Gay polls?

[Chronamut]

You know.. it pisses me off when people ramble about how such a tiny percentage of the human population is gay - I ask you - if you are gay - have you EVER been polled/ The answer is most likely no - so where do they get these numbers from?

I'll tell you where.

They take 10 people - one of them is gay - oh look - 10% of these peopel are gay - thus that must hold true for the entire country.

I say - it's more 50% - and half of those peopel are either in denial, haven't discovered their sexuality yet - are in hiding, bisexual, or pansexual, or confused about their gender identity, or are married in heterosexual marriages and are thus unhappy.

I mean look aound you - gay people are everywhere - esp. these days now that they're no longer in hiding in most developed nations.

we aren't just some blip in evolution - we also aren't dead end genetics - evidence is gay men who get married and have straight children - and also the fact that throughout history gay people have popped up everywhere.

Perhaps it's natures way of thinning the populatuion - who knows.

anyways discuss.

lock makes you homophobic ;)

[AgroNurse]

What...

Seriously, why are you so pissed off about this. If you want to be angry about skewed poll results, be pissed at the people who give the wrong answer.

[Tony-DarkGrave]

not my problem who cares?

[quanmandetil]

I sincerly doubt 50% of everyone is gay. In nature, if there was no society, how could humans reproduce if half of us were gay? Nature has programed us to be straight. Without society and those who are out of societal norms (gays), there would probably be no homosexuality at all.

[Ragnarokia]

If they took the poll in my area 1% would be gay, 96% will be suffering back and hearing problems.

[Doberman]

Who cares?

[Chronamut]

At 11/2/10 12:27 PM, quanmandetil wrote: I sincerly doubt 50% of everyone is gay. In nature, if there was no society, how could humans reproduce if half of us were gay? Nature has programed us to be straight. Without society and those who are out of societal norms (gays), there would probably be no homosexuality at all.

it's easy - those ones didn't.

Also you're wrong - nature shows that homosexuality also happens in animals - it's just somethnig that nature seems to occasionally do.

and I'm allowed to express my opinions- after all - this is the general portal - where people talk abotu stuff. If you don't like it - don't post!

[FairSquare]

If it also happens with animals, maybe scientist should 'poll' them. Just research how often animals are gay.

[Ragnarokia]

At 11/2/10 12:47 PM, Utilitarian wrote: TL;DR: Until you are simply craving a suck n fuck with someone else, you are merely a wannabe.

wanna be strait kid.

[Gagsy]

If that really is the case then you should be more annoyed with people from your other sexuality then with the straight ones who conduct these kind of polls.

[Chronamut]

At 11/2/10 12:47 PM, Utilitarian wrote: OP's question doesn't even make sense. Lets take a slice of the population. If someone is gay, it's based on longstanding desire for the opposite sex. If a teenager thinks they are gay, it may be a few years vefore they are truly "vindicated" as such. Then you look at people who think in a desirous way they are gay, the rest straight.

TL;DR: Until you are simply craving a suck n fuck with someone else, you are merely a wannabe.

um.. YOUR argument doesn't make sense? My whole point is that whenever you get in an argument with someone - they always use a stat like "well only 10% of people in america are gay anyways"

which pisses me off becasue as far as I can tell - the majority of people in these countries aren't actually polled - so to me it feels like a bullshit poll - and even if they ARE polled- half those people won't admit they are gay because of my above mentioned reasons.

really, is that so hard to comprehend?

[Gagsy]

My fucking typos.

By 'other' I meant 'own'.

Because you know, if this is true then it's the fault of the onhes in complete denial after all for not coming clean.

[quanmandetil]

At 11/2/10 12:46 PM, Chronamut wrote:

At 11/2/10 12:27 PM, quanmandetil wrote: I sincerly doubt 50% of everyone is gay. In nature, if there was no society, how could humans reproduce if half of us were gay? Nature has programed us to be straight. Without society and those who are out of societal norms (gays), there would probably be no homosexuality at all.

it's easy - those ones didn't.

Also you're wrong - nature shows that homosexuality also happens in animals - it's just somethnig that nature seems to occasionally do.

and I'm allowed to express my opinions- after all - this is the general portal - where people talk abotu stuff. If you don't like it - don't post!

Dude, I'm not trying to offend you, I'm just expressing my opinion. No need to tell me to GTFO.

My point is evolution would give us the ability to reproduce efficiently, as that is a mark of a surviving, adaptable species. So, logically, there are very few cases in nature where homosexuality exists, and even fewer when you realize that some "cases" are simple territorial responses.

My other point was that fringe parts of society encourage homosexuality, so more people who normally would be straight become gay. Without society, less people would be gay.

Also, judging from how you viciously attacked my opinion (lol), I am going to assume you are gay, or at least closet gay. Correct me if i'm wrong.

[Chronamut]

At 11/2/10 12:54 PM, Gagsy wrote: If that really is the case then you should be more annoyed with people from your other sexuality then with the straight ones who conduct these kind of polls.

I agree with you on that too - but that's a more complicated issue.. personally.. I 'd prefer for there to not be a poll at all on the subject.

[Ragnarokia]

At 11/2/10 12:55 PM, Utilitarian wrote:

At 11/2/10 12:52 PM, Ragnarokia wrote:

At 11/2/10 12:47 PM, Utilitarian wrote: TL;DR: Until you are simply craving a suck n fuck with someone else, you are merely a wannabe.

wanna be strait kid.

It's called a Kinsey scale. I'm 100% sure that I am straight. It is true however, that the pop. is not exclusively heterosexual or homosexual. Perhaps this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scal e will help you.

Ever had sex with the opposite sex? If not you aren't strait.
Also no one is 100% strait or gay.

[GiantDouche]

lol 50%? I'll admit that many people are gay to different degrees but the vast majority of people are on the straight end of the spectrum. 50% is just ridiculous, like do you have any evidence for that statement?

[chairmankem]

At 11/2/10 12:10 PM, Chronamut wrote: I say - it's more 50% - and half of those peopel are either in denial, haven't discovered their sexuality yet

Yeah right. You wish.

bisexual, or pansexual

If I remember correctly, bisexual isn't gay. It's bisexual. And pansexual, lolwut? There are two genders. Why would you need an entirely separate definition?

or confused about their gender identity

"Confused about their gender identity?" Who uses words like that? I don't say "my gender identity is heterosexual", I just happen to find women attractive and I act upon that. Only non-heterosexual people would bother using that connotation in order to assert the fact that whatever they're doing is simply a personal choice and shouldn't be judged. Which I agree it is: just don't go around arms flailing, yelling: "DON'T JUDGE ME! DON'T JUDGE ME!"

At 11/2/10 12:46 PM, Chronamut wrote: and I'm allowed to express my opinions- after all - this is the general portal - where people talk abotu stuff. If you don't like it - don't post!

So it's your opinion that half the population is gay? Well then, I guess it's my opinion that black is white and that the fire god consumes homosexuals in the holy fire volcano, but that's okay because it's my opinion and I'm allowed to express my opinions.

Come on. Don't kid yourself. Half the population isn't gay.

[Gagsy]

At 11/2/10 12:56 PM, Chronamut wrote:

I agree with you on that too - but that's a more complicated issue.. personally.. I 'd prefer for there to not be a poll at all on the subject.

Yes, but it'll probably never happen.

We are sex obsessed and any polls or Q&A about sex, be it gay, straight, bisexual, panwhatever then people will always ask and do shitty research for no doubt.

Still to be honest I really don't think it's like 50% at all, not even close. I'm sure most of us here can stop and think about every single person we know and then only a small amount of those will be gay. Yes, we can argue that many more could be denying the truth but that is up to them isn't it and if they lead a straight lifestyle convincingly then they are to everyone else around them straight.

[Chronamut]

I'm not viciously attacking anyone- and yes - I am gay - I stated that at the beginning when I said "we".

also - perhaps this will put things in perspective.

[Lintire]

50, 40, 30, 90, it doesn't matter. Whatever, I agree with the OP if this is the kind of crap they pulled - you pull 10 people off the street at random and ask ether or not they're gay. How many of those do you think is going to outright say "Yeah, I'm gay".

Statistics are bullshit, man.

[quanmandetil]

At 11/2/10 01:01 PM, Chronamut wrote: I'm not viciously attacking anyone- and yes - I am gay - I stated that at the beginning when I said "we".

also - perhaps this will put things in perspective.

I'm not quite sure what the point of that video was. It seemed like the interviewer was trying to convince straight people that gay people didn't ever choose their sexuality.

Look, I don't know anything about being gay, because I certainly am not, but I really don't believe that many people are homosexual AT ALL. Being gay is not a common thing, because it defies evolution.

[Ptero]

It's not like your born with a 50/50 chance of being gay. Homosexuality is rarer than being heterosexual. Much much lower than 50%.

[Luke]

It's like that with any poll / statistic. Three people are standing together, one of the three people smokes cigarettes. Therefore, 1 in 3 people smoke.

[ChRoN0uNc3]

also what gagsy said - there are a ton of people out there that you will never know are gay - because they live their entire lives under a cloak of pretend heterosexuality. Hell when I was growing up they always said it was 1 in 4 people who were gay. And that wasn't including all the other stuff I said.

I include bisexuals because I included every instance where one sex liked the asme sex. so bisexuals do - as well as pansexuals - who are people who like men, women, and transgendered, and chicks with dicks and pricks with clits.

As for those who are confused about sexual identity - those are actually people who are female but are born into a male's body, who thus eventually get a sex change to make them what they term the proper mentality for their gender. This also includes those who are intersex. If you don't know what that is- look it up. And I suppose you could include hermaphrodites in there - but now the line is getting pretty vague.

But yes.. lots of gays in denial. Trust me - once you start getting past your 20s a lot of them start coming out of the closet - people who are marries, have kids - suddenly come out gay.

[studmuffin7]

Now way in hell 50% of the population is gay. According to the CDC, only2% of males in America are gay...

"Public health records demonstrate that homosexuals, representing 2 percent of America's population, suffer vastly disproportionate percentages of several of America's most serious STDs, with incidences among homosexuals of diseases like gonorrhea, syphilis, hepatitis A and B, cytomegalovirus, shigellosis, giardiasis, amoebic bowel disease and herpes far exceeding their presence in the general population".

http://www.marysremnant.org/Friends/DBK/
BKHomAids.html

Personally, I think that makes a lot more sense. I've only met a few openly gay people in my life.

[ChRoN0uNc3]

also even if it only is 10% - that's still a shutload of people - millinos and millions of people. Hell in my city alone there are several thousand ones

lucky for me hehehe :P

also you're probably right - probably not 50% - but there are still a shitload of them outthere - moreso in gay friendly regions- if you're out in hick boonies- maybe less - hell less peopel overall anyways - but in somewhere like my city, or toronto, or san francisco - yeah there are gonna be tons.

[RedAnchor]

Why - the - excessive - amounts - of - hyphens - ? - - - Also you're crazy if you think HALF the population is gay. I don't think so, pal.

[ChRoN0uNc3]

At 11/2/10 01:11 PM, RedAnchor wrote: Why - the - excessive - amounts - of - hyphens - ? - - - Also you're crazy if you think HALF the population is gay. I don't think so, pal.

prove me wrong. Thing is - you can't. You think that just becasue you've only ever met a couple of flambouyant flamers or openly gay people (and yes lesbians also count as gay) that there can't be many of them.

Truth of the matter is, that a lot of gay people just act normal, and that you would never know they are gay, because they feel it's none of your business to tell you.

and yes, I use hyphens to denote pauses in my sentences. It's a bad habit, but whatever.

[quanmandetil]

At 11/2/10 01:13 PM, ChRoN0uNc3 wrote:

At 11/2/10 01:11 PM, RedAnchor wrote: Why - the - excessive - amounts - of - hyphens - ? - - - Also you're crazy if you think HALF the population is gay. I don't think so, pal.

prove me wrong. Thing is - you can't. You think that just becasue you've only ever met a couple of flambouyant flamers or openly gay people (and yes lesbians also count as gay) that there can't be many of them.

Truth of the matter is, that a lot of gay people just act normal, and that you would never know they are gay, because they feel it's none of your business to tell you.

and yes, I use hyphens to denote pauses in my sentences. It's a bad habit, but whatever.

Look. Homosexuality cannot be that common because it defies nature. Gays don't reproduce. Straights do. Obviously, natural selection would eventually kill off those with homosexual tendencies because of their inability to reproduce.

Don't be so angry, at least not at anyone here. I'm not trying to tell you to be straight, and neither is anyone else.

[Chronamut]

At 11/2/10 01:15 PM, quanmandetil wrote:

Look. Homosexuality cannot be that common because it defies nature. Gays don't reproduce. Straights do. Obviously, natural selection would eventually kill off those with homosexual tendencies because of their inability to reproduce.

actually homosexuals can reproduce - and have for thousands of years simply because society has forced them to be in heterosexually binding relationships. What we should ask ourselves though is, if all the gays in the world were killed off - would there be no more gays in new generatinos- or did somewhere alogn the line a genetic mutation get passed down as a recessive gene that makes all people possibly able to be gay at birth? Think of it like a mutation, liek red hair, or freckles, or six fingers...

and like I said before - perhaps it's natures way of weeding out people.

Don't be so angry, at least not at anyone here. I'm not trying to tell you to be straight, and neither is anyone else.

I don't get angry - I may get heated - but that's about it. I am merely defendign my point of view :)