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The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 05:19 AM Reply

I can't seem to avoid the blues scale in the majority of my compositions. It's stalking me, no matter what key I compose in, I'll be chugging along with it and then: "mmm... this sounds pretty goo- wait a sec... GOD DAMMIT" it's the blues scale.
I hate using it because it's such a backdoor. It's kinda like the pentatonic scale, it doesn't matter what notes you hit it always sounds good. Is it like a sign of "uncreativity" or something? I know I'm capable of other things, sometimes I manage to break free of it and make something that sounds good NOT in the blues scale, but only occasionally. There's only so many variations you can do before it gets stale.


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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 06:24 AM Reply

Music isn't about the scales you use, it's about what you do with them.


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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 06:36 AM Reply

chuggin along everything is sound just fi-....FUUUUU MELODIC MINOR WE MEET AGAIN!!!!!

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 06:44 AM Reply

chuggin along everything is sound just fi-....WTF ARE YOU DOING IN MY HOUSE AGAIN MR. DORIAN SCALE

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 07:26 AM Reply

chuggin along everything is sound just fi-....OH GOT TO HELL CHROMATIC SCALE!

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 08:16 AM Reply

chuggin along everything is sound just fi-....PENTATONIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCC CCCCCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 09:45 AM Reply

Just relaxin on the couch writing some m.. WHY IS THE PROMETHEAN SCALE WATCHING ME THROUGH THE WINDOW


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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 09:58 AM Reply

chuggin along everything is sound just fi- HOLY SHIT I'M IN LABOUR.


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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 10:22 AM Reply

Yeah i think you just need some inspiration and let your creativity do his job. Try experimenting with your trac........ HOLY SHIT!!! HONEY, GET THE KIDS TO THE PANIC ROOM!!!


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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 11:34 AM Reply

Nothing even wrong with the blues scale, there are ways to make it sound interesting. Rhythm will do a lot to make melodies sound more interesting.. Trying odd intervals will do you good too(A little bit harder to do with a blues scale, but it can be done).

Last bit of advice, I'd say mix other scales in with the blues scale. I play a lot of blues, but this really can apply to any type of music, it just depends on your harmonic backdrop. For example, in blues, I like to fuse the blues scale with mixolydian... And speaking of modes, try playing as if another note on the scale is tonic.

Really though, it will do you a lot better musically if you can get past thinking in terms of scales, and start thinking in terms of intervals. Scales help you learn intervals, but your end goal is to be able to understand the relationship between all the notes of the chromatic scale, and effectively use them.

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 12:20 PM Reply

yeah so im just chugging this chocolate milkshake and talkin to my fri--- ARRRRRGGGHHHHHH BRAAINFREEEEEEZEEEE AAAAAAAAAAAAAA..mixolydian

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 01:36 PM Reply

Chuggin' along and everything's fi-GOD DAMN IT DORIAN FLAT 2NDDDDDDDDD

Most scales can be considered a pentatonic scale + notes. It's not a cop out to enjoy certain sounds more than others, tonality is often pretty big to a genre. Just worry about wether you like the ideas or not - no one really cares what scales you used.

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 01:50 PM Reply

gotta play stuff that your brian isn't used too. I hate it....but you'll eventually just 'get it' if you keep doing different styles.

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 01:57 PM Reply

At 12/19/10 05:19 AM, crapatflash wrote: I hate using it because it's such a backdoor. It's kinda like the pentatonic scale,

well it IS a pentatonic with a couple of flourishes really. most texts will refer to the scale shape as the blues pentatonic.

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 03:04 PM Reply

I don't really think about scales when I'm making music... if you'll forgive me for sounding like a stoner, I just let the music come out...
I think a lot of people have patches where they can only make music of a certain kind. I usually solve that by taking a break from music for a while.

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 03:16 PM Reply

Chuggin' along and everything's grea - OH GTFO HUNGARIAN E MINOR!!!!


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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 03:24 PM Reply

At 12/19/10 03:16 PM, joethesouleater wrote: Chuggin' along and everything's grea - OH GTFO HUNGARIAN E MINOR!!!!

i don't believe that you actually usually play music in hungarian scales

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 03:31 PM Reply

I think that 90% of the posts in this topic are useless and unhelpful, but that is just me.

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 03:42 PM Reply

I don't think a single one of the replies are useful in the slightest. The ones that aren't jokes are basically different ways of saying "try different scales" which is like telling a fat guy who has problems losing weight to "try getting thinner"

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 03:44 PM Reply

At 12/19/10 03:24 PM, SBB wrote:
At 12/19/10 03:16 PM, joethesouleater wrote: Chuggin' along and everything's grea - OH GTFO HUNGARIAN E MINOR!!!!
i don't believe that you actually usually play music in hungarian scales

recently ive been playing a lot in it, its my favorite scale to play right now, used to be D Minor


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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 03:47 PM Reply

At 12/19/10 03:42 PM, SBB wrote: I don't think a single one of the replies are useful in the slightest. The ones that aren't jokes are basically different ways of saying "try different scales" which is like telling a fat guy who has problems losing weight to "try getting thinner"

Heeeeeeey. While what you say is funny and mostly true, I must stress the importance of odd rhythm when it comes to making good music.

The blues scale can sound very interesting and even unique if you have a weird sense of rhythm =p

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 03:58 PM Reply

ok ok ok well "help" him. lolol

Anyway...

what your problem seems to be is that you simply enjoy the sound of a blues scale. Its very easy to finger out on a guitar and it can be used in many applications. i play guitar, not very well i may add. But i also do play keys. whenever i find myself using the same scale for alot of composition i literally force myself to jam in a completely different scale over and over and over again. Doing this has made me comfortable with the way i finger things and also has trained my ear to be satisfied with what i am playing or composing.

Every player has their comfort zone. im in an improv band (drummer) and i notice that whenever we stall a little and pick things back up all of a sudden everyone is playing A major and im playing my comfort beats on drums (hip hop, dub, dnb and house). I literally force myself to practice and play beats that i am not comfortable playing. later listening to the tracks i notice the staleness isnt there and it turns out to be some pretty sick stuff even though at the time it felt odd. it just seems that my band is comfortable with A major.....go figure.

So what i think you need to do is literally FORCE yourself to only play in scales that you are not used to.
Pick one or two scales and play them so much that they become second nature. The same way a blues scale is second nature. you will find you can stray from it and come back to it as easily as you do now with the blues scale

hope that answers your question and helps a bit.

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 04:37 PM Reply

At 12/19/10 01:36 PM, Chris-V2 wrote: DORIAN FLAT 2NDDDDDDDDD

so sexy

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 04:50 PM Reply

Chuggin along everything is sounding absolutely gre-MAJOR C MY DEAR CHAP, HERE AGAIN????

Just kidding, I don't write handsup dance/trance.

OP why don't you just print off or mark some other scales and force yourself to write within their confines?


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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 19th, 2010 @ 06:38 PM Reply

so I was chugging along and everything was going fi-AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN I THIS RANDOM MOP-HEADED FAGGOT SAID DUDE WATCH ME PLAY THIS SUPER LOCRIAN with a bb7 :) SCALE and then I was all like FUCK YOU YOURE JUST TRYING TO SOUND INTELLIGENT WITH YOUR OBSCURE SCALE NAMES to which he had this smug-ass grin on his face then all of a sudden HIS HAIR TURNED GOLD AND GOT ALL SPIKY LIKE A DRAGON BALL Z CHARACTER, and then he proceeded TO SHRED MY FACE OFF WITH THESE INSANE TAPPING RIFFS that werent even played on a guitar BUT SOME WEIRD SPHERICAL SHAPED INSTRUMENT, WITH WHICH HE USED HIS PENIS TO PLAY WITH, he then OPENED A BLACK HOLE AND THERE WAS THIS ONE STRANGE BLACK DUDE WHO OFFERED ME A BLUE OR RED PILL AND I SAID FUCK YOU IM TAKING BOTH and then that was that.

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 20th, 2010 @ 03:33 AM Reply

chuggin along everything is sound just fi-.... OH NO!!!! WHOLE TONE SCALE!

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 20th, 2010 @ 04:51 AM Reply

At 12/19/10 03:24 PM, SBB wrote:
At 12/19/10 03:16 PM, joethesouleater wrote: Chuggin' along and everything's grea - OH GTFO HUNGARIAN E MINOR!!!!
i don't believe that you actually usually play music in hungarian scales

He still uses hungarian scales

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 20th, 2010 @ 04:59 AM Reply

Seeing all your responses made me think of this:

The accursed blues scale.


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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 20th, 2010 @ 07:31 AM Reply

Just keep on trying new styles and your brain will learn it as second nature. I also overused blues scales when I first started out prolly cause I used to play the trumpet.

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Response to The accursed blues scale. Dec. 20th, 2010 @ 11:33 AM Reply

Just chugging along then WHAT THE FUCK GET OUT OF MY GUITAR YOU FUCKING MICROTONES