Making computer, need help!

[lron]

Hey all, I am going to try to build my own computer and I need some help. Any help from anyone who knows about building computers will be much appreciated!

At the moment I have a keyboard, monitor, and case (with a power supply). Now, I wanted a decent computer, and I went on newegg and tried to pick some stuff out, the motherboard, proccessor, memory, and hard drive. This is what I came up with:

Fan:

NEW Rev.2 for Intel 1366, 1156, 775 and AMD AM3
Link
29.99

RAM:

OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage
Desktop Memory Model OCZ3RPR1600C8LV4GK -
Link
64.99$

Proccessor:

Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
BX80605I5760 -
Link
204.99$

Motherboard:

MSI 870-G45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard Military Class/ X6 CPU supported/ CPU CoreUnlock
Link
69.99$

Harddrive:

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Link
49.99$

I may be doing something wrong, like the fan isn't powerful enough, but I'm unsure, if anyone can help out that'd be great.

Thanks.

[Tinkco86]

Dude, you chose an Intel processor for an AMD board.... lol

It's a good board, and a good processor, but the two aren't simply compatible. I do highly suggest going the AMD route because it is less expensive.

Since you feel like spending $200 on a mid range Intel CPU, why not go for a 6-core AMD that is actually cheaper?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16819103851

I don't know what you plan on using this computer for. If you are into gaming, I definitely suggest a graphics card. Just say what games you would like to play and someone should suggest one for the job.

[lron]

At 12/12/10 10:34 PM, Tinkco86 wrote: Dude, you chose an Intel processor for an AMD board.... lol

It's a good board, and a good processor, but the two aren't simply compatible. I do highly suggest going the AMD route because it is less expensive.

Since you feel like spending $200 on a mid range Intel CPU, why not go for a 6-core AMD that is actually cheaper?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16819103851

I don't know what you plan on using this computer for. If you are into gaming, I definitely suggest a graphics card. Just say what games you would like to play and someone should suggest one for the job.

Ah, thank you, this is exactly what I was talking about, lol, I knew I was doing something wrong. And silly me, I had a graphics card in there, I just forgot to put it in this post, lol, heres the graphics card.
(I will definitely use that proccessor)

Graphics Card:

EVGA 01G-P3-1465-AR GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP
Ready SLI Support Video Card
Link
199.99 (159$ after rebate)

So, the fan is alright you think? The computer won't overheat?

[ChaDMcBaDD]

bro why dont u get 8gb of ram instead of 4??

and you could do the i3 core with the intel motherboard itll be like $250 on tiger direct.

that graphics card your buying is pretty new, you could do a past series from like 08-09 and get them waaay cheaper and it will still run nearly everything that you want.

such as radeons HD4000 series or geforce 100-300 series

[lron]

At 12/12/10 11:17 PM, ChaDMcBaDD wrote: bro why dont u get 8gb of ram instead of 4??

and you could do the i3 core with the intel motherboard itll be like $250 on tiger direct.

that graphics card your buying is pretty new, you could do a past series from like 08-09 and get them waaay cheaper and it will still run nearly everything that you want.

such as radeons HD4000 series or geforce 100-300 series

Eh, why do I need 8 gigs of RAM? I'm running on a duel core at the moment 1 gig of RAM. Labtop, dell, from 2005, I need something new, but I mean i don't need anything amazing, and can you link me to a graphics card yu are talking about?

[lron]

At 12/13/10 12:42 AM, neeggerbeetch wrote: Helpful

Thanks man, again, i'm extremely new to this and am trying to learn, so let me post the new specs.

RAM:

OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3RPR1600C8LV4GK -
Link
64.99$

Processor:

AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX
Link
179.00$

Motherboard:

MSI 870-G45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard Military Class/ X6 CPU supported/ CPU CoreUnlock
Link
69.99$

Harddrive:

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Link
49.99$

Graphics Card:

EVGA 01G-P3-1465-AR GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Link
199.99 (159$ after rebate)

About the RAM, I can't seem to find any four, 1 gig ram sticks :/ if anyone can find a page thats affordable with them, could you link? Again thanks for help.

[Rage]

At 12/13/10 12:58 AM, lron wrote:

About the RAM, I can't seem to find any four, 1 gig ram sticks :/ if anyone can find a page thats affordable with them, could you link? Again thanks for help.

Don't worry about the four sticks for dual channel thing. He's wrong. You can run dual channel just fine with two sticks. Just make sure you peek at your motherboard's manual to be sure of which two slots you'd need to fill in order to run dual channel.

As for the RAM you've currently chosen, it's a little on the pricey side. You can save a decent $15-$20 with a different set, like these.

[lron]

At 12/13/10 01:13 AM, RageVI wrote:

At 12/13/10 12:58 AM, lron wrote:

About the RAM, I can't seem to find any four, 1 gig ram sticks :/ if anyone can find a page thats affordable with them, could you link? Again thanks for help.

Don't worry about the four sticks for dual channel thing. He's wrong. You can run dual channel just fine with two sticks. Just make sure you peek at your motherboard's manual to be sure of which two slots you'd need to fill in order to run dual channel.

As for the RAM you've currently chosen, it's a little on the pricey side. You can save a decent $15-$20 with a different set, like these.

Thanks man, saving the money always helps! And about the duel channel thing, I'll make sure to do that, I added that RAM to my list.

[Entice]

At 12/12/10 10:34 PM, Tinkco86 wrote: Since you feel like spending $200 on a mid range Intel CPU, why not go for a 6-core AMD that is actually cheaper?

They have 6-core processors now???

MY QUAD CORE IS USELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!111

[lron]

At 12/13/10 01:51 AM, neeggerbeetch wrote: sorry about that. hes right on x2 2GB each. on top of that if the motherboard allows more than 4gb you can add some more sticks in the future if needed.

How can I tell if my motherboard can handle more GBs?

[Wolfos]

At 12/13/10 02:04 AM, lron wrote:

At 12/13/10 01:51 AM, neeggerbeetch wrote: sorry about that. hes right on x2 2GB each. on top of that if the motherboard allows more than 4gb you can add some more sticks in the future if needed.

How can I tell if my motherboard can handle more GBs?

It will say so in the manual.
Also, since you're going for an AMD CPU, don't go for the NVidia GPU but go for an ATI.

[lron]

At 12/13/10 02:53 AM, Wolfos wrote:

At 12/13/10 02:04 AM, lron wrote:

At 12/13/10 01:51 AM, neeggerbeetch wrote: sorry about that. hes right on x2 2GB each. on top of that if the motherboard allows more than 4gb you can add some more sticks in the future if needed.

How can I tell if my motherboard can handle more GBs?

It will say so in the manual.
Also, since you're going for an AMD CPU, don't go for the NVidia GPU but go for an ATI.

Thanks for the advice but I'm having some trouble finding a decent ATI GPU at the moment.
Possibly this?
Link

Anyway, if anyone has any ideas, feel free to toss them my way, but for now i'll keep looking.

[ChaDMcBaDD]

this combined with EIGHT (8) GB of RAM will get you where you need to be.

also, get an intel i3 CPU and motherboard combo. i5 and i7 are kind of pricey, i think i3 will work just find for anything.

[lron]

At 12/13/10 03:41 AM, ChaDMcBaDD wrote: this combined with EIGHT (8) GB of RAM will get you where you need to be.

also, get an intel i3 CPU and motherboard combo. i5 and i7 are kind of pricey, i think i3 will work just find for anything.

Hmmm, perhaps this then? Its not too much of a price increase for the RAM but if i'm getting that much of a break with the graphics card then its totally worth it.

Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 996770
Link

[Tinkco86]

I'd say stick with the RAM RageVI recommended. G-Skill makes excellent RAM. I think 4GB is perfectly fine for any user at this point in time. I chug along very nicely with 4GB. I don't see a reason to have 8GB.

As for the graphics card, I would suggest ATi. Though the market has changed with the release of the HD6000 series, but I still do thing that the HD5850 is a great choice, especially the XFX flavor.

You said you had a power supply with the case. Usually the PSUs that come with computer cases are not of high quality and tend to conk out under stress. A faulty PSU can comprimise an entire system. I've seen this happen. DO NOT SKIMP ON A PSU. That is all I can say. What you really have to worry about when purchasing a PSU is how much do you really need? I can say that the 5850 is not as power hungry as other card out on the market currently, so nothing more that 750 is really needed. I think you could get away with a high quality 600W PSU. I suggest a Seasonic or Corsair PSU.

Here is a 620W Seasonic that is high quality, and will run the system efficiently. You may think $75 may be a little much, but you will be happy when the computer does not blow up after a week.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16817151096

[lron]

At 12/13/10 10:34 AM, Tinkco86 wrote: PSU and Graphics help

Don't worry about my PSU, I bought a PSU that can power pretty much any computer under any kind of stress, it costed about 100$.

I'm going to post my "final" specs, I think this system will work unless theres any other flaws in it, or huge deals to make. Thanks for all the help.

RAM:

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNQ
Link
49.99$

Processor:

AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX
Link
179.00$

Motherboard:

MSI 870-G45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard Military Class/ X6 CPU supported/ CPU CoreUnlock
Link
69.99$

Harddrive:

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Link
49.99$

Graphics Card:

XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity
Link
224.99 (184.99$ after rebate)

TOTAL: 533.96

Any other comments, suggestions?

[Xgsniper]

You damn cock-gobblers!

[lron]

At 12/13/10 08:52 PM, Xgsniper wrote: You damn cock-gobblers!

Ummm, explain what you mean?

[lron]

At 12/13/10 09:08 PM, GoatBeak wrote: More suggestions

About the optical drive, I have one with the case, but size matters? Or shape for that matter, what do you mean? How big does it have to be? And I am going to use Linux, I may need some help with that, but that's for another time.

[Wolfos]

At 12/14/10 04:11 PM, lron wrote:

At 12/13/10 09:08 PM, GoatBeak wrote: More suggestions

About the optical drive, I have one with the case, but size matters? Or shape for that matter, what do you mean? How big does it have to be? And I am going to use Linux, I may need some help with that, but that's for another time.

Optical drives are always the same size and shape.

[lron]

At 12/14/10 04:14 PM, Wolfos wrote:

At 12/14/10 04:11 PM, lron wrote:

At 12/13/10 09:08 PM, GoatBeak wrote: More suggestions

dddddd

Optical drives are always the same size and shape.

Okay, thanks, but he mentioned the motherboard I believe, the shape, or something, I would like to more about that, if I need a new case or something.

[andy70707]

At 12/14/10 04:16 PM, lron wrote:

At 12/14/10 04:14 PM, Wolfos wrote:

At 12/14/10 04:11 PM, lron wrote:

At 12/13/10 09:08 PM, GoatBeak wrote: More suggestions

dddddd

Optical drives are always the same size and shape.

Okay, thanks, but he mentioned the motherboard I believe, the shape, or something, I would like to more about that, if I need a new case or something.

almost all motherboards are mATX, and cases are normally ATX. Unless you need a tiny case, get an ATX case so you have plenty of room and an mATX, uATX, or full ATX motherboard. Other types are ITX and mini ITX. Also, make sure it has plenty of slots for everything you want to connect. I had to buy a new one when I ran out of USB headers and PCI slots.

[lron]

At 12/14/10 04:58 PM, andy70707 wrote:

At 12/14/10 04:16 PM, lron wrote:

At 12/14/10 04:14 PM, Wolfos wrote:

At 12/14/10 04:11 PM, lron wrote:

At 12/13/10 09:08 PM, GoatBeak wrote: More suggestions

dddddd

Optical drives are always the same size and shape.

Okay, thanks, but he mentioned the motherboard I believe, the shape, or something, I would like to more about that, if I need a new case or something.

Stuff

Okay, so I don't really want to buy a new case because I mean, they aren't the cheapest, but I will if I have to, would the motherboard require a new case?

Also if I had to buy one, would this be a good choice?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16811147153

[Tinkco86]

At 12/14/10 04:16 PM, lron wrote:

At 12/14/10 04:14 PM, Wolfos wrote:

At 12/14/10 04:11 PM, lron wrote:

At 12/13/10 09:08 PM, GoatBeak wrote: More suggestions

dddddd

Optical drives are always the same size and shape.

Okay, thanks, but he mentioned the motherboard I believe, the shape, or something, I would like to more about that, if I need a new case or something.

Your board is an ATX form factor which is the norm. As long as your case is an ATX case it can pretty much fit anything. One way to figure this out is if it has seven or more expansion slots on the back, you should be good to go.

And I've bought optical drives over the years, they seem to get shorter every time. It is good because I used to have a Shuttle XPC and the smaller the better is the case for those computers.

[lron]

At 12/14/10 05:07 PM, Tinkco86 wrote: Many quotes

I have no idea honestly if my case is an ATX I will check shortly, but I am fairly sure it is not, is size the only issue for the cases?