legal synthetic marijuana: spice

[psycho-squirrel]

Anyone ever try this stuff? Its been around since like the early 00's but I haven't tried it till recently as they recently started really selling it here.

It was like way more effective then real marijuana, at least to me. I hear that it effects people differently.

I think in some states they banned all of he spice stuff. The government is trying to make this stuff illegal nation wide, and some of the spice products will be made illegal by the 24th this month, however many spices will still be legal because they are only banning certain ingredients in them.

You become tolerant to it fast than you would with marijuana. However for me, I only smoke once in a while.

Need to be 18 to buy it btw.

[blah569]

At 12/22/10 03:02 AM, psycho-squirrel wrote: Anyone ever try this stuff? Its been around since like the early 00's but I haven't tried it till recently as they recently started really selling it here.

It was like way more effective then real marijuana, at least to me. I hear that it effects people differently.

I think in some states they banned all of he spice stuff. The government is trying to make this stuff illegal nation wide, and some of the spice products will be made illegal by the 24th this month, however many spices will still be legal because they are only banning certain ingredients in them.

You become tolerant to it fast than you would with marijuana. However for me, I only smoke once in a while.

Need to be 18 to buy it btw.

Spice is actually harmful, while cannabis is not is not harmful. I believe it's just different plants that they 'spice' or spray with jwh-xxx chemicals.

[psycho-squirrel]

At 12/22/10 03:06 AM, blah569 wrote: Spice is actually harmful, while cannabis is not is not harmful. I believe it's just different plants that they 'spice' or spray with jwh-xxx chemicals.

Well before I smoke anymore I am going to do some research. If it is harmful then I will just stick with marijuana.

[Sinitech]

At 12/22/10 03:11 AM, psycho-squirrel wrote: If it is harmful then I will just stick with marijuana.

But that's... ILLEGAL.

[Gateau]

At 12/22/10 04:05 AM, Sinitech wrote: But that's... ILLEGAL.

Not really.

And to be honest, I can't bother to dig up the actual detrimental effects that 'spice' has... But people have been hospitalized for brain swelling, seizures, and other serious side effects. It even says on each bag 'not for human consumption', I think that's a fairly clear warning.

[Aigis]

Spice, you say?

[Jon]

Fake weed is fucking stupid.

[Somthing69]

i hear that shit can possibly mess up ur buzz for good and have major health sides effects. Just stick to the green (i wouldnt advise either but ) better safe than sorry.

[Dogmeat]

If for one second you think weed is harmless you deserve die a horribly painful and ignorant death.

[DM692]

Happy Shamam Herbs ftw. I love Pink Tiger and The Ultimate, that's what me and my buddies buy at the local head shop whenever we can't get weed.

[Greenskullkid]

yea, I tired a couple kinda of it.
But the only time it actually felt like weed, was when i was smoking the "pineapple" flavor.

Shits bad for you, not FDA approved and they sell it as a "incense" to light it up, let it burn to freshen the air, not to smoke.

[Ericho]

I know nothing about spice making you high, but I have heard that nutmeg is a better legal way to get high. Then again, I have no idea if nutmeg is in any way more or less harmful than nutmeg.

Wait, did I just say you could get high on nutmeg to people who might not know that already?

[NeverHundred]

Sounds pretty groovy. Except for the part were it fucks even the ost experienced stoners up. They got no tolerance to it, and even if they do every time the government writes on compound up as illegal the company that makes it just uses another That means that usually people who smoke it don't ever form a tolerance.

[mystro]

its the worst

[djmrules]

I have a few friends that have used it, but I know if you are in the army and you use it it's bounds to get kicked out. That's why I haven't touched it.

[DevilTheory]

At 12/22/10 03:02 AM, psycho-squirrel wrote: Anyone ever try this stuff? Its been around since like the early 00's but I haven't tried it till recently as they recently started really selling it here.

Yeah, it's alright.

It was like way more effective then real marijuana, at least to me. I hear that it effects people differently.

Nowhere near as effective on me, but I smoke marijuana very often. I'm used to it, probably wouldn't notice.

I think in some states they banned all of he spice stuff. The government is trying to make this stuff illegal nation wide, and some of the spice products will be made illegal by the 24th this month, however many spices will still be legal because they are only banning certain ingredients in them.

Of course. Damn, the government needs to loosen up. I mean, the high only lasts 10 minutes, at least it did for me.

You become tolerant to it fast than you would with marijuana. However for me, I only smoke once in a while.

I wouldn't know, haven't done it much, I prefer pot.

Need to be 18 to buy it btw.

Lol, of course.

[Lagerkapo]

They made it illegal in Colorado last month, but I say good riddance.

You can buy medical pot here if you get a (super easy to get) license. Legally. Good fucking pot too. And it's getting cheaper.

Spice and K2 and Black Mamba and all of those other "not-pot" things never did shit for me. It always felt like I feel right when I hit a bowl and just start to feel an altered state, then it stops and doesn't go any further. No fun. Some people like the shit, but some people like whippits too...

Now Salvia Divinorum, a legal-to-buy herb related to sage and mint, THAT SHIT WILL PUT YOU OUT OF THIS WORLD. I'm a relatively experienced tripper and Sally scares the living hell out of me. I guess it's because I never wanted to let go and let her take me to the other side... However there's no way to overdose and you will, no matter what, come back so they have no real basis to make it illegal.

[Lagerkapo]

At 12/22/10 12:21 PM, Ericho wrote: I know nothing about spice making you high, but I have heard that nutmeg is a better legal way to get high. Then again, I have no idea if nutmeg is in any way more or less harmful than nutmeg.

Wait, did I just say you could get high on nutmeg to people who might not know that already?

Nutmeg contains safrole. Not as much as sassafras, but still has it. Safrole metabolizes into MDA in the brain and provides a mild psychedelic(ish) stimulant effect.

It's weird though. For one it takes almost 6 hours for it to kick in because it has to metabolize. For two, you CAN eat a fatal dose. Most people don't know that about nutmeg, but too much (a whole fuckload mind you) can fuck your day up. I tried it once out of interest and after doing a lot of research decided upon a 2 tablespoon dose of ground nutmeg. I've never had as much trouble eating anything in my life. Mixing it in a drink barely helped. It was a war.

It works better if you grind up your own nutmeg, but store bought will do.

It felt like sleep deprivation. I wasn't really hallucinating but everything was subtly surreal.

A friend of mine once ate almost twice as much and he got FUCKED up. He was the kind of guy to push himself. He managed to be ok but after a while he was not having any fun.

/Trip report