Castration for all!

[poxpower]

I've been thinking. And this time, I've only spent 4 days in hospital due to cerebral overheat. So I must be getting smarter. Or less dumberer...

So, as I was comtemplating god's creation ( no, not naked women, the earth and stuff)and I realised how just about all of our problems and future problems and problems of everyone everywhere are caused by overabundance of ... people.

I mean, its nice to save people in Africa by feeding them, but as long as they can't keep their cocks in their pants and make 7 babies per family, they're are FUCKED. No matter what we do. Same with India and China. And just about every fucking country where they seem to have a problem with food shortage and overpopulation O.o
And I've been thinking how people always say that we are SOOO priviledged to have out lifestyle because the other countries can't and if everyone on earth lived like us we'd all explode yap yapyaetc etc. I'll admit we probably do live pretty well, but I mean... we don't have 10 fucking babies per family. So its easier to have some money left.

I think we should bring the gift of castration to the world. Fucking yay. Just sterilise mentaly handicaped people and criminals, and people who've had 2-3 children, and we could see some nice benefits 20 years later. I mean just fucking adopt a child if you're so desperate. It'll do a lot more good than bringing "your own seed" into a harsh world to starve.
no?

Obvisouly I'll sound like a Nazi again, but I'm just so right. : )

[bumcheekcity]

At 4/3/04 08:24 AM, -poxpower- wrote: I think we should bring the gift of castration to the world. Fucking yay. Just sterilise mentaly handicaped people and criminals, and people who've had 2-3 children, and we could see some nice benefits 20 years later. I mean just fucking adopt a child if you're so desperate. It'll do a lot more good than bringing "your own seed" into a harsh world to starve.
no?

Funnily enough, people in some Developed countries are seeing a DOWNWARD curve in their population, i.e. less than 2 children for evrry 2 adults. It's strange it should be that way.

[poxpower]

At 4/3/04 08:33 AM, bumcheekcity wrote: Funnily enough, people in some Developed countries are seeing a DOWNWARD curve in their population, i.e. less than 2 children for evrry 2 adults. It's strange it should be that way.

funnily enough those are exceptions
strange it should be that way

wait no its not.

[Reverend-Kyle]

At 4/3/04 08:24 AM, -poxpower- wrote: So, as I was comtemplating god's creation ( no, not naked women, the earth and stuff)and I realised how just about all of our problems and future problems and problems of everyone everywhere are caused by overabundance of ... people.

God... who?

I mean, its nice to save people in Africa by feeding them, but as long as they can't keep their cocks in their pants and make 7 babies per family, they're are FUCKED. No matter what we do. Same with India and China. And just about every fucking country where they seem to have a problem with food shortage and overpopulation O.o

They have these children for economic security. They have many children because most will die at a young age, and they will need the labour of children to subsist.

And I've been thinking how people always say that we are SOOO priviledged to have out lifestyle because the other countries can't and if everyone on earth lived like us we'd all explode yap yapyaetc etc. I'll admit we probably do live pretty well, but I mean... we don't have 10 fucking babies per family. So its easier to have some money left.

We don't need to have 10 fucking babies per family because we (some of us) have the money for there to be no reason for it.

I think we should bring the gift of castration to the world. Fucking yay. Just sterilise mentaly handicaped people and criminals, and people who've had 2-3 children, and we could see some nice benefits 20 years later. I mean just fucking adopt a child if you're so desperate. It'll do a lot more good than bringing "your own seed" into a harsh world to starve.

Why don't we just execute all those worthless mouths while we're at it?

Obvisouly I'll sound like a Nazi again, but I'm just so right. : )

Right, yes. But only on the political spectrum.

[mrpopenfresh]

Yeah, I tend to think like that too. Hitler was a horrible man, but his answer for the lack of natural selection wasn't all that much of a cracked up idea. He eliminate the wrong people though. The jews, the blacks, the gays. They are not humanitys downfall, the dumb/ugly/weak ones are.
Im sure you all have walked past a trailer park and asked yourself: "How the hell did these people managed to survive and yet be so dumb they live in a trailer, eat hot dogs every meal and live off the govements generosity. They don't contribute to society one bit, all they do is leech off all of society's hard workers.

[poxpower]

At 4/3/04 11:29 AM, ohp-kyle wrote: They have these children for economic security. They have many children because most will die at a young age, and they will need the labour of children to subsist.

that's the usual excuse. And its bullshit. Why DO they die so young? Probably lack of water, care and food. All things that get worse as the population increase. Its not like those people are farmers who need lots of strong boys to help them on the farm O.o A lot of them live in cities and almost have to sleep while standing up because the place is too crowded.
Yet they still have 6-7 children.

Its not because of "economical security" my good man, ITS BECAUSE OF THEIR HABITS. Because men won't wear a fucking rubber and want to fuck 4 women at the same time and impregnate them all. I don't think these people would like to have 7 children. Not the women at least, that's for certain. Most of those places where they are overpopulated are dominated by men, and as such have men rules and women aren't worth shit.
So just fucking castrate the bastard. If they need said labor, all they have to do is go into town and find one of the millions who have no work and are starving to come to his filed and work for food. Sounds feasible enough.

We don't need to have 10 fucking babies per family because we (some of us) have the money for there to be no reason for it.

Don't children COST money here? People over here can't AFFORD 7 children. And we're rich. So isn't strange that the people in poor countries who don't even have water and food NEED more children? I think that's bull. What about in China? Biggest country. They had a LAW that stated they couldn't have more than one kid. I think the governement would know if passing such a law would plunge the country in a worse misery or not O.o
The fact that you "need" children to work for you is so illogical and stupid when you really think about it. What if you have 7 kids? 2 will die and 5 will live. And then next generation, there is twice as many people to compete against for food and water. This logic simply CANNOT work.

Why don't we just execute all those worthless mouths while we're at it?

why would we?? You're missing the point. We just don't want them to have children of their own. They can adopt. No need to kill them when they can provide for themselves and others O.o
As for the mentali ill and criminals, let's leave em' out from now on, beause that's just a fucking gay moral debate that there is no way to settle on with the people on this forum.

[FUNKbrs]

Frankly, I'm suprised (or maybe not) that people are so up in arms about what Pox is saying. Just because Hitler did it doesn't make it a bad idea. Hitler's regime also invented the multistage rocket, you know, the one that went to the moon? Hitler's main problem was discriminating along racial lines instead of cultural ones. Also, when he began losing the war, he ran out of money to feed the prisoners in his concentration camps, and had to kill them wholesale or let them starve. That wasn't a planned atrocity. People suffer and starve and are killed whenever the infrastucture that supports them is destroyed.

Ok, enough with the Hitler ass kissing, lemme get to the point:

There should be some sort of criteria for who's allowed to breed and who isn't. The idiots are out breeding the intelligent people, and soon I'll be the only one left. Don't let that happen. Go kick homeless people in the balls today!!

[Jimsween]

If we didn't do something just because the NAZI's did it, we wouldn't have lots of things. Lets face it, the man was insane, but like many other insane people, he was very intellegent, so not all of his ideas are going to be horrible.

[RedSkunk]

God forbid we try to better them through education.

[The-Darklands]

At 4/3/04 11:43 AM, mrpopenfresh wrote:

:They are not humanitys downfall, the dumb/ugly/weak ones are.

what about smart ugly people? i think you're all idiots anyway. We need to colonize other planets thats how a a race in our situation should expand, until we get to fight aliens. Like part of jesuses alien race!

[FUNKbrs]

At 4/3/04 02:42 PM, RoteStinktier wrote: God forbid we try to better them through education.

Hey, the US HAS public education. If you fail here, it's because you're just plain lazy.

[RedSkunk]

At 4/3/04 03:15 PM, JudgeFUNK wrote: Hey, the US HAS public education. If you fail here, it's because you're just plain lazy.

Weren't we talking about Africans and other 3rd world nations with high birth rates? So I'll ignore the dumb comment about everyone in the US who isn't taught well jsut being lazy.

Look at India. China's birthrate has decreased a lot, but it's because of their rather strict limits on the amount of children you can have. In fact, they have a lower fertility rate than the US, and it's actually below the replacement rate (of 2.1). China's fertility rate is currently at 1.8, according to the World Population Data Sheet 2002, population reference bureau.

So India - isn't going as radical as China.
They're educating their populace, they are giving the populace healthcare, they are improving the lives of their population.

And what has it done? A significant decrease in birth rates. And the programs will continue to decrease their fertility rate as their demographics change.

"Castration" is the solution for imbeciles. What needs to happen is increased education (female literacy rates and fertility rates are directly proportional), increased healthcare, and increased contraceptive use.

Perhaps the topic poster should do a little research before blowing off on a topic he doesn't understand at all.

[FUNKbrs]

Hasn't the US gotten into enough trouble trying to "improve" other countries?

I'll worry about overbreeding of idiots in the US first. THEN I'll worry about it in Africa.

[The-King-of-Wolves]

At 4/3/04 08:24 AM, -poxpower- wrote:

:Just sterilise mentaly handicaped people and criminals, and people who've had 2-3 children, and we could see some nice benefits 20 years later.

Nature VS. Nurture debate. Look it up and see why we can't do that.

[RedSkunk]

At 4/3/04 03:42 PM, JudgeFUNK wrote: Hasn't the US gotten into enough trouble trying to "improve" other countries?

I shouldn't of said "try to better them" in my first post, I realized right after hitting post, that it was wordly poorly.

[Reverend-Kyle]

At 4/3/04 11:50 AM, -poxpower- wrote: that's the usual excuse. And its bullshit. Why DO they die so young? Probably lack of water, care and food. All things that get worse as the population increase.

I forgot that the main concern of the sociologist is to lie to those who pay to be educated on the subject.

Its not like those people are farmers who need lots of strong boys to help them on the farm O.o A lot of them live in cities and almost have to sleep while standing up because the place is too crowded.
Yet they still have 6-7 children.

Its not because of "economical security" my good man, ITS BECAUSE OF THEIR HABITS.

I wish I could respond, but I don't even know where to begin. The high birth rate, food shortage, dirty water, and so on, aren't dependent of each other.

[FatherVenom]

Ok, maybe this is stupid, but I think that would hurt a lot and not just physically. Ever seen Fight Club? Guys without their testes are not the prettiest sight, even the normal looking ones. If you would prefer a more cerebral example, how about the main character in The Sun Also Rises by Hemmingway. Granted he had some messed up friends but he couldn't have a normal relationship with the woman he loved who loved him as well.

[bombkangaroo]

why not just leave them be, and allow nature to take its course. those who survive the shitty conditions will be those who are better adapted to live there. (ie: natural selection) untile eventually we get people who are highly adapted to harsh conditions, who can be highly productive. all the useless people who do nothing, but starve, fuck and persecute their own children as witches will eventually "burn themselves out" so to speak.

and viola, passive eugenics, aka darwinism.

[darkphantom]

What is this stupidity about? Since when did evoltiuon and natural selection ever need our help? you see it works like this.

Humans have an advantage over other animals right so humans mutiply and continue to do so... after awhile "geneticley damaged" versions form but they still have an advantage... over your common bird or whatever... after awhile either the damaged versions die out or they profilate and in the long run lessen the rate the human race mutiplys...

Why dose this happen? becasue humans can make it happen. this implies we have too much of an advantage over other creatures in the world and it allows them time to catch up... if it whern't for these "errors" in our socioty we would continue to advance past other forms of life and mutiply eventually destroying everything and then ourselfs due to starvation ect.

So there is no such thing as a better or worse human only ones with diffrent tasks.

[Der-Ubermensch]

This is so hilarious. World leaders, governments and organizations have been debating the issue of overpopulation for decades. Here we are, in this secluded forum, trying to make it a clear cut issue. Bravo!

[FatherVenom]

Hey we do what we do in here. You really think this discussion isn't multifaceted? We have talked about the ethics, how the people would be affected, historical instances, and so forth. What else do you want? Or is it the fact that we are suggesting one solution to the problem? Well that's because that's the thread.

[BFK]

Castrate the Jews!

[SmilezRoyale]

Countries that would ever consider castration as a viable means of controling population would most likely be non theocratic developed nations that don't need that kind of measures to solve the problem in the first place.

Secondly, making laws to do that kind of thing are a HUGE blow in the face to personal liberty.

[tony4moroney]

At 4/3/04 03:30 PM, RedSkunk wrote:

"Castration" is the solution for imbeciles.

poxpower...? if we castrated imbeciles half the people on ng wouldnt be alive

What needs to happen is increased education (female literacy rates and fertility rates are directly proportional), increased healthcare, and increased contraceptive use.

female education is directly proportional to feminism i dont see what good will come from this...

what we need is to keep abortions and sex ed alive. the kids otherwise born would be a bunch of morons that dry hump anything in sight.

repeat after me;

What are we suppose to do?
After all that we've been through...
Wheeeen everything that felt so right is wrong now that the loOove is goneE!!

There is nothing left to prove
Now here's to deny this simple truth
Can't find the reason to keep holding on
Now that the looove is gone!

[robattle]

Well if they're such a problem nuke them.

[D2Kvirus]

At 10/13/07 11:38 AM, BigFuzzyKitten wrote: Castrate the Jews!

When did NG turn into Stamford Bridge?

[morefngdbs]

At 4/3/04 08:24 AM, poxpower wrote: I've been thinking.

;
I thought I smelled something burning !

So, as I was comtemplating god's creation ( no, not naked women, the earth and stuff)and I realised how just about all of our problems and future problems and problems of everyone everywhere are caused by overabundance of ... people.

Actually it seems to be an over abundence of poor, sick, starving ,homeless people.

I mean, its nice to save people in Africa by feeding them,

I think we should bring the gift of castration to the world.

;
Actually Pox Power When I read the part about feeding them & then castration, I thought "Why not put something in the food that as long as they eat it they can't conceive" . I don't know what that could be & whether it should be a drug that makes both male & female infertile, or just 1 sex.
But if you & the thousands of others are incapable of taking care of yourself & your family & you are eating donated food from the many Aid Agencies. You won't be able to impregnate a female or as a female you can't conceive.
Doesn't stop anyone from having sex, everyone is just firing blanks.
Does this seem reasonable to anyone else?

There must be something out there that would work. Plus if it could be a -drug- that after you stop ingesting it for awhile you would become fertile again.
After all, if you get off the aid food & start providing for yourself & your family again, might as well be allowed to use real bullets.

Obvisouly I'll sound like a Nazi again, but I'm just so right. : )

I think the religious nuts & the right to life people will have a real problem with it though. (Like I care what those A.H.'s think).
;-)

[Wooblers]

If you can't feed em,don't breed em.

[Sajberhippien]

At 4/3/04 08:24 AM, poxpower wrote: I mean, its nice to save people in Africa by feeding them, but as long as they can't keep their cocks in their pants and make 7 babies per family, they're are FUCKED. No matter what we do. Same with India and China. And just about every fucking country where they seem to have a problem with food shortage and overpopulation O.o

Note that it is our lifestile that to a big extent force them to keep that shortage. There IS enough food in the world, the problem is that we TAKE food from, for example, Africa. I'd really recommend the movie Darwin's Nightmare.
Here's a trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJhHLUbdU jg