm not sure myself:

Deist- One who believes that there is a God(s) but that God(s) do not intervene in the universe. ie God(s) set the rules and then retired.

Theist - One who believes that there is a God(s) and that God(s) do intevene in the universe.

Agnostic - One who thinks that the existence of God(s) cannot be proved or disproved.

Atheist - One who does not believe in God(s).

If the definitions are correct, then I guess I'm an agnostic deist.

[Sequenced]

At 12/27/10 04:10 AM, Gagsy wrote: I'm an atheist yet I am jealous of people with belief in faith, because it is something I actually yearn for but cannot force myself to believe in.

I lost the faith a few years ago.. I just found it a waste of time for me and now I don't think I'll ever get it back.

I miss those days actually.

[ming-the-merciless]

At 12/27/10 04:11 AM, killaboy69 wrote: You just confused the fuck outta me. Im a christian and I respect you for standing up for my ability to believe what I want. By you still you can let assholes be assholes. Im pretty sure they're just trolls anyway. If anyone said that to me in real life they know for a fact I'd punch them in the face really fucking hard. You're thread is pointless and this is now a +1 post dumping grounds starting... now

Because that's what Jesus would have done :)
your an idiot. You can't attack people for expressing the Human right of free speech.

[AustinBreed]

Some people just grew up without religion in their lives. They still have values. It is sad that explaining to someone that they don't believe in God is considered an insult.

[EcstaticEd]

I hate any shithead that rubs their beliefs in others faces.