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At 4/2/04 06:26 PM, CrassClock wrote:

At 4/2/04 04:34 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote: Because the Japanese are respectfull and humble, while the French are snooty and pretentious.

What about Americans?

They are lazy, but I don't see what at all this has to do with anything.

At 4/2/04 06:45 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote: Alot of you have missed the fact that I tried to point out that is americans hate the french because of something they supposedly did in WWII. Yet, they don't despise the japanese for bombing Pearl Harbor, mostly because they are the gods of technological materialism.

And I'm saying people don't hate the French because they surrendered in WW2, they don't hate them beause they held out on Iraq either, those don't help it though. People have hated the French since France was united. People like Asian cultures because most asian cultures are very respectfull and humble, they are taught to be that way.

So really, it's a matter of who would you rather hate, someone who bows when you meet them, or someone who acts like you are wasting thier time with your horrible comprehension of the French language.

At 4/2/04 04:34 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote: Because the Japanese are respectfull and humble, while the French are snooty and pretentious. I thought that was rather obvious.

acctually some, not all, japanesse are not respectful. they come over here and rip us off, hurt our woman and they are pigs. not all.

At 4/2/04 09:04 PM, peedee wrote:

acctually some, not all, japanesse are not respectful. they come over here and rip us off, hurt our woman and they are pigs. not all.

Of course not all, but most are. It's part if thier culture.

Stereotypes can be rooted in truth, but it's not necessarily always the case.

Funny you should say that the Japanese are humble, because my two best friends- both Chinese, say that the Japanese will still not admit the atrocities they committed against China in WWII.

And also, you just can't help but be intrigued by a culture that came up with both ninjas and tentacle rape.

(rides off in a Honda to buy a Final Fantasy game, and attempt to play the music on a Yamaha keyboard, while wearing a black shirt as a ninja hood, and watching Dragonball Z)

PS- I don't do half of those things really, just making a point. When do I do anything French?

At 4/2/04 10:15 PM, Jlop985 wrote: Funny you should say that the Japanese are humble, because my two best friends- both Chinese, say that the Japanese will still not admit the atrocities they committed against China in WWII.

What does that have to do with being humble? I mean, I could see if they rubbed it in every day how Japan pwned China that would be an example, but I don't see a connection with not owning up to something and not being humble.

ineffable_fetus, are you always this much of a fag?

My post wasn't 'stupid' it just got you up, like I intended to because I knew you'd make a comeback and, in the process, make a fool of yourself. Happy now?

At some ghey time, ineffable_fetus wrote:

:i am a fgag lololololololol0lol0ollolololol

There we go.

At 4/2/04 08:36 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote:

At 4/2/04 05:42 PM, shitt0r wrote: No I'm not.

Yeah, ya are.

No you didn't.

Yes, I did.

No they aren't

Yes, they are.

Don't you just love quotes like this?

At 4/3/04 05:07 AM, bumcheekcity wrote:

At 4/2/04 08:36 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote:

At 4/2/04 05:42 PM, shitt0r wrote: No I'm not.

Yeah, ya are.

No you didn't.

Yes, I did.

No they aren't

Yes, they are.

Don't you just love quotes like this?

If he wasn't a fag it might've had a shooting chance of seeming cool.

Hey now, I'm all for getting out anger appropriately, that is not shooting anyone, but if you people don't feel like contributing why don't you make a new thread to make fun of each other.

So this doesn't seem like a vendetta I'm actually going to try to get back on topic. People tend to stereotype cultures and, yes, when I think about it many stereotypes have a basis in truth, but that's not a good reason to write off an entire country. With the French it's probably a vocal minority that exhibit the tendency to be snobish, much like the situation with the militant Iraqis. And yes I tend to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but isn't that a good thing?

Fetus, did you even read my post? The Japanese committed atrocities against the Chinese. At least the Germans recognize that there was a Holocaust.

At 4/2/04 08:36 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote:
Yet again, all you accomplished is said a bunch of crap, and did not back up a word. Not a rebuttal. Are all your posts this bad?

Once again, Jimsween "keeps a debate going" in the time-honoured way, which isn't whiny, annoying, or pathetic in any way.

Irony, Jim, is too far out of your sight.

At 4/2/04 08:34 PM, The_King_of_Wolves wrote: God Bless America! *salutes*

*snipes*

At 4/2/04 06:31 PM, GoldenClock wrote:

At 4/2/04 06:29 PM, lordkabita wrote: Computers=Chips..

Who do you think designed the first chips, genius?

Genius took most of the credit, but we all know it was really Japanese engineers locked away in some American basement lab - isn't it obvious?!

At 4/2/04 08:46 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote:
People have hated the French since France was united. People like Asian cultures because most asian cultures are very respectfull and humble, they are taught to be that way.

Yerah, they were really humble and respectful when they sneaked up on you guys in Pearl Harbor.

So really, it's a matter of who would you rather hate, someone who bows when you meet them, or someone who acts like you are wasting thier time with your horrible comprehension of the French language.

I have never seen an american give someone who dosen't speak acceptable english the time of day. So logically, I must hate them with all my heart.

There is a reason why we hate the French and like the Japanese. You say that the French were cowards during WWII and wouldn't help us correct. Well they have already seen enough bloodshed and destruction during WWI. If you look at WWI then you will get the idea why the French didn't help Britan and the US. As for the Japanese we kind of feel sorry for what we have done with the Atomic Bomb. Plus trade routes and trading is why we like them so much. There was a topic one time about the Atomic Bomb. Did we drop the A Bomb on Japan to win the war of to scare Stalin. Think about that one and email me what you think.

At 4/3/04 05:01 AM, shitt0r wrote:

At some ghey time, ineffable_fetus wrote:

i am a fgag lololololololol0lol0ollolololol

There we go.

You're a dumbass.

At 4/3/04 08:20 AM, D2KVirus wrote:

At 4/2/04 08:36 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote:
Yet again, all you accomplished is said a bunch of crap, and did not back up a word. Not a rebuttal. Are all your posts this bad?

Once again, Jimsween "keeps a debate going" in the time-honoured way, which isn't whiny, annoying, or pathetic in any way.

Irony, Jim, is too far out of your sight.

Do you actually have a rebuttal or are you just going to keep makingyourself look like an ass?

At 4/3/04 11:30 AM, mrpopenfresh wrote:

At 4/2/04 08:46 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote:
People have hated the French since France was united. People like Asian cultures because most asian cultures are very respectfull and humble, they are taught to be that way.

Yerah, they were really humble and respectful when they sneaked up on you guys in Pearl Harbor.

I don't see what bombing pearl harbor has to do with respect. The Japanese were simply following orders from thier emporer, who they were incredibly loyal to. Really, explain what that has to do with being humble and respectfull.

So really, it's a matter of who would you rather hate, someone who bows when you meet them, or someone who acts like you are wasting thier time with your horrible comprehension of the French language.

I have never seen an american give someone who dosen't speak acceptable english the time of day. So logically, I must hate them with all my heart.

And what does that have to do with the argument at hand? Was it a long time since you last insulted Americans so you just had to do it again?

At 4/3/04 07:32 AM, Jlop985 wrote: Fetus, did you even read my post? The Japanese committed atrocities against the Chinese. At least the Germans recognize that there was a Holocaust.

Again, what does that have to do with being humble and respectfull? Killing a person doesn't mean you don't respect them, killing someone and then bragging about it, or spitting in thier face, would. I asked you to prove how these "atrocities" mean that they are not respectfull or humble, and you have not done it. Thats what you have to do to prove a point, mmkay?

At 4/3/04 12:23 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote:
I don't see what bombing pearl harbor has to do with respect. The Japanese were simply following orders from thier emporer, who they were incredibly loyal to. Really, explain what that has to do with being humble and respectfull.

Is it respectful to have a suprise attack on someone who wasn't expecting it at all? Was it honorable to attack your ennemy who was unprepared for it?

And what does that have to do with the argument at hand? Was it a long time since you last insulted Americans so you just had to do it again?

I was merely poiting out how retarded your lagic was by using it in a similar scenario, replacing the french by americans.

At 4/3/04 01:01 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote:

At 4/3/04 12:23 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote:
I don't see what bombing pearl harbor has to do with respect. The Japanese were simply following orders from thier emporer, who they were incredibly loyal to. Really, explain what that has to do with being humble and respectfull.

Is it respectful to have a suprise attack on someone who wasn't expecting it at all? Was it honorable to attack your ennemy who was unprepared for it?

First of all, Honor has nothing to do with this. Second, it is respectfull to have a suprise attack on someone, as long as you do not prolong thier suffering or disgrace them in some way. Third, it should not have been a suprise attack, the fact that it was a suprise was entirely the US's fault.

And what does that have to do with the argument at hand? Was it a long time since you last insulted Americans so you just had to do it again?

I was merely poiting out how retarded your lagic was by using it in a similar scenario, replacing the french by americans.

The logic works, Americans often are pretentious. Are you denying that?

Here's an article from the LA times:

Los Angeles Times -- August 18, 2001

Apology Sought for Japanese Atrocities
Rights: Asian American groups demanding reparations to war victims will demonstrate at a San Francisco event marking the U.S.-Japan peace treaty.

By K. CONNIE KANG, TIMES STAFF WRITER

Gearing up for a Sept. 8 protest against Japan, Asian American human rights groups in Los Angeles on Friday urged Japan to admit its World War II atrocities, issue a formal apology and make reparations to the victims.

Without coming to terms with its wartime past, Japan will not enjoy credibility in the community of nations, said Robert Tsang of the Alliance for Preserving the Truth of the Sino-Japanese War, whose family came from Manchuria.

After the Japanese invasion of Manchuria in 1931, his grandparents were hounded by Japanese soldiers who barged into their home any time of the day and night looking for his father, who had fled, said Tsang, a chemical engineer who manages a medical office building in Little Tokyo. But for the Japanese invasion, he would be living today in his ancestral land where his family had an apple orchard, he told a Little Tokyo news conference.

Representatives of the coalition, whose members include activists from Japan, suggested that the Japanese government follow the example of that nation's playwright Yoshiji Watanabe, who has written a play seeking atonement for the sins of his father, a soldier in the imperial army, and his country.

The two-act play, "Reunion," is scheduled for a tour of seven U.S. cities, including Los Angeles, to coincide with events in San Francisco commemorating the 50th anniversary of the signing of the peace treaty between the United States and Japan.

Organizers of the Sept. 8 protest, which will include an outdoor concert at the San Francisco Civic Center, say they will blast away outside with Asian and Western rock music as dignitaries from the United States, Japan and other nations mark the occasion at a state dinner in the ornate San Francisco City Hall.

"The Japanese government's attitude is arrogant, racist and very insulting to the victims," said UC Berkeley professor L. Ling-chi Wang, organizer of an international conference on Japan's World War II responsibilities, scheduled for Sept. 6-9 in San Francisco.

Dr. Kenji Irie, a naturalized Japanese American physician who has been practicing in Little Tokyo for nearly two decades, said he is troubled by some of the recent events in Japan, including the rewriting of middle school textbooks to sanitize ugly chapters in Japan's history, and Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's visit Monday to the Yasukuni Shrine to honor Japan's war dead.

Only by issuing an official apology, backed by monetary compensation, can the next generation of Japanese have pride in their country, Irie said.

Japanese writer Kinue Tokudome, who lives in the United States, said Americans need to understand that this country has maintained that all the claims against Japan were settled in the 1951 peace treaty, a position identical to Japan's.

But victims, including former sex slaves, euphemistically called "comfort women," say their individual rights were not waived by the peace treaty because Japan did not even admit to the existence of sex slaves when the treaty was signed. They say they want an official apology and reparations from the government, not from a private fund.

Repeating his government's position, Consul Yasu Fujii of the Japanese Consulate in Los Angeles said the claims against Japan were settled in 1951 and that Japan has already apologized and made reparations.

So, seeing how the Japanese government refuses to acknowledge the atrocities committed during the Sino-Japanese War, and that a significant portion of the Japanese people deny that the acts ever occurred, I draw my conclusion that the Japanese's pride does not allow them to confess to the brutal murder of hundreds of thousands of Chinese civilians, not to mention American POW's as well. The Chinese have sought a simple apology, but the Japanese have not even expressed regret.

if you need to see the grisly details for yourself, here are some links.

http://www.centurychina.com/wiihist/confess/demondoc.html http://www.centurychina.com/wiihist/germwar/germwar.htm http://www.tribo.org/nanking/ http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/nanking.html

At 4/3/04 02:28 PM, Jlop985 wrote: So, seeing how the Japanese government refuses to acknowledge the atrocities committed during the Sino-Japanese War, and that a significant portion of the Japanese people deny that the acts ever occurred, I draw my conclusion that the Japanese's pride does not allow them to confess to the brutal murder of hundreds of thousands of Chinese civilians, not to mention American POW's as well. The Chinese have sought a simple apology, but the Japanese have not even expressed regret.

You can draw all the conclusions you want, but that doesn't prove a point. Until you can make an argument as to why them not confessing makes them not humble or respectfull, you haven't proved a thing.

JAPANESE PEOPLE ARROGANT. ARROGANCE NOT HUMILITY. ARROGANCE OPPOSITE OF HUMILITY.

At 4/3/04 05:30 PM, Jlop985 wrote: JAPANESE PEOPLE ARROGANT. ARROGANCE NOT HUMILITY. ARROGANCE OPPOSITE OF HUMILITY.

And what is your evidence that they are arrogant? They could very well be denying it out of shame, which would only make thier humbleness greater.

Ph33r teh 5chweenie. Teh Schweenie > j00.

At 4/3/04 05:40 PM, JudgeFUNK wrote: Ph33r teh 5chweenie. Teh Schweenie > j00.

What's your point?