At 11/1/10 04:51 PM, BezFriend wrote:
Are you even talking about the same link? Because it didn't say Boston Hospital but A WOMEN'S CLINIC. Check the OP's link.
I'm talking about this link. A link that you have been supplied THREE times already. A link that specifies there is absolutely NO chance of survival.
In simple terms: Terebal Cranium is a rare disease which affect the neurological structure during a fetus development. The brain blood barrier is not fully developed while the immune system does not have the ability to distinguish which are good brain cells and bad - thus basically eating the brain off from the newly born child. The disease activates once the child breaths oxygen through his/her own lungs.
Forgive me if I call bullshit, but for someone who needs to be supplied the same link 3 times doesn't get my vote of confidence.
Link would be nice. Or a reference to a medical book.
However, I believe the disease is not rare and fatal at all. I've seen brain-dead people asking for what Terebal Cranium is.
And yet, everybody here has debunked everything you've said....
Statistics are made up 87.76% of the time.
Oh the irony!!!
It is a bunch of lies. May I ask you respectfully if you have studied statistics in college?
Why would colleges teach statistical analysis if it's a bunch of lies?
Because if you do, you'll know how we make numbers to suit our arguments. 20-30 thousand children is not statistically significant compared to 100 trillions of people born since human walked the Earth.
Are you high? I was talking about the people on the earth RIGHT now! Not since the human race began you moron. The article YOU supplied said 1 in every 100,000 people get Sirenomelia. That's 0.001% of all births. There are roughly 2-ish billion children on the planet. Do the fucking math!
Or, if you want to do it another way. If 300,000 people are born everyday, 3 people today have Sirenomelia. 3 people tomorrow will have Sirenomelia. And 3 more people the next day will have and so on and so on.
But either way, your cancer analogy is bunk due to an inaccurate comparison and a misunderstanding of statistics.
But I would love for you to prove that statistics are just made up. Any peer reviewed articles at that university of yours?
I don't share your belief. If you came from a parasite - then it must mean that after 20-30 years, you are going to grow into an adult parasite. Well, unlike you, most of us are human. And we were talking about human fetus, not parasites.
Did I say that fully developed humans were parasites?
Compared to parasitic kingdom from where you came from,
What country do you live in then? Because an awful lot of them employ abortion.
when we kill another of our kind - regardless of age, we call it murder.
No it's not. It's killing another human that legally constitutes as murder. There are varying types of murder with varying levels of severity and punishment.
And you see, we have this Philosophy of Ethics and Morals which with careful reflection, understand that the human fetus has the "potential" capability of becoming a full grown human being,
Are you implying that a fetus is not a human being? Does a human have a conciousness? Does a fetus? Well....not really. Actually there is very little in similar between a person and a fetus.
"Potential" doesn't indicate certainty. We're all potentially rapists. We're all potentially terrorists. We're all potentially batmen, but that doesn't make it certain, does it?
infringing upon it in a way so as to obstruct its "becoming" is what we consider immoral. And I do say that the concept of "sins" came from doing what is immoral and unjust.
But funnily enough the bible never actually mentions abortion.
You know, these pro-choice and pro-life people have a common ground - CARE. They are caring people. These people are not evil zombies who wish women harm.
Pro-lifers don't care. If abortion was illegal, then babies that will certainly die can't be aborted (and yes, before you say ANYTHING that baby in the link was going to die). Woman at risk of dying from birth would still have to give birth. Pregnant rape victims would have to give birth to their rapists children. How would a 15 year old rape victim do that?
These people are alike - they are passionate about their case because it makes sense. To limit ourselves and our ideologies into just one side is a pitfall that causes racism and invisible division amongst ourselves.
Considering the fact that you've been arguing the pro-life side, what the hell are you talking about? How the flying fuck does abortion relate to racism?