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Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-15 12:55:55 Reply

I know im playing on heroic but not even halo 3 was this hard.

Everything seems to shoot me, both grunts and elites all with different ranging weapons so if I poke my head out for a few seconds I would have lost my shields and been reduced to half health. Covenant ships, banshees and big turrets seem to shoot the hell out of me giving me no chance to move anywhere as every enemy seems to lock onto you very easy despite me moving.

I have tried being slow and using cover, using short bursts of bullets and not wasting ammo but that doesnt help for shit. Elites were never this hard to kill, they move sideways so fucking fast that shooting them in the head with BR or headshot sorta weapons is nearly impossible and this is while there shooting you so you cant stay in full zoom.

The only guns that you can rely on are snipers and rocket launchers as they kill in one as the AR is fucking more useless than in halo CE as at least it didnt fucking loose its accuracy the more you shoot. But the guns that have any worth have very short amounts of ammo.

So I cant use cover, guns suck, controls suck, enemys are OP pieces of shit, teammates dont do shit to help except kill the ocasional grunt and the enemy have lock on grenades that get me even when im in cover.

Now I know its not just me as I have completed halo ODST on ledgendary by my self with the only deaths being unlucky. Halo 3 was a bit ridiculous as enemy snipers in that game saw you, and killed you with in a split second so you had to know before hand there were snipers but at LEAST you could kill the enemys. In reach it feels like you cant even kill a grunt with the basic of weapons.


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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-15 13:04:23 Reply

Not to mention online is bullshit.

The respawning systems sucks as it seems to think after 50 people dieing in the same large open area spot with many overhead sniper towers and gun turret encampments isnt so fucking safe and doesnt respawn you anywhere else.

Also the BR in this game is too fucking accurate, im being shot by like 3 guys with it and im dead in 2 seconds from guys halfway across the map. I played a swat map on team 4v4 slayers that wasent to bad and the only deaths were do to shit controls and sensitivty.

The only thing I like about this game is I can change my characters armour and probably is the only thing that is keeping me playing


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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-15 13:19:54 Reply

Thanks for making me have a quick decision on not to buy this game.

Not because it's too hard but the online you described has really put me off.


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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-15 13:34:46 Reply

I'm on the third level of the campaign and yeah, it's significantly harder than H3. I'm playing on legendary SP, I never had this much trouble with legendary in H3.

It's the fact that elites can sponge up so many bullets, including headshots, that gets me. The friendly AI is also retarded (my friend played through the campaign on heroic and was killed more times by spartans than by jackal snipers) and doesn't help.

But what really REALLY annoys me is the third mission. It's a snipe-heavy mission, and I was sniping from a ledge with the sniper rifle and the covenant alternative. And I died. Again and again. From a covenant sniper that was OUTSIDE MY DRAW DISTANCE

Seriously bungie, wtf.


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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-15 18:24:03 Reply

MrPercie umm just a suggestion but you might just suck.


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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-15 18:27:09 Reply

Yeah, sounds like the OP sucks to me. "At least in Halo 3 the assault rifle didn't lose accuracy when it fires!"

Cry some more about games having realistic features, please.


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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-15 20:13:10 Reply

Just completed it on Heroic, I didn't find it too tough, but those Elites with the Fuel Rod Cannons made me scream at the TV a lot.


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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-15 20:42:54 Reply

At 9/15/10 12:55 PM, MrPercie wrote: Elites were never this hard to kill, they move sideways so fucking fast that shooting them in the head with BR

This explains everything.


The only guns that you can rely on are snipers and rocket launchers as they kill in one as the AR is fucking more useless than in halo CE as at least it didnt fucking loose its accuracy the more you shoot. But the guns that have any worth have very short amounts of ammo.

Yes. Because guns that are extremely effective use the most expensive and best material bullets. Also, the AR is not some toy you spray with. Have you tried firing in controlled bursts?

So I cant use cover, guns suck, controls suck, enemys are OP pieces of shit, teammates dont do shit to help except kill the ocasional grunt and the enemy have lock on grenades that get me even when im in cover.

... "Blah Blah Blah I suck Blah Blah Blah."

Now I know its not just me as I have completed halo ODST on ledgendary by my self with the only deaths being unlucky. Halo 3 was a bit ridiculous as enemy snipers in that game saw you, and killed you with in a split second so you had to know before hand there were snipers but at LEAST you could kill the enemys. In reach it feels like you cant even kill a grunt with the basic of weapons.

So you're saying you want the difficulty to be like Halo 3 when everyone bitched about how easy it was but now it's too hard?
Make up your fucking minds people. Do you want an actually challenging game that proves your worth? Or some achievement you spent 40 minutes getting saying how "Pro" you are and how easy and shitty the campaign is. Don't like the game, don't play it.


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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-16 08:21:38 Reply

Stop whining about the online, they'll release a patch for it to fine tune it.


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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-16 08:25:31 Reply

At 9/15/10 01:04 PM, MrPercie wrote: Also the BR in this game is too fucking accurate

hence why they added bloom to the reticule instead of the insanely accurate halo 2 style br

halo 3 had a bit of randomness to the burst, but reach really improved it

and halo reach campaign is not hard at all, it took me and three friends about 5 hours to beat it on legendary and it gets harder with more people so i'm assuming that's the hardest it gets without skulls on

i'm actually glad they upped the difficulty, the campaigns in the other halos were a breeze


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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-16 12:51:57 Reply

At 9/15/10 06:24 PM, possum2 wrote: MrPercie umm just a suggestion but you might just suck.

yeah like me completing halo 3, ODST on ledgendary makes me suck.

At 9/15/10 06:27 PM, ToastedCupcake wrote: Cry some more about games having realistic features, please.

...In a game with aliens and spaceships? Trying to mesh realism with sci-fi aint gunna be the best of ideas. I wouldnt care if the accuracy decreases other time, I just expect to kill things when I dont overdo it by pray n spray

But back on topic. Sure I like the idea of how when I see an honour guard elite or Zealot ill think "OH SHIT" other than the other halo games where you could plow right through them by punching them twice. The abilities do give me some edge but if you get anything other than the bubble shield then the others are pretty useless most the time.

Instant deaths by being stuck, sworded, whacked by an elite or shot with three damn artiliry rounds from any heavy weapon or mounted turret aint exactly fun. Theres no real idea of what to do when this happens as when the elites comes charging at ya all you can do is flee.


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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-16 12:55:01 Reply

That's how campaign is supposed to be. Challenging, like Halo CE and Halo 2. Those games were a nightmare to complete solo on Legendary but damn was it satisfying, plus it yields some boasting rights. I'm on the second last level of Reach myself and Legendary and might get myself to complete it in the next few hours, it's going to be bloody tough though, Revenants are a bitch.

Haven't played the multiplayer yet so I have no comment.

Personally I think the difficulty adds to the appeal but it's a matter of opinion I suppose.


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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-16 13:01:35 Reply

At 9/16/10 08:25 AM, Sekhem wrote: and halo reach campaign is not hard at all, it took me and three friends about 5 hours to beat it on legendary and it gets harder with more people so i'm assuming that's the hardest it gets without skulls on

Sure, you had teammates. You may think "well the difficulty gets harder with more people" but your teammates will be smart enough to counter the difficulty.

Like playing on heroic by your self with marines all using one gun who run into combat and die compared to ledgendary with 3 guys who can alternate between weapons, work together and avoid enemy fire.

if you ever played Left 4 dead you would probably do better on the hardest mode with real players than the second hardest with computers.

Its not that the arines or other noble team dont help at all its just they dont help when I need them to. Like when tackerling two hunters down a long narrow walkway and the only way to kill them is to shoot erm in the back, you would think your teammates would be smart enough to flank erm and you both take shots at them but instead your teammates stick close you and dont do shit because they dont die.


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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-17 20:08:46 Reply

1) The AR is a weapon you spray with. You would have to be an utter tool to use otherwise.
2) DMR is (I think) a 5 shot headshot kill, and much easier to use than the BR, regardless of bloom.
3) Camo is overpowered.
4) See 3.
5) There is a Reach official thread, here.

Oh and its too easy to spawntrap on Cage (although its a beast map).


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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-17 20:10:16 Reply

Kill hunters by jumping over there head and spraying them.

Elites, are a threat.


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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-17 20:23:10 Reply

At 9/15/10 01:04 PM, MrPercie wrote: Also the BR in this game is too fucking accurate, im being shot by like 3 guys with it and im dead in 2 seconds from guys halfway across the map. I played a swat map on team 4v4 slayers that wasent to bad and the only deaths were do to shit controls and sensitivty.

Lol, too accurate? The DMR is pretty much a one shot BR with the main difference being that it's hitscan. If anything, it's essentially a weaker Halo 2 BR (Halo 2 BR four shot, DMR is 5 shot). Also the controls, really? It's so similar to Halo 3 I really can't imagine anyone struggling very much. I remember playing the Beta and it only took me a little while to adapt. Reach's default controls are actually quite similar to Halo 3's Bumper Jumper set up.

Also the AR was infinitely useless in every game it's been in.
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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-17 20:54:21 Reply

Shoot elites with needlers it works well. or do a charged plasma pistol shot then finish them off with your other weapon. and how about playing on normal if heroic is too hard for you? its not rocket science there are difficulty settings for a reason

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Response to Reach Campaign is Hard(no spoilers) 2010-09-18 02:17:11 Reply

first I playedit on heroic and thought it was pretty damn hard. Then after I finished I went solo on legendary. It made heroic seem like a cakewalk. It made me feel quite good once I finished. I was disappointed though that I got nothing but the 2 legendary achievements. I was hoping for some special armor or something unless you count that one addon for the cqb you get on waypoint but I don't care for cqb so meh


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