False Accusations of Rape

[studmuffin7]

Yes, I know.. twas posted in Politics Forum as well... But shut it, this is an issue that I feel strongly about and I think it is high time it got the awareness it deserves.

My sociology class assigned us a big project instead of a final exam, which I presented earlier today. Back in October, the topic I drew out of the hat was "rape", and I figured this would be a pretty simple subject as no one in their right mind would ever argue in favor of rape right? Well, things turned out not to be so simple.

"In a study that span nine years, sociologist Eugene J. Kanin's findings were that in the United States, 41% of rape allegations are false. Kanin discovered that most of the false accusers were motivated by a need for an alibi or seeking revenge. Kanin was once popular and highly praised by the feminist movement for his groundbreaking research on male sexual aggression. His studies on false rape accusations have received very little interest."

Source: Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 23, No. 1, 1994

Cited at:

http://www.suite101.com/content/false-al legations-a21219

http://www.theforensicexaminer.com/archi ve/spring09/15/

"Dr. Charles McDowell, formerly of the US Air Force's Office of Special Investigations, discovered that 27% of Air Force women who claimed they had been raped later admitted making false accusations of rape. The admission usually came when they were asked to take a lie detector test. With these admitted false accusations he was able to develop 35 criteria distinguishing false accusations and those known to be genuine. Three independent judges then examined the remainder of the cases. Only if all three reviewers independently concluded the original rape allegations were false did they rank them as "false." The total of false allegations became 65%."

Sources:

http://www.falserape.net/falserapeafa.ht m

http://www.mediaradar.org/research_on_fa lse_rape_allegations.php

It is hard to work out a specific figure on what percentage of rape cases are fake as it is a complicated subject. Women may recant out of fear or shame, rather than his innocence. Still, there is no shortage of false rape cases if you do the research. Examples below,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuSq...e ature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbBHJ...e ature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2_3U...e ature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6x9...e ature=related

What bothers me the most in all of this, is that there is virtually no legal penalty for crying false rape. Only in a few, rare cases were women prosecuted for this, and even then it was 1-3 years (compared to the kind of time a man would get if convicted for it). Moreover, there is a complete lack of any kind of attention on this issue from civil rights groups or feminists (who probably encourage this kind of thing). What makes matters worse is that if you have sex with someone and they decide to pull this, it is very difficult to "prove" one way or the other.

Oh and this quote really burned me...

"In Canada there is little or no justice for falsely accused men. In a small town north of Toronto a woman gave York Region Police a blood stained pair of underwear stating that her ex-husband sexually assaulted their daughter. DNA evidence proved that the woman cut herself and put her blood on the garment. She was fined $25 for public mischief."

Source:

http://www.suite101.com/content/false-al legations-a21219

I personally believe 20+ years of jail time needs to be attached to women who seek to use rape/assault laws as a weapon and I think the proverbial "rape shield" law needs to be gutted. This not only affects us guys, but women too as I doubt any REAL progress can be made in the fight against rape without confronting this problem. When I presented this angle to the class it proved very divisive. Not surprisingly, the feminist students in the room tried to twist my words and spin it to sound like I was "pro-rape", though the professor seemed more impressed by my work. This is likely to ignite a powder keg of emotion from both men and women, but is an issue that simply MUST be addressed so I thought I'd post it in political forums around the net (starting here). What do you Newgrounders think?

[GamesArmor]

At 12/16/10 11:42 PM, studmuffin7 wrote: I personally believe 20+ years of jail time needs to be attached to women who seek to use rape/assault laws as a weapon and I think the proverbial "rape shield" law needs to be gutted.

I agree, to an extent. 20 years seems too harsh just too teach somebody a lesson, make it 5 years.

[studmuffin7]

Sorry, the links to my YouTube sources were malformed some how. Here they are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuSqj4X3 nA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx0aK6PN1 TE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbBHJrGqa 2g&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2_3ULc9j j8&feature=related

[GotTheBlues]

TL;DR, but if it was already posted, and belongs in the politics forum, it wasn't made for here.

Now get out.

[studmuffin7]

At 12/16/10 11:44 PM, GamesArmor wrote:

At 12/16/10 11:42 PM, studmuffin7 wrote: I personally believe 20+ years of jail time needs to be attached to women who seek to use rape/assault laws as a weapon and I think the proverbial "rape shield" law needs to be gutted.

I agree, to an extent. 20 years seems too harsh just too teach somebody a lesson, make it 5 years.

Well considering how much time these men spend in prison before their innocence is established, the fact that they often lose their house and spouse and buisness etc... I feel like these women shouldn't even have lives anymore after destroying someone else's.

[Jackdabomb]

The woman's punishment should be rape

[Light]

At 12/16/10 11:50 PM, Jackdabomb wrote: The woman's punishment should be rape

I second this motion.

But these women really do disgust me when they make false allegations of rape. It just makes me wish they'd get decades in prison, like what the OP feels they deserve.

[GamesArmor]

At 12/16/10 11:48 PM, studmuffin7 wrote:

At 12/16/10 11:44 PM, GamesArmor wrote:

At 12/16/10 11:42 PM, studmuffin7 wrote:

I agree, to an extent. 20 years seems too harsh just too teach somebody a lesson, make it 5 years.

I feel like these women shouldn't even have lives anymore after destroying someone else's.

Provided that the defendant is convicted guilty, which is very unlikely.

[icecreammac]

I totally agree that something needs to be done about this. $25 for public mischief!? I agree that these women do need to be locked up, for at least (as mentioned before) 5 years.

[corn-cob]

in the world that we live in, it is hard to believe that men can be tortured like this by woman, one world of mouth can send a husband to jail for a long time and as a result a divorce or seperation can go very well for the mother to get the house kids and the kitchen sink..
it is hard to believe any of this shit has been going on for so long and nothing has been done about it
the hardest thing is that if a man is sent away for a period of time and then the set free by the woman she goes scot free with i am sorry in her words..
if it were my choice, i would start to reverse the charges and then .. back them onto the woman. lets say that a man is sent to prison for 50 years for "raping" 6 girls, it is later proven after a year that 4 of the woman were lieing and they had falsely imprisoned a human being for unjustified time... i would make sure that the woman either got 50 years them selves.. each. or the time that the man was charged for the crime that he did not commit.. 8 years+12+6+14+5+5... so all the different woman will get 8 years, 12 years, 6 years, and 14 years in prison.
that would balance the world, it would shut women that only want to fuck up a guy for the hell of it to simply break his laptop or a x-box or tv,
justice would be served COLD

[LordZeebmork]

At 12/16/10 11:44 PM, GamesArmor wrote:

At 12/16/10 11:42 PM, studmuffin7 wrote: I personally believe 20+ years of jail time needs to be attached to women who seek to use rape/assault laws as a weapon and I think the proverbial "rape shield" law needs to be gutted.

I agree, to an extent. 20 years seems too harsh just too teach somebody a lesson, make it 5 years.

Nobody said anything about teaching anyone a lesson. This is about making goddamn sure it doesn't happen in the first place. If anything, I'd say 20 years is too light a sentence for people who want to waste the legal system's time and use it as their own personal army.

[HighWay]

If women just stayed in the kitchen like they are supposed to, this wouldn't be happening.

[BananasFoster]

At 12/16/10 11:48 PM, studmuffin7 wrote:

At 12/16/10 11:44 PM, GamesArmor wrote:

At 12/16/10 11:42 PM, studmuffin7 wrote: I personally believe 20+ years of jail time needs to be attached to women who seek to use rape/assault laws as a weapon and I think the proverbial "rape shield" law needs to be gutted.

I agree, to an extent. 20 years seems too harsh just too teach somebody a lesson, make it 5 years.

Well considering how much time these men spend in prison before their innocence is established, the fact that they often lose their house and spouse and buisness etc... I feel like these women shouldn't even have lives anymore after destroying someone else's.

I really feel that if a woman lies about an accusation of rape, she really deserves the time he could have served. That is completely unfair, and she should suffer the consequences she almost made him suffer through. Even so, though she would carry the shame of being a false accuser, that still likely wouldn't be equivalent to the stigma of being accused a "rapist," so I think that even then, that would not break even.