animal farm

[mrpopenfresh]

Well, I had to read animal farm by George Orwell for english class and I have to say, it is one of the best books I have ever read! The way Orwell interprets the russian revolution is just incredible.

So my question is: How many of you read the book? How many of you liked it?

I was just loving how each character represented someone or something from the revolution. This book made me totally understand how Stalin was and how his version of communism was totally off.

[RUDE]

At 4/8/04 10:35 AM, mrpopenfresh wrote: So my question is: How many of you read the book? How many of you liked it?

I absolutely loved it. I would really love to see an animated version of it though. The end was pretty scary.

[FatherVenom]

I loved it when my mother read it to me as a bedtime story many, many years ago. I only understood what was going on because I read the commentary in the back of the book. When I read it in high school it was a breeze and I liked it even more the second time. There actually is a live action movie out, but it's not very good.

[JoS]

I want to read it.

[EvilGovernmentAgents]

It's a pity. If only Leon Trotsky had NOT listened to Stalin's allies, and had done what Lenin had wanted him to do, then maybe the Soviet Union might have actually suceeded, would have become a truly powerful nation..........but it didn't happen. Great work, Stalin. Collectivization was a major factor in bringing down the USSR.

[D2Kvirus]

At 4/8/04 10:40 AM, CornClock wrote:

At 4/8/04 10:35 AM, mrpopenfresh wrote: So my question is: How many of you read the book? How many of you liked it?

I absolutely loved it. I would really love to see an animated version of it though. The end was pretty scary.

Ah, they screwed up the ending for the animated version, which is pretty lame.

Not as good as 1984 (not that many books are), but always a good read though.

[Jlop985]

I'll admit I haven't read Animal Farm, but you should read 1984. It's a bit 'harsher' than Animal Farm, but it's a very good read.

[RedSkunk]

At 4/8/04 10:51 AM, EvilGovernmentAgent wrote: It's a pity. If only Leon Trotsky had NOT listened to Stalin's allies, and had done what Lenin had wanted him to do, then maybe the Soviet Union might have actually suceeded

Coulda Shoulda Woulda. But you're right.

Animal farm - read it a long time ago, I think I saw some movie too, honestly can't remember if it was animated or live action though..

[EvilGovernmentAgents]

At 4/8/04 11:10 AM, RoteStinktier wrote: Coulda Shoulda Woulda. But you're right.

Maybe we're just not ready for communism. Maybe human nature and greed just doesn't allow for it.

Animal farm - read it a long time ago, I think I saw some movie too, honestly can't remember if it was animated or live action though..

It was live action.

[mrpopenfresh]

At 4/8/04 10:51 AM, EvilGovernmentAgent wrote: If only Leon Trotsky had NOT listened to Stalin's allies, and had done what Lenin had wanted him to do, then maybe the Soviet Union might have actually suceeded,

Orwell seems to say in his book, and by many analyses of it, that evem if Trotsky wouldv'e taken the place of Stalin, there wouldn't be much of a difference.

And we watched the movie at school too. Its live action, and it sucks tremendous amounts of ass. Such a great book dosen't deserve such a weak movie. It dosen't stay true to the book that much, and you don't get a feel at all for the animal's suffering.

[RUDE]

At 4/8/04 10:53 AM, D2KVirus wrote: Not as good as 1984 (not that many books are), but always a good read though.

I tried reading that book of at least 2 occasions and for some reason, just couldn't get through it. I'll definitely have to give it another try sometime.

[da-pope]

At 4/8/04 10:40 AM, CornClock wrote: I absolutely loved it. I would really love to see an animated version of it though. The end was pretty scary.

There is a movie, It's a good book I'm reading it in Language Arts (english)

[Madspeed]

Fantastic book, I'm glad it's covered in school.

[A-Carrot-By-Dr-Riot]

There have been two movies made. One was a cartoon, and there's a more recent, made for TV version, featuring various stars that can't get work anywhere else.

[mrpopenfresh]

At 4/8/04 03:50 PM, Dr_Arbitrary wrote: There have been two movies made. One was a cartoon, and there's a more recent, made for TV version, featuring various stars that can't get work anywhere else.

Patrick Stewart was the voice for Napoleon, and Kelsey Grammer made some as well. The whole thing was made by Jim Henson'S Creature shop, you know, the muppet guys. And the movie was for TNT.

Now back to the book. Im suprised that its still a bestseller. Well, not really. Everyone in my english program got a copy, so that makes quite a bit of animal farms sold.

[bumcheekcity]

At 4/8/04 10:35 AM, mrpopenfresh wrote: So my question is: How many of you read the book? How many of you liked it?

It is possibly one of the best political books i've read. And er... i've read it. I just love the way you never quite know if you're being lied to or not.

[TheloniousMONK]

At 4/8/04 10:35 AM, mrpopenfresh wrote: So my question is: How many of you read the book? How many of you liked it?

Yes, fantastic story. I remember reading it in one sitting and then, being so blown away, went back and read through some of the profound parts of it again.

Never heard of either movie versions. Anyone know where the cheapest place to buy would be? Amazon being my guess.

[fli]

I have read it many times. I must have done at least 9 papers on it. First encountered it during my 10th grade in High School, several times in my English class in community college, in my history class, physcology, and other times I can't even remember.

It is a very classic story about human nature. Funny, I was just re-reading it the other day and thought about how it reflects politics just right now.. I think I'll re-read it tonight before I go to bed...

Another good classic from Orwell is 1984. I would read that ahead of time and talk about it with people before hand. I'm sure you will read this in your English class if you haven't done so yet.

A few more good literature that you should read because you will encounter it in English classes in the future: Lord of the Flies, Fahrenheit 451 (a personal favorite), Power of Myth, The Stranger. Lysistrata isn't something you find in English (normally), most likely in Drama, but it's funny, and about war. Here's the story: woman want to end a silly war that the men insist on fighting, and so they swear off from sex until the men cave in and make peace. SOOO FUNNY... You just have to see it to really appreciate it.

[fli]

At 4/8/04 03:50 PM, Dr_Arbitrary wrote: featuring various stars that can't get work anywhere else.

The movie was pretty damn good. It followed the book almost perfectly. I think that Fraiser guy, Kelsey something... did the voice of Snowball. It was a very intelligent movie. I havent seen it for so long but I think my only complaint was that they didn't add on Beasts of England song. I loved it and think it is a perfect "substitute" for a lazy person who doesn't want to see it. A famous book deserves famous stars... it is not some "desperate attempt" movie for Hollywood stars.

[A-Carrot-By-Dr-Riot]

For some reason I remember Whoopie Goldberg being in it, and that automatically made me associate it with failed careers.

[lapslf]

Yeah, I did like the movie too, but it left out the focus on how they kept telling the people how better of they were without the farmer, which is an essential part in the book. Also, they totally screwed up the ending. But then again, it would be pretty difficult to make it look like you could not see the difference between the humans and the pigs anymore.

[Slizor]

It was an alright book, frankly I thought "Down and out in Paris and London" was better. The only reason Animal Farm is famous is because the right-wingers grasped on to it as an inditement of Communism and the left-wingers grasped on to it because they wanted to distance themselves rom the USSR. It is also a throughly misunderstood book, especially by people on the right.

As for the film, what was with the "Sunny American Capitalism" ending? Fucking propaganda.

[StatiK]

Pink Floyd's Animals is basically the same concept only in music.

[RedSkunk]

At 4/9/04 03:53 PM, greeniemachinie wrote: Pink Floyd's Animals is basically the same concept only in music.

So is Dead Prez's 'Animal in Man'

Hmm. Might be a cover?

[Zalbun]

I read it in 5th grade. My Teacher never read it so I gave it to her. Then I lauighed in her face when she didn't understand it.

[Proteas]

I read Animal Farm about a year ago, and still have it actually... it's really a good read. Though not being familiar with communist history, a friend of mine had to explain the various metaphors for me.

Another good read (though not by Orwell) is "Johnny Got his Gun" by Dalton Trumbough. That book will royally mess with your mind.

[RedSkunk]

At 4/9/04 05:30 PM, Proteas wrote: Another good read (though not by Orwell) is "Johnny Got his Gun" by Dalton Trumbough.

Yeah, I'd recommend it.

[pierrot-le-fou]

I've read the book too, and if you watch the movie it just gets sillier than Orwell's impression he gives you.

[oscilate-wildely]

animal farm is o,k but its only george orwells way of introducing poeple to threal version of communism and to lead you to socialism if you wanna read relly facsinating books by george orwell try 1984 which depicts how capitlism and totalitarianism will eventualy eradicate free thought and will.

[Dagodevas]

I too had to read the book in high school. I also found it to be a very intelligent and enlightening read whereas the rest of my class found it to be boring and stupid (there's the youth of America for you).