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Damn it, this should have been with the other post.

At 8/18/10 12:38 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 8/18/10 08:53 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: because it involves private property...

Is a cemetary not private property?

The point being that your right to free speech ends when you start harassing people. We have laws against criminal harassment, that's what Phelps and his group's activities should fall under.

They aren't protesting a particular person or the family of a person. They're protesting the US military. And they just so happen to be outside the cemetery (as in, across the street, on the sidewalk, etc.), and just so happen to be protesting on the same day and time as a funeral.

At 8/18/10 09:45 PM, TheThing wrote: A ceremony is a ceremony in the eyes of the law. And you may say the intentions of the protesters is to harass and cause further grief, but they will say it is to protest the acceptance of gays in America, and this is the most effective way to get that message across.

Then why aren't they protesting in front of a GLBT Support Center?

But these people are on public property, which means they have the ability to assemble and to express whatever views they want, where ever they want. As long as they don't impede the procession or trespass, they can protest.

Then what difference does it make if they are in front of the cemetery or 300 yards away? They're on public property either way, and they're not there to protest the funeral or the people attending.

At 8/18/10 09:54 PM, TheThing wrote: They aren't protesting a particular person or the family of a person. They're protesting the US military. And they just so happen to be outside the cemetery (as in, across the street, on the sidewalk, etc.), and just so happen to be protesting on the same day and time as a funeral.

Okay, I'll play along.

If their intention was to protest the U.S. Military, why not protest in front of a U.S. Military Base instead of some random street corner where a funeral for a U.S. Service Member just so happens to be taking place at?

The first amendment doesn't truly grant freedom of speech, try saying fire in a movie threat and see what happens, protesting at a funeral is harassment.

At 8/18/10 11:25 PM, Proteas wrote: WHY ARE THEY SUCH HORRIBLE PEOPLE WHO PROTEST IN FRONT OF FUNERALS

They do it because they can, and they get people like you fired up and angry. They're attention whoring trolls; they're getting more attention by doing something controversial, like protesting at a funeral.

If they protested at a military base, or a GLBT Center, they'd just be another group protesting in front of the building. But at a funeral, they're Westboro Baptist Church, protesting the homosexual scourge that the military is protecting.

At 8/21/10 12:41 AM, TheThing wrote: protesting the homosexual scourge that the military is protecting.

The military, protecting homosexuality, ha.

At 8/21/10 12:41 AM, TheThing wrote: They do it because they can, and they get people like you fired up and angry. They're attention whoring trolls; they're getting more attention by doing something controversial, like protesting at a funeral.

Sort of like... you, who just tried his best to get such a reaction from me?

At 8/21/10 12:48 AM, LordJaric wrote:

At 8/21/10 12:41 AM, TheThing wrote: protesting the homosexual scourge that the military is protecting.

The military, protecting homosexuality, ha.

That's the way they see it.

At 8/21/10 06:52 AM, Proteas wrote:

At 8/21/10 12:41 AM, TheThing wrote: They do it because they can, and they get people like you fired up and angry. They're attention whoring trolls; they're getting more attention by doing something controversial, like protesting at a funeral.

Sort of like... you, who just tried his best to get such a reaction from me?

No, I wasn't trying to get a reaction from you. and if you feel I was, it was unintentional. I was just trying to explain why what they're doing is legal. I said it much earlier that I disagree with what they are doing, but they have the ability to, along with justification.