At 8/2/10 07:13 PM, Serphyas wrote:
You really want to throw politics into this? REALLY? In the instance of piracy which is the topic at hand name one person who felt remorse for doing it and didn't get treated the same way as other people who pirated anything? Bottom line wither the system is lient on you in their eyes you will still be a thief. Feeling bad about doing it to many means nothing because feeling bad didn't stop the person from doing it. You feel no remorse for stealing you stated several times you enjoy doing it. So for you it doesn't matter.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain an idea without accepting it. So entertain me for a bit...
I accept what you say. Parts I agree with and parts I don't. But you if think everything you say is that black and white then you are naive. VERY NAIVE. A thief is a thief wither he admits it or NOT. A thief can not tell another thief not to steal IF that thief continues to steal as well. Are you implying im not educated? Alright since you are so adamant about your stand point.. TURN yourself in right now for piracy and let us know how your situation plays out. It's hard for me not to feel the way I feel about comments a hypocrite says.
I just don't understand your notion of "wasting money." You seem to think that stealing is equivalent to "not wanting to waste money," a correlation which is simply beyond my comprehension. But as long as we agree in thinking that pirates do not contribute anything towards industry, it's dandy.
I didn't say that now did I..i said most people. NOT most people and myself. If I don't want to waste money on something then it means I DON"T WANT IT be it free or not. NOW if I want it and can get it for free legally than I will. A lot of things are beyond your comprehension. I didn't state my opinion on piracy one way or another. I stated my opinion of a pirate criticizing and lecturing OTHER PIRATES ON THEM being wrong (in their own way of saying it). Seeing as how you are one you have no grounds to tell other people they should stop justifying why they do things simply because you are a "honest thief".
I have news for you: Wasting money is just one part of the consumer-oriented society we live in; it stands opposite the ability to make a GOOD decision. And it's easier now then ever to make an informed decision about a product. The very same tool a pirate uses to steal - the computer - can be used even MORE QUICKLY to review the product they're about to steal through the internet and see if is a worthy purchase. A purchase with money.
No wasting money is apart of frivolous spenders who buy things just to keep up with everyone else or because they FEEL they need it. One could say anything that any money you spend on anything that isn't absolutely necessary is a waste of money but that depends on the person. IS that my view no. No where did you see me say because something is a waste of money they should spend it. I know how the economy works thank you. But again this isn't about that....it's about piracy. Other peoples review of anything is subjective since YOU yourself are not experiencing it. I base my decisions of MY OWN EXPERIENCE WITH SOMETHING. Every game I have purchased has been worth every penny I paid because well I didn't spend 50 dollars on it. I simply waited for supply and demand to decrease and brought it as at a reasonable price. Notice what i said REASONABLE! And if you say everything that's priced in the beginning of release is reasonable I'll laugh hysterically. Most things that are priced isn't priced at its true value...it is based of several factors the biggest, how much a person is willing to pay for said merchandise AND how big a profit the company wishes to make. Because If you were to buy said merchandise prior to inflation you will see that the dollar value is substantially different. If you don't believe me look it up yourself.
No one is forcing them to consume this product, this videogame, so whether or not they waste your money is ultimately up to them, the customer. Don't blame the producer of a non-essential good for ripping you off. Which leads me to my next point...
I can blame whoever I want. I own my brain all rights to any and all logical, illogical, accurate, inaccurate thoughts that are developed in it. Maybe it is the companies fault and maybe it ISN'T. But you can't base others peoples decisions on why they do what they do based on your logic. Everyone isn't you. Frankly to me I'm not saying the person who pirates is not doing anything wrong with pirating nor am i saying with absolute certainty if it was cheaper it there would be none. WHAT I am saying is their might be alot less of it. BUT you as a pirater can not blame anyone for anything when YOU are just as wrong if not worse than them. IN FACT in MY opinion you are worse than piraters who make inane excuses for piracy because you think you are somehow above them for doing it based on you saying you openly do it.
Before we move on, take one more look at the last sentence: "I for one won''t shell out thousands of dollars for a damn thing that isn't something a life necessity." It's so tongue-in-cheek and subtle, so poetic in its contradiction, that I would've laughed if I didn't think you actually meant it. This sentence says, in essence, "I will, without hesitation, steal a product that I feel costs too much."
how exactly is it a contradiction? I have no spent thousands of dollars on things I don't need. You don't know what I spend my money on. And no it's not. I said I wouldn't spend thousands of dollars on SOMETHING I DON'T NEED! If i need it then ill take the appropriate steps to purchase it. I need a car which costs thousands of dollars and stealing one isn't something i'd even remotely consider doing. It's called saving up to buy one. IF I WANT IT I'll buy it. If i cant afford it I won't get it. NOW if i pirate something so fucking what...I pirated it. I don't need to make an excuse nor do i need to boast about it because I chose not to make excuses. For you to connect those dots is laughable. You don't know what I'll do in any given situation because you don't know me. SO in essence YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT 'This sentence says, in essence, "I will, without hesitation, steal a product that I feel costs too much." Don't put words in my mouth..If that's how i felt then that's what I would SAY!
The reason the "thing" (which I assume means software, since it's appearing in a discussion about piracy) is priced so highly is not because it is a necessity but because it is a high-grade,
Oh please you are truely a piece of work. If anything was priced that way companies would not be making as big a profit as they make. You are ...I can't even think of what to refer to you as right now. If that was the case then you should pay for all the stuff you STOLE since you are saying its worth its value. ONCE AGAIN way to make anything you say about value on the companies part MOOT!
And what is this about ripping you off? Who is? What artists' CDs are you talking about?
They get get a couple of cents on the dollar for albumbs sold. And out of that they have to pay the record label BACK for making any music video related to the album and advertising. The concerts that they host THEY have to front the money for which sets the ticket price which they get. DO a little research on that.
And you know what? Fuck your notions of convenience. Your opinions on the worthiness of these worthless items mean fuck-all in a cold, heartless capitalist industry. These products are produced and sold for money, not praise or adoration, and the creator profits: THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. If you don't feel a product is worth the money, there is no rational alternative that involves stealing that product.
Says the thief....