At 10/1/10 08:50 PM, esko-man wrote:
At 10/1/10 04:50 PM, WaterShake wrote:
You describe this piece as abstract. Why? What is it your trying to communicate and why did you do it in an "abstract" form?I describe it as abstract because it (aside from the wording) was done intuitively, it's non-representational, it's balanced. It may fit under the style of modernism, but I am expressing exactly what the piece says. I see the traces of content, but an emptiness, the scattered and dizzy remains of the psyche. I didn't pick up on these ideas until I was done working the paint, and that's when I fit the text with the idea.
So when you were making it, there was no clear intent in your head?
I generally disagree with the idea of making things without intent. Sure, it's fun to just draw/paint/create sometimes without focusing too much, but I tend to think of things created in these sessions as closer to doodles than artworks.
Abstraction as a concept doesn't necessarily mean any clear message or emotion has to be communicated, but I find just as much meaning in the second example as the first. I don't know how you can see the first as an expression of anger and not be able to associate the second with anything.
I can see the first as an expression of anger because the artist made it his intent to do so. The paint is layered thick, haphazardly and then attacked with a pallet knife. The deep ominous read has obvious connotations with anger. The artist of the second peice describes his work as "something I made while I was messing around on my computer last night".
Sure artists intent isn't everything, but I think it counts as something. If I were to make a replica of any of todays classic abstract pieces, it would be practically worthless and pointless. It may look the same or seem the same, but the artists intention was not the same. I couldn't paint a black circle on a white canvas and claim it brilliant. Why? Because I would have no belief in it. And I think that much is vital.
What would you classify that piece if not abstract?
Sure it's abstract. But I don't know if i'd call it abstract