Drum n Bass Snare

[Kaizerwolf]

I'm looking for drum'n'bass snare samples. I'm talking those heavy ones you hear in a "Delta Heavy" song, or something by Pendulum. I've looked far and wide, and I can't seem to find a good one on the internet.

Any help is good. I've looked around drumnbass.be, but that doesn't really have what I'm looking for.

[Reaper93]

A drum and bass style snare is often a snare with a lot of beater with some compression thrown on for a real "thwack" type sound, no?

Couldn't you just use some EQ compression and delay to mock one up based on any old snare?

[TillDawn]

It's about the compression, not the sample.

[TimeBender]

I don't remember any but I had a bunch of good samples, I got from forums. You wont find a lot on NG, but try producer, dj, or any type of singer songwriter forum and head to the download section.

[Envy]

At 11/9/10 06:02 AM, TillDawn wrote: It's about the compression, not the sample.

This. 1000x times this. I remember cornandbeans talking about how he used FPC samples with the right compression. With the right compression you can take a generally bad sample and give it a snap that could tear a giraffe in two.

[Chronamut]

where the FUCK haev you been hiding Kaizerwolf?

[Envy]

At 11/9/10 11:03 AM, Chronamut wrote: where the FUCK haev you been hiding Kaizerwolf?

looking for drum and bass snares

[Chronamut]

At 11/9/10 12:02 PM, Envy wrote:

At 11/9/10 11:03 AM, Chronamut wrote: where the FUCK haev you been hiding Kaizerwolf?

looking for drum and bass snares

lol.

[ACINO]

Have you tried vec 2 snare n clap n stuff pack? If not search google or if you ask politely i can find you a link.. If you have then add compressor like those nice guys have already suggested:)

[Kaizerwolf]

This. 1000x times this. I remember cornandbeans talking about how he used FPC samples with the right compression. With the right compression you can take a generally bad sample and give it a snap that could tear a giraffe in two.

Will do. I've got some time to mess around with compression and all that. :)

At 11/9/10 11:03 AM, Chronamut wrote: where the FUCK haev you been hiding Kaizerwolf?

School has eaten my soul.

At 11/9/10 03:11 PM, ACINO wrote: Have you tried vec 2 snare n clap n stuff pack? If not search google or if you ask politely i can find you a link.. If you have then add compressor like those nice guys have already suggested:)

No. No no no no no. Never again with VEC.

[Alchemist94]

Oh dear lord please don't replicate Pendulum's snare. But yeah, it's about compression. Another tip, pitch up a kick and layer it with your snare samples to add more punch to it.

[Envy]

At 11/9/10 05:04 PM, Alchemist94 wrote: Oh dear lord please don't replicate Pendulum's snare. But yeah, it's about compression. Another tip, pitch up a kick and layer it with your snare samples to add more punch to it.

also this, or even use a fast clap to add some zing to it, but make sure to keep it quiet, you just want the punch of these things, not the sustain.

[dietsnapple135]

At 11/9/10 05:04 PM, Alchemist94 wrote: Oh dear lord please don't replicate Pendulum's snare. But yeah, it's about compression. Another tip, pitch up a kick and layer it with your snare samples to add more punch to it.

Honestly, not this. Forming a DnB snare is all about compressing to hit the right frequencies. Peak that shit around 200 Hz and it'll be banging. All layering it with a kick will do is muddy up your frequencies.

[dj-Nate]

I like to EQ in some lower frequencies in my snares (in addition to the compression techniques described above) and sidechain the sub bass when the snare hits. It gives it that full, dynamic *punch* I think. But it has to be a quick sidechain. Not that slow, droning sidechain that trance uses a lot.

[SpaceWhale]

I recommend you go to FL Studio Music. They have some kick-ass samples there.

[hotsosking]

Yeah, definitely all about the compression on the snare. If you can't find the sound you like that way, you can always layer snares with short claps or something and EQ out what you don't want/need out of each one (I don't know exactly what you want). Not to promote, but forums like Dogsonacid (unmentioned) usually has a few good sample packs floating around to give you a decent starting point. Good luck :)

[Envy]

At 11/10/10 12:56 AM, Space-Whale wrote: I recommend you go to FL Studio Music. They have some kick-ass samples there.

fuckin' awesome site dude.

Thanks for this <3

[TakeTheBait]

What are some good compressors?
The FL is classic, but basic. Multiband is good and so is Maximus but they all seem limited. I found one called MjCompressor that I'm very satisfied with but I'd like some more options.

[Envy]

maximus is more than enough IMO... If you need more compression, I'm not sure how ridiculous your compression actually is...

[Reaper93]

At 11/9/10 06:55 PM, dietsnapple135 wrote:

At 11/9/10 05:04 PM, Alchemist94 wrote: Oh dear lord please don't replicate Pendulum's snare. But yeah, it's about compression. Another tip, pitch up a kick and layer it with your snare samples to add more punch to it.

Honestly, not this. Forming a DnB snare is all about compressing to hit the right frequencies. Peak that shit around 200 Hz and it'll be banging. All layering it with a kick will do is muddy up your frequencies.

Are you... are you suggesting to use a compressor to "hit the right frequencies" and "peak that shit around 200 Hz"?

The mind is boggled.

[dietsnapple135]

At 11/11/10 12:18 AM, Reaper93 wrote:

At 11/9/10 06:55 PM, dietsnapple135 wrote:

At 11/9/10 05:04 PM, Alchemist94 wrote: Oh dear lord please don't replicate Pendulum's snare. But yeah, it's about compression. Another tip, pitch up a kick and layer it with your snare samples to add more punch to it.

Honestly, not this. Forming a DnB snare is all about compressing to hit the right frequencies. Peak that shit around 200 Hz and it'll be banging. All layering it with a kick will do is muddy up your frequencies.

Are you... are you suggesting to use a compressor to "hit the right frequencies" and "peak that shit around 200 Hz"?

The mind is boggled.

Obviously, you would need to EQ it properly. But your snare won't punch at those frequencies unless it has been compressed. Sorry to mind-fuck you with elementary musical knowledge.

[Reaper93]

Sadly you've missed the point of my snark in favor of wanking off to yourself. Sadface.

[Cross666]

At 11/11/10 01:36 PM, dietsnapple135 wrote:

Obviously, you would need to EQ it properly. But your snare won't punch at those frequencies unless it has been compressed. Sorry to mind-fuck you with elementary musical knowledge.

You mean Audio Engineering knowledge, not producing. I don't remember my Grade school music teacher wheeling in any effect racks back in the day; though he did make us play the fuck out of a recorder.

[dietsnapple135]

At 11/11/10 10:10 PM, Reaper93 wrote: Sadly you've missed the point of my snark in favor of wanking off to yourself. Sadface.

Now that it's put in that kind of lighting. You're right. I feel sad.

At 11/12/10 07:44 AM, Cross666 wrote:

You mean Audio Engineering knowledge, not producing. I don't remember my Grade school music teacher wheeling in any effect racks back in the day; though he did make us play the fuck out of a recorder.

Gah, recorders are the absolute worst. Musical skill was not factored into the ultimate sound of those things, I swear. It's just randomness.

[boney-man]

Work with the samples you already have; try to recreate some other drum & bass snares you've heard by layering them, compressing them, and EQing them.

In the event that your samples just don't cut it, you're going to have to go on a sample hunt. Funnn.

[SteakJohnson]

Take the release of the snare and shorten it so its really really short, then make it sound awesome with that shortened release with compression, distortion (subtle of course), eqing up the 200 hz, subtracting some mids maybe, then once compressions right add some white noise on top and jam the whole thing into a waveshaper so it gets really loud... Dynamics must be right b4 this tho.

if its not punchy enough.... fast compression and waveshaper
if its not fat enough.... limiter before compression, distortion, eq...
and make sure the release is really short, so its like a punch to the face.
Just taking any old snare (with low end) from some funk loop and layering it with a clean noisy snare can make an awesome snare with the right processing.
(ive even used soundgoodizer in moderation before compression it can add some low end fatness)

[B0UNC3]

I'd also suggest layering the whole thing with some slight white noise for some extra air :)

[Mystery-Moon-Pie-Aud]

At 11/13/10 04:06 PM, SteakJohnson wrote: ...and layering it with a clean noisy snare...

Did I read this right? A clean AND noisy snare? What kind of audio signals are you processing?

[Alchemist94]

At 11/9/10 06:55 PM, dietsnapple135 wrote: Honestly, not this. Forming a DnB snare is all about compressing to hit the right frequencies. Peak that shit around 200 Hz and it'll be banging. All layering it with a kick will do is muddy up your frequencies.

A pitched up kick won't, like I said in the post. It adds more punch, try it.

[boney-man]

At 11/15/10 04:05 AM, Alchemist94 wrote:

At 11/9/10 06:55 PM, dietsnapple135 wrote: Honestly, not this. Forming a DnB snare is all about compressing to hit the right frequencies. Peak that shit around 200 Hz and it'll be banging. All layering it with a kick will do is muddy up your frequencies.

A pitched up kick won't, like I said in the post. It adds more punch, try it.

Agreed - kicks can help.
Adding the noise on top really depends on what genre you're doing. I wouldn't add any noise for say, darkstep or neurofunk, but I might add some for liquid. I generally stay away from layering my snares with noise though. Also, as SteakJohnson said, making the sample have a really short decay/release really helps - but don't make it TOO short :D