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I'm sickened. I'll continue later.

Iraq is still not a friendly place. Saddam had a decent police and military force, a pity we had to disband them.. Or did we?

Did we have this kind of problem when we rebuilt Japan? Jeez, I'm starting to think we need to buy a gajillion tons of cement and just flatten and pave the whole country... maybe throw in a couple of ramps, and a rail or two every once and a while, then we can ship all those damn skaters over to Iraq... Vote for me in 2024, and make this dream a reality.

At 3/31/04 03:27 PM, JMHX_DeLux wrote: I'm sickened. I'll continue later.

Please dont. The ones here are enough.

Out of interest, does the mainstream American Media ever give reports of this stufF?

I wonder how many newspapers will lead with these images tomorrow morning.

i dont give a shit about bush, hes a fucking pussy, he cant even eat a pretzel whitout choking on it

At 3/31/04 03:56 PM, Mr_Blanko wrote: i dont give a shit about bush, hes a fucking pussy, he cant even eat a pretzel whitout choking on it

Thankyou for your unique point of view, I think I speak for all of us when I felt my IQ drop a point or two.

But seriously, please dont say stuff like that. It's annoying, generalised and has no input to a political discussion.

At 3/31/04 03:56 PM, Mr_Blanko wrote: i dont give a shit about bush, hes a fucking pussy, he cant even eat a pretzel whitout choking on it

This isn't about Bush's intelligence. It's about his unwillingness to bring troops home that are being burned alive and hung from bridges, and then acting like nothing's wrong, that we're being treated as liberators.

If this is what liberation looks like, I want none of it.

What were we doing differently in Japan, they have an even higher standard of living than the United States, I'd like to see the same thing happen in Iraq, but something is different, I don't know if it's our policies, or Iraq.

There are terrorists, there are some remnants of the former regime that are enemies of freedom and enemies of democracy, but democracy is taking root and we are making important progress

Yay for my daily dose of "freedom" propaganda.

We should have finished the dogs off during the crusades... All of you thank God someone like me isn't in power.

At 3/31/04 06:02 PM, Ruination wrote: We should have finished the dogs off during the crusades... All of you thank God someone like me isn't in power.

Thou shall not kill?

I'm not sure Big G approves of this war business.

At 3/31/04 06:08 PM, CrassClock wrote:

Thou shall not kill?

I'm not sure Big G approves of this war business.

We have killed many in his name in the past... He hasn't voiced any complaints as of yet.

At 3/31/04 06:12 PM, Ruination wrote: We have killed many in his name in the past... He hasn't voiced any complaints as of yet.

9-11?

At 3/31/04 07:27 PM, CrassClock wrote:

At 3/31/04 06:12 PM, Ruination wrote: We have killed many in his name in the past... He hasn't voiced any complaints as of yet.

9-11?

Since when did god know how to fly a plane.

At 3/31/04 07:38 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote: Since when did god know how to fly a plane.

Since he created them, I guess.

At 3/31/04 07:43 PM, CrassClock wrote:

At 3/31/04 07:38 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote: Since when did god know how to fly a plane.

Since he created them, I guess.

...What the hell are you talking about?

At 3/31/04 04:39 PM, Dr_Arbitrary wrote: What were we doing differently in Japan, they have an even higher standard of living than the United States, I'd like to see the same thing happen in Iraq, but something is different, I don't know if it's our policies, or Iraq.

It's Iraq. They invented civilization, so their not exactly good with the whole "America>th4n j00" thing we keep spewing out. It's hard to explain to the people who invented mathematics as we know them a thousand years before we westerners quit trying to eat wood that they have a lot to learn from us.

Liberate from what? Take away a government and replace it with something worse? Kill more than 10,000 civilians plus the defending army? Steal oil?

The 'war on terror' creates terror and angers half the world. The USA defied United Nations rules and was supposed to be stopped by the other UN nations, but who could stop USA superpower?

At 3/31/04 04:39 PM, Dr_Arbitrary wrote: What were we doing differently in Japan, they have an even higher standard of living than the United States, I'd like to see the same thing happen in Iraq, but something is different, I don't know if it's our policies, or Iraq.

I think the problem is that nothing is different. In 50 years the ways you rebuild a country change drastically, the standard of living is higher, the population density is higher, technology is more open to the poor (which makes it much easier for random people to get guns), ect. Iraq is really the first occupation of a signifigantly modern country, that fact needed much more consideration when planning how to handle it to begin with.

Also, it does depend on the culture, the Japanese are, or were, a very respectfull, loyal people. Which is one of the reasons why we kept the emporer as a figurehead. If we had some sort of Islamic cleric (like the pope to the catholics) telling the Iraqis to cooperate then it might just have the same effect.

At 3/31/04 08:03 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote: ...What the hell are you talking about?

ji-had

We were talking about how God is involved in this, remember?

At 3/31/04 08:41 PM, Adun wrote: Liberate from what? Take away a government and replace it with something worse? Kill more than 10,000 civilians plus the defending army? Steal oil?

What is your argument here? You make alot of claims but don't back them up, how is the government we are replacing thiers with worse? How are we stealing oil? And most of all, what did those last two questions have to do with the question "Liberate from what?"? Seems like someone just had an itch to rant.

The 'war on terror' creates terror and angers half the world. The USA defied United Nations rules and was supposed to be stopped by the other UN nations, but who could stop USA superpower?

What United Nations rules said that the US could not invade? I don't remember a "No Invasion of Iraq" resolution passing, did you by chance get this from out of your ass? The US was never "supposed" to be stopped by anyone, France just didn't want to fight, if they wanted to stop the US, they would have at least tried to draft a resolution to do so.

If you watch someone be murdered and do absolutely nothing, does that make you a saint? No, that makes you selfish.

At 3/31/04 08:57 PM, CrassClock wrote:

At 3/31/04 08:03 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote: ...What the hell are you talking about?

ji-had

We were talking about how God is involved in this, remember?

No, no such thing ever happened. I asked when god learned to fly a plane. Which if anything would imply that god doesn't take vengance, people do.

At 3/31/04 09:05 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote: people do.

In his name.

At 3/31/04 10:18 PM, CrassClock wrote:

people do.

In his name.

Let's play the God card for a while. If he did indeed want to spite us Christians and Catholics, he would not have let 9-11 happen in the first place. All that accomplished was to reinstill the hatred we once had for muslims, blinding us to what is the true core of their beliefs, identical to our own. There will be another holy war between Christianity and the muslim faith, far more deadly than the last, I guarantee it.

At 3/31/04 10:18 PM, CrassClock wrote:

At 3/31/04 09:05 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote: people do.

In his name.

Oh wow, in his name, so what that means god is obviously doing it, because some people did it with him in mind.

At 3/31/04 10:48 PM, Ruination wrote: All that accomplished was to reinstill the hatred we once had for muslims, blinding us to what is the true core of their beliefs, identical to our own.

I see

At 3/31/04 06:02 PM, Ruination wrote: We should have finished the dogs off during the crusades... All of you thank God someone like me isn't in power.

So you have beliefs identical to those of dogs or are you just being a hypocrite?

At 3/31/04 10:56 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote: Oh wow, in his name, so what that means god is obviously doing it, because some people did it with him in mind.

God only exists in people's minds so yes, it does.

At 3/31/04 11:04 PM, CrassClock wrote:

At 3/31/04 10:56 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote: Oh wow, in his name, so what that means god is obviously doing it, because some people did it with him in mind.

God only exists in people's minds so yes, it does.

Proof?

The bottom line -- these men are dead, and we are NOT WANTED THERE.