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At 11/14/10 12:04 PM, Warforger wrote:

Unfortunately, I have actual news articles and actual evidence while you have crap.

says the guy who completely ignored the graph I posted.

At 11/14/10 01:43 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 11/14/10 12:04 PM, Warforger wrote:

Unfortunately, I have actual news articles and actual evidence while you have crap.

says the guy who completely ignored the graph I posted.

They're the same thing..... Yours is just using % of GDP meaning how much they spent vs. how much money they made.

Its funny how you and WolvenBear fire insults first then they are surprised when someone insults them back....

Recently there has been a large book released all about him explaining the goods and bads about him. I mean sure, he started some wars and used taxes on military but he's the reason USA is the best military in the world (most of the reason anyway) also he did drive Osama from a cozy bomb launching house to a small tent in the mountains.

At 11/14/10 08:50 PM, tyler2513 wrote: he's the reason USA is the best military in the world (most of the reason anyway)

Just let me get this straight. the President who allowed our troops to go into action with dramatically less armor than necessary made the army the best around?

At 11/14/10 03:21 PM, Warforger wrote:

They're the same thing..... Yours is just using % of GDP meaning how much they spent vs. how much money they made.

All I did was present a more accurate graph.

While you just measure Debt, I'm measuring Debt to GDP.

Point is: Having $200 with a $50 debt is better than having $100 with a $25 debt.

Based on that, the Republicans aren't as spend thrifty as you're making them out to be, nor are the Democrats the constant savers either.

Then again, I hate them all so...

Its funny how you and WolvenBear fire insults first then they are surprised when someone insults them back....

what are you talking about?

At 11/14/10 12:02 PM, Warforger wrote: On the other hand North Korea has......Along with the rest of those threatening nations and openly saying they want the destruction of America

Saying the US sucks and should be overthrown isn't a case for war against whatever country. There has to be a logical and legal reason. Not just "they hurt my feelings!" Breaking a ceasefire with us counts, as does shooting at our planes, harboring people who have directly attacked our soil and trying to kill an ex-President. Saying hurtful things doesn't.

Again you said America went after every Dictator, which is funny because the CIA installed Saddam into power and helped him oppress and kill his people. Its funny since Iran North Korea and Venezuala all oppress their people while the US just sits back and and uses their oil they bought from them.

Um, I've said no such thing. In fact, repeatedly on this thread alone, I've rejected that idea. And provided the reasons why.

Yes, affiliates, but do they actually have anything to do with Bin Laden beyond say "I like Bin Laden!".

Yes. They supply money, troops, weapons and more. Most of them either take orders from Bin Ladin or Zawahiri (EIJ, AQI, SOJ, etc), or take influence from them. Being an affiliate means more than "I think Ladin is sexy in his turban.". It means being directly tied to the group. Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? Or are you genuinely clueless about how the world works?

*sigh* pathetic.

No, it's not. I provided multiple examples to prove him wrong. He chose one example which (he was wrong on but) even if he was right, it would have no bearing on anything I said above.

Even if Saddam had no idea the specific Jordanian group existed, it had no meaning. He still financed HAMAS, Hezbollah and Fatah in killing Israelies. He still house Al Queda members directly connected to the first world trade center bombing. He still trained and armed EIJ operatives, which are directly connected to Al Queda through Zawahiri. And the list goes on. At the end of the day, it's the equivalent of saying, "Your honor, my client may be guilty of murder, arson, rape, robbery, genocide, terrorism, and puppy kicking, but he is NOT a jaywalker!" Who cares?

So are you clueless? Or deliberately stupid? I'm leaning towards the latter...

At 11/14/10 12:04 PM, Warforger wrote: Wow.....I meant approve as supporting it.....

That's not what you argued. Nor can I find anything to support your claim. And the budget is STILL written by the Democrats. Three strikes.

Unfortunately, I have actual news articles and actual evidence while you have crap.

Um, no you don't. Reagan lowered the top marginal rate from 70% to 28%.

http://www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rate s.php

Every President since has had higher taxes rates. Even Bush Jr. Hell, to find anything comparable to Reagan, you have to go back to the 1930s. You are out of your league here bud.

At 11/14/10 12:02 PM, Warforger wrote: Again you said America went after every Dictator, which is funny because the CIA installed Saddam into power and helped him oppress and kill his people. Its funny since Iran North Korea and Venezuala all oppress their people while the US just sits back and and uses their oil they bought from them.

I apologize. I did indeed say this. Mea culpa.

It's a half on, half off situation. We do go after people we consider dictators. Whether economically, financially, or through some sort of force, we intervene. We do not, however, always apply military force. Hence my mixed statements.

Unfortunately, during our brief period of allying with Saddam, he was the lesser of two evils. Reagan quickly realized what a monster he was, and began working both sides to weaken our two biggest enemies in the Mid-East. Was this the right strategy? ....Ehhhhhh, it's hard to say in hindsight. We have a lot of info Reagan didn't have. I don't have the answers on this one.

I like how everything Obama does is somehow the best thing ever, just because he's black. Now, I'm not racist, I respect Obama, but I'm sick of him being treated as a messiah because he's the first black President.

That seems pretty clear that Reagan had higher taxes. Reagan also drove the debt to record levels just like both Bush's and Obama. What a "Conservative" he was.

Haha I couldn't have said it better.

BTW, hasn't anyone noticed that there was only one addition to what Bush has done well? Yeah that's what I thought.

At 11/22/10 12:30 AM, RentallyMetarded wrote: BTW, hasn't anyone noticed that there was only one addition to what Bush has done well? Yeah that's what I thought.

Dropping the tax rates from 70-28% isn't the biggest tax cut ever? Oh ok. You're stupid.

That the highest tax bracket now is 35% (down from 28.5% under Clinton) is higher than 28% means that we have lower taxes now? Um ok. You're definately stupid. Retarded is a good word for you.