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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 01:26 PM Reply

Thanks Tom for saying this!

Something unrelated that I would like to bring up:

The sometimes collapsible ad on the top of the page is overly obnoxious. Just Sayin.

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 01:31 PM Reply

so what the f tom, saying copyrighted to owners wont mean shit anymore?
fuck that i got too many ideas for outside sources of music...

copyright should always work, just don't make money off it.

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 01:37 PM Reply

At 12/10/10 12:52 PM, TomFulp wrote:

As long as the dick I'm sucking is a photo of your own dick and you are over 18, and you file paperwork stating the model in the picture is you, with a copy of your driver's license for us to keep on file.

im not trying to suck up but i lmfao, its sadly so tru ....


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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 01:37 PM Reply

If theres something you can't fond on NG, there are plenty of websites that are open source that you can use.

http://www.freesound.org/ is just one of my favorites.

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 01:39 PM Reply

At 12/10/10 01:11 PM, citricsquid wrote:
At 12/10/10 12:52 PM, TomFulp wrote: As long as the dick I'm sucking is a photo of your own dick and you are over 18, and you file paperwork stating the model in the picture is you, with a copy of your driver's license for us to keep on file.
Tom, you know an awful lot about porn laws...

No he know alot about not getting fucked in this bis

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 01:40 PM Reply

At 12/10/10 11:20 AM, TomFulp wrote: Also dicks are still ok.

So long as you own the rights to the images - photographs of dicks are prohibited, but if you draw them yourself, then you're cool, right?

Rucklo is fine, in other words.


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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 01:41 PM Reply

Here comes ACTA.


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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 01:42 PM Reply

It all makes sense really.. We have a huge community here with endless possibilities. Considering there is now an art portal they can easily get art for their flash icons with permission from the artist. Same goes for the audio portal, every day I come across things in there that could be used in flashes easily and would be great in flashes.
Good news really, I don't see any problems with this.


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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 01:45 PM Reply

Maybe I'm talking out of my ass, but here's a few paragraphs of butthurt for you.

It's good that you've finally taken the liberty to tell us all to attempt being NG exclusive in our works; that move can help us become a unified system rather than dueling medias. The only problem is that the Flash Portal overshadows all the other portals almost entirely. For instance, at any given point on the front page, there is 24 movies and games featured, not including the 8 featured collections and top 5 of the day; while the audio portal only shares a low-flying and hardly impacting four spots, and the art portal shares eight slots.

An idea is to bring back NG Byte-Size again and have more 'advertised' featured artists in their respected fields. Another is to bring back artist interviews, but not be exclusive to flash, as to give everyone a chance. I can name a dozen incredible artists in the Art and Audio Portal right now who get great reviews, high scores and lots of fame but have nothing to show from it except some varying numbers.

I'd like to see more additions like this in the upcoming redesign if possible, because this is a bit unfair, and will grow more unfair and unbalanced when the Literature Portal comes in.

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 01:47 PM Reply

i'm just gonna go ahead and say that game companies (well nintendo for sure) are ok with it, i remember reading on their website that they do enjoy third party creations, so long as credit is given too them, of course, but i can only say that for nintendo, i dunno about others, if you don't believe me look it up, it's on their website

i may have been on newgrounds for sometime, but ill NEVER understand the fascination with dicks...

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 01:47 PM Reply

Newgrounds became to well known and now all the companies are wanting to ban their things uses.


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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 01:48 PM Reply

Wish it was easier to sort through the audio portal and to have a system that doesnt drive away any decent audio artists. Hopefully with the winds of change comes an unbroken portal.

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 01:51 PM Reply

We all knew this was coming, ah well, atleast dicks are still ok....


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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 02:06 PM Reply

At 12/10/10 01:48 PM, NeNe wrote: Wish it was easier to sort through the audio portal and to have a system that doesnt drive away any decent audio artists. Hopefully with the winds of change comes an unbroken portal.

i agree. the audio portal is a great concept but isnt currently being executed as well as it can be. what it needs is better categorization and organization to help flash artists find audio specific to their needs.

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 02:14 PM Reply

I approve of this news post.

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 02:15 PM Reply

I actually find this is quite sad news! I totally understand the move but I've enjoyed many music videos here on Newgrounds, Dare and many great collabs spring to mind. It just seems a shame to see them actively discouraged!


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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 02:24 PM Reply

At 12/10/10 01:09 PM, Wolfos wrote: Well, for music, you had already found the brilliant solution that is the audio portal.
What I would also like to see, are some sound effects in the audio portal, maybe even a specific page for it.

The Audio Portal actually launched with sound effects but it became a huge mess. We have a goal of having a soundbank, fingers crossed.


This is the game JohnnyUtah and I have been working on.

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 02:25 PM Reply

At 12/10/10 02:06 PM, HLG wrote:
i agree. the audio portal is a great concept but isnt currently being executed as well as it can be. what it needs is better categorization and organization to help flash artists find audio specific to their needs.

its coming in the form of art portal ,so scouts hmmm ;)


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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 02:26 PM Reply

FUCK THE SPRITERS. Sprite flashes are the ultimate example of talentless hacks shitting out unoriginal films so they can steal awards from more deserving artists... though we already knew that.


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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 02:27 PM Reply

At 12/10/10 01:26 PM, Rabid-Animals wrote: What about Open Source content? The picture I used in this Flash is off of Wikipedia, but the licensing agreement (which i just updated my Flash to meet) says:
The copyright holder of this file, LocalFitness, allows anyone to use it for any purpose, provided that the copyright holder is properly attributed. Redistribution, derivative work, commercial use, and all other use is permitted.

I use AP music in just about every Flash I make now, and I've even got a friend in the Art Portal who helps me make backgrounds and stuff. Finding pictures of bodybuilders is an issue, though. :)

So, is that kind of use cool?

Yeah if the copyright holder allows use with attribution, that is fine. For example BarfQuestions movies all use music from outside the Audio Portal, but he allows anyone to use it as long as he's credited.


This is the game JohnnyUtah and I have been working on.

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 02:31 PM Reply

At 12/10/10 11:21 AM, Chumbawamba wrote:
At 12/10/10 11:20 AM, TomFulp wrote: Also dicks are still ok.
Thank god.

Im gone draw only dicks without music and art, only dicks !

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 02:35 PM Reply

Correct me if I am wrong but I think Tom is saying that if you want featured to stop using copyrighted music in your animation projects.
I can see that.
Also if you are making a game, then no where should you use any copyrighted images or music, as you are making a profit from it, either by sponsors or by flash ads.

They did rule that you are allowed to make fan made creations using copyrighted music, as long as credit is given and no profit is being made.

So if there is a song you herd and you just HAVE to make a animated video to, you can, just dont expect it to be featured. (also credit it properly)
And if you are doing a stick fight or sprite animation and just want the ambient music, there are plenty of great stuff in the audio portal.

I dont think he is telling ppl what they can or can not submit (unless its against the TOS)
Just saying its not getting featured and is urging the community to team up and be original.


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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 02:40 PM Reply

Man, this sucks. Could you at least tell us who was complaining? As in, what music company got down your back?


Are you MAN enough to click this?!

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 02:47 PM Reply

At 12/10/10 02:40 PM, LDAF wrote: Man, this sucks. Could you at least tell us who was complaining? As in, what music company got down your back?

doesnt really matter who.. This was long in coming. Just move forward

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 02:50 PM Reply

OH THANK GOD!
Cocks are still game B) thats all i need to hear.

I'm actually glad to hear this give artists on NG more gratification rather than outside materials. Inspires me to do all my own crap 100% original.


Hi

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 02:57 PM Reply

fuck those copyrighting pussies


I'm an instigator

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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 03:02 PM Reply

First!

Fuck that Luis guy
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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 03:04 PM Reply

At 12/10/10 11:47 AM, AngelofPeace wrote: Fuck this shit. Maybe you all aren't aware of the "fair use" clause in the copyright law which basically says you can't use someone else's work for lucrative purposes, but you my use it for instructional and other non-profit ends.

Not quite. The commercial-benefit factor in a Fair Use Argument is only one factor that a court considers when dealing with a fair use defense.

And "Fair Use" is a defense to copyright infringement - meaning that you still have to go through the expensive legal process to even get to it.

At 12/10/10 11:43 AM, TomFulp wrote: Ultimately we should also gather up as many free resources as we can.

If we are going to turn inwards to NG-created resources, I would suggest we allow photos to be submitted by users - even stock photos would be helpful. Because I need a nice picture of a rock for my next submission.

Also, please don't look at my most recent flash...


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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 03:05 PM Reply

Also dicks are still ok.

Dicks are the sole foundation of Newgrounds, without them this site is doomed to extinction.


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Response to Winds of Change Dec. 10th, 2010 @ 03:09 PM Reply

im glad dicks are still ok