So I actually watched "Glenn Beck"

[1jax14]

I consider myself a moderate leaning liberal (mostly because of how insane many conservatives are now... though I don't even know if I would consider them conservatives any more, they are too far off.)
I've seen clips of Glenn Beck, and I decided to watch his show to see if he was actually that insane. Maybe the clips are taken out of context, I thought. Either way, I wanted to find out for myself. And after all, maybe it would just be so ridiculous it would give me a good laugh.

Answer: None of the above

I was shocked. Here is a summary of that show.

- *crying*
- Imagine a world...
- Now imagine a world...
- Where would you like to live?
- Contracts are useless.
- Bills are useless.
- Paper is unnecessary.
- We should be able to just shake hands and agree on something.
- FDR destroyed the shape of the economy.
- Woodrow Wilson was the worst president.
- Woodrow Wilson admitted that he hated America.
- *crying*
- *gibberish*
- This is no longer America.

I have to admit, I was pretty surprised. So have you watched Glenn Beck? A whole show? Thoughts?

[Warforger]

I watched half way of one episode, I enjoyed looking at some of his hypocrisy and then realize how bad the "US has the best healthcare!" argument is when he tried describing how good it was.

[funnyhomeboy]

My dad said that Fox News was the only place to actually get the right news. I believed him for a time.

Then I turned 10.

I tried to follow him, but half of the time I could tell that he was basing a lot of his arguments based off of heavy nationalistic sentiment. He seems like a nice guy, but he doesn't seem very sincere to me. Half of the show is him crying, which might explain why he's going to go blind in a year.

[1jax14]

At 7/26/10 10:12 PM, Warforger wrote: I watched half way of one episode, I enjoyed looking at some of his hypocrisy and then realize how bad the "US has the best healthcare!" argument is when he tried describing how good it was.

Exactly.

[chi-master08]

Glenn Beck just infuriates me. I watched maybe one episode total, which just means that I've seen enough bits to combine as one episode. His logic is just ridiculous! Even if he does have good intentions, he just comes off as a dick to me just because he thinks his ideas are great even though he usually has no idea about what he is talking about.

[peanutfoot932]

Glenn Beck once said that we got progressivism from "the same German intellectuals who brought [us] fascism, brought [us] Communism, and brought [us]... uh... Nazis."

What really boggles my mind is that the man calls himself a libertarian. It makes me want to smack him.

[Elfer]

I've never bothered watching the show. From what I've seen of him, he seems to be extremely opinionated, but not that smart. I don't need to watch his show to feel like a clever liberal, it just seems like a waste of time.

If I'm going to listen to someone who I disagree with, I'd prefer if it was someone who made cogent, difficult arguments.

[orangebomb]

Glenn Beck is an idiot, and he likes to overblow certain topics like its life and death, not to mention he was big on the "birther" movement and the Texas secession talk, which diminished his credibility even more than before. He's perfect for Fox News and the voice of the Tea party, so I'll give him that much, but when Beck said he was a libertarian, that's when I stopped paying attention to him altogether.

[peanutfoot932]

At 7/27/10 09:04 AM, Elfer wrote: If I'm going to listen to someone who I disagree with, I'd prefer if it was someone who made cogent, difficult arguments.

Yeah, same here. I like to talk to a thinking conservative.

[SmilezRoyale]

At 7/27/10 02:01 AM, peanutfoot932 wrote: Glenn Beck once said that we got progressivism from "the same German intellectuals who brought [us] fascism, brought [us] Communism, and brought [us]... uh... Nazis."

What really boggles my mind is that the man calls himself a libertarian. It makes me want to smack him.

Actually on this matter he has a point. Progressivism was inspired by German idealist philosophers. I don't know about communism of the soviet nature. But i dislike the way he melodramatically makes arguments.

[X-Gary-Gigax-X]

Pff, Glenn Beck isn't looking to win over progressives, you numbskulls. Everything he has ever said has been the antithesis of progressivism and flys in the face of their agendas. It's no wonder you can't find a thing you like about the man.

[adrshepard]

At 7/28/10 06:17 PM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: Pff, Glenn Beck isn't looking to win over progressives, you numbskulls. Everything he has ever said has been the antithesis of progressivism and flys in the face of their agendas. It's no wonder you can't find a thing you like about the man.

Sorry, you aren't allowed to post in this thread unless you hate Glenn Beck and believe he is Satan's hellspawn.

Get over him already, people.

If his huge following drives you crazy, ask yourself this: would you rather have a cult icon who stood for lambasting America and all its pursuits for the sake of financial equality and global unity? Or do you look down upon those who like the idea of wealth and power?

[Warforger]

At 7/28/10 06:17 PM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: Pff, Glenn Beck isn't looking to win over progressives, you numbskulls. Everything he has ever said has been the antithesis of progressivism and flys in the face of their agendas. It's no wonder you can't find a thing you like about the man.

Like intelligence. I know, I guess intelligence isn't important and is opposite of our agenda, oh now it makes sense, wouldn't be surprised if he grew up in a rural town in Alabama or something like that, maybe his sister is also his mom or something, that goes against our agenda too. Oh those attempts of bringing so called witches to justice by Republican Senators makes so much sense now!

The reason most people hate him is because he acts like he's an expert, which he's not, and acts like he's obviously right, which he's not, and acts like he isn't a hypocrite, which he is. I would be fine with a Conservative pundit who was against Liberals, just as long as he/she knew what they were talking about, didn't act like Liberals are spawns of Satan and admitted his/her mistakes, but thats the exact opposite of Glenn Beck.

[Camarohusky]

At 7/28/10 06:34 PM, adrshepard wrote: Get over him already, people.

'Twould be easy, but alas a large group of the illinformed and lazy believe every word he says. Especially when it is twisted or wrong.

[X-Gary-Gigax-X]

At 7/28/10 06:36 PM, Warforger wrote: Like intelligence. I know, I guess intelligence isn't important and is opposite of our agenda, oh now it makes sense,

Aww, don't be snooty.

wouldn't be surprised if he grew up in a rural town in Alabama or something like that, maybe his sister is also his mom or something,

He grew up in Seatle Washington. And his mom commited suicide when he was growing up.

that goes against our agenda too. Oh those attempts of bringing so called witches to justice by Republican Senators makes so much sense now!

Say whatever you want about them and I'll agree

The reason most people hate him is because he acts like he's an expert, which he's not, and acts like he's obviously right, which he's not, and acts like he isn't a hypocrite, which he is. I would be fine with a Conservative pundit who was against Liberals, just as long as he/she knew what they were talking about, didn't act like Liberals are spawns of Satan and admitted his/her mistakes, but thats the exact opposite of Glenn Beck.

"White house, you know what to do~ ;)"

[Warforger]

At 7/28/10 10:45 PM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote:

At 7/28/10 06:36 PM, Warforger wrote: Like intelligence. I know, I guess intelligence isn't important and is opposite of our agenda, oh now it makes sense,

Aww, don't be snooty.

Ironic because snooty is the perfect word to use to describe Glenn Beck.

At 7/28/10 10:45 PM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: He grew up in Seatle Washington. And his mom commited suicide when he was growing up.

Yah, I was jokin'

At 7/28/10 10:45 PM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote:

The reason most people hate him is because he acts like he's an expert, which he's not, and acts like he's obviously right, which he's not, and acts like he isn't a hypocrite, which he is. I would be fine with a Conservative pundit who was against Liberals, just as long as he/she knew what they were talking about, didn't act like Liberals are spawns of Satan and admitted his/her mistakes, but thats the exact opposite of Glenn Beck.

"White house, you know what to do~ ;)"

But I thought the point of Pundits was to convince us they were right, rather then convincing us they're wrong.

[thenewbies]

I have to say, people like Glenn Beck and O'Reilly are basically part of FNC's "plan." Compared to CNN, Fox News has way higher TV ratings. People are just watching things that are more exciting about the news. I bet quarter of the traffic is just people who watch him act like an idiot. People want to watch pundit reports, not news reports.

[adrshepard]

At 7/28/10 07:05 PM, Camarohusky wrote:

At 7/28/10 06:34 PM, adrshepard wrote: Get over him already, people.

'Twould be easy, but alas a large group of the illinformed and lazy believe every word he says. Especially when it is twisted or wrong.

Yeah, it's called life. If there were no Glenn Beck, there'd still be just as many idiots and as many people willing to manipulate them.

This dumping on a controversial political personality is pointless. We get it. You don't like Glenn Beck and you don't understand why other people do. Stop making threads about it.

[Camarohusky]

At 7/29/10 05:20 PM, adrshepard wrote: Yeah, it's called life. If there were no Glenn Beck, there'd still be just as many idiots and as many people willing to manipulate them.

But perhaps they would be manipulated in a less harmful sort of way.

[LordZeebmork]

At 7/28/10 11:04 PM, thenewbies wrote: I have to say, people like Glenn Beck and O'Reilly are basically part of FNC's "plan." Compared to CNN, Fox News has way higher TV ratings. People are just watching things that are more exciting about the news. I bet quarter of the traffic is just people who watch him act like an idiot. People want to watch pundit reports, not news reports.

This. Glenn Beck is a marketing genius, and one of the best actors I've seen in a long time.

[X-Gary-Gigax-X]

At 7/30/10 06:01 AM, LordZeebmork wrote:

At 7/28/10 11:04 PM, thenewbies wrote: I have to say, people like Glenn Beck and O'Reilly are basically part of FNC's "plan." Compared to CNN, Fox News has way higher TV ratings. People are just watching things that are more exciting about the news. I bet quarter of the traffic is just people who watch him act like an idiot. People want to watch pundit reports, not news reports.

This. Glenn Beck is a marketing genius, and one of the best actors I've seen in a long time.

Yop, the evil corporations and their sinister secret cabals have organized a fel, unholy collusion of doom to dictate their vassalated host and guest's every word. And if they fudge their lines off the telepromptor, huhhohoho boy, it be testicle tazzering on a good day, boyoyoy. Glenn is the star monkey boy ofcourse, Bill merely complements him.

[Elfer]

At 7/28/10 11:04 PM, thenewbies wrote: I have to say, people like Glenn Beck and O'Reilly are basically part of FNC's "plan." Compared to CNN, Fox News has way higher TV ratings. People are just watching things that are more exciting about the news. I bet quarter of the traffic is just people who watch him act like an idiot. People want to watch pundit reports, not news reports.

Yeah, you'd expect Rupert Murdoch to be a raving conservative, but actually he's pretty moderate, if conservative-leaning at all. He's just a really smart businessman.

[X-Gary-Gigax-X]

At 7/30/10 10:40 AM, Elfer wrote:

At 7/28/10 11:04 PM, thenewbies wrote: I have to say, people like Glenn Beck and O'Reilly are basically part of FNC's "plan." Compared to CNN, Fox News has way higher TV ratings. People are just watching things that are more exciting about the news. I bet quarter of the traffic is just people who watch him act like an idiot. People want to watch pundit reports, not news reports.

Yeah, you'd expect Rupert Murdoch to be a raving conservative, but actually he's pretty moderate, if conservative-leaning at all. He's just a really smart businessman.

Seth MacFarlane (family guy creator) said something like that once. "That man is a businessman first, republican second." and Seth is a big time Liberal.

Murdoch is a smart businessman. He understood that America is a center-right country, so he placed a center-right man in the 8:00 prime time slot, Bill Of Reily. He's a pure vanilla news commentator for America's baby boomers, him being one, which is why his ratings are through the roof.

[TDwizBang]

ok, i think Glenn Beck the TV personality is annoying as hell BUT the show does produce one good thing... he has a very good team on fact finders that, though not always 100%, they do find political connections that are not common knowledge...

my point is that if you take the information on the who's who you can cross ref. the info to form your own opinion... albeit his followers take everything at face value and listen to all his opinions of what he thinks is going on people like me record it to my cable box and all i do is listen to his opening statement of whats going on... if im not interested i delete but if i am i fast forward to the part where he makes a bubble chart of people, pause it, and head to the computer and fact check... i seriously only have to hear his voice for a minute...

but still the TV personality Glenn Beck is a chode-bag

[adrshepard]

At 7/30/10 12:28 AM, Camarohusky wrote:

But perhaps they would be manipulated in a less harmful sort of way.

Define harmful. Every kind of ignorance is equivalent unless it manifests itself a particular way. At worst, Beck is merely influencing the way people vote.

[thenewbies]

At 7/30/10 10:40 AM, Elfer wrote: Yeah, you'd expect Rupert Murdoch to be a raving conservative, but actually he's pretty moderate, if conservative-leaning at all. He's just a really smart businessman.

Though strangely enough, he keeps insisting that FNC is unbiased, which is pretty much false.

[studmuffin7]

At 7/26/10 10:00 PM, 1jax14 wrote: I consider myself a moderate leaning liberal (mostly because of how insane many conservatives are now... though I don't even know if I would consider them conservatives any more, they are too far off.)
I've seen clips of Glenn Beck, and I decided to watch his show to see if he was actually that insane. Maybe the clips are taken out of context, I thought. Either way, I wanted to find out for myself. And after all, maybe it would just be so ridiculous it would give me a good laugh.

Answer: None of the above

I was shocked. Here is a summary of that show.

- *crying*
- Imagine a world...
- Now imagine a world...
- Where would you like to live?
- Contracts are useless.
- Bills are useless.
- Paper is unnecessary.
- We should be able to just shake hands and agree on something.
- FDR destroyed the shape of the economy.
- Woodrow Wilson was the worst president.
- Woodrow Wilson admitted that he hated America.
- *crying*
- *gibberish*
- This is no longer America.

I have to admit, I was pretty surprised. So have you watched Glenn Beck? A whole show? Thoughts?

I have quite a few things to say here, so I am just going to list them out.

1) "... how insane Conservatives are ..." WE are insane? Just look at the damn world dude. Since Obama took office and the liberals took the House & Senate, our national debt soared from like... 3-4 trillion or something to around 13 trillion, mainly because of that damn stimulus package. Of course, that investment was supposed to go into our economy and create jobs right? Well our unemployment rate is now holding steady at 9.5% which is HIGHER than it was during even the worst of the Bush years. Now look at companies they chose to bail out with that money. AIG gave themselves raises and General Motors (which is now like 60 something percent owned by tax dollar money) used that money to create jobs IN MEXICO!!! The stock market is still diminishing. At what point can we expect to see some bang for our buck Obama?

And don't even get me started on our trade deficits. Donald Trump himself went on Fox News and specifically stated "I'd rather have no trade than the kind of trade we have now".

Then you have to consider all the tax increases and his desire to "redistribute the wealth" from those who have worked and earned it to those who sit on their ass and feel entitled to a piece of what someone else has earned.

And conservatives are crazy for being pissed off at all this crap?

2) Glenn Beck has always been quick to back up his statements with sources. People like to call him crazy because they either A) don't like what he is saying or B) are afraid of his influence. Whether you agree with his conclusions or not, you can't deny he puts together a solid argument for it. And I've never seen him cry once, though even if he did it would only prove how strongly he believes what he is saying.

[Musician]

At 7/28/10 06:34 PM, adrshepard wrote: America and all its pursuits for the sake of financial equality and global unity?

How can you honestly believe this? The US has stood for the exact opposite throughout almost all of it's history. I mean, the times the US military has intervened in a foreign country for the sole purpose of pursuing it's own business interests are too many to count. To name a few: the Phillipines, Nicaragua, Cuba, Vietnam, Iran. I can't think of a single time in all of the US's history where it has militarily intervened in a foreign country for the sake of "financial equality and global unity".

I mean, just reading that pisses me off. It's so incredibly misinformed and detached from reality. Get off the koolaid. For your own sake.

[Camarohusky]

At 8/7/10 01:17 PM, studmuffin7 wrote: Obama did the stimulus

Um. Bush did most of the stimulus. And don't tell me you did not enjoy the extra money you got from Obama's stimulus.

Obama caused all the jobs to leave

Um, the CONSERVATIVE heads of those companies shipped YOUR jobs overseas.

Obama wants to tax us to death

If you don't like taxes here's a good list of things you should do to prove you're not a Jindalesque hypocrite:
- Do not drive on the roads
- Do not walk on the sidewalk
- The next time you see a crime do not call the police
- the Next time you see a fire, do not cal the fire department
- Take your diploma and burn it
- Never send your kids to public school or a public university
- Go to China and offer yourself up to be taken over
- Don't use your power, as the power lines and most plants were built by the fed
- Hell even better do not buy ANYTHING that used ANY of these services or more

See how you like it then.

[studmuffin7]

At 8/7/10 01:36 PM, Camarohusky wrote:

At 8/7/10 01:17 PM, studmuffin7 wrote: Obama did the stimulus

Um. Bush did most of the stimulus. And don't tell me you did not enjoy the extra money you got from Obama's stimulus.

The economic stimulus did not come from Bush, it came from Obama. Republicans did the best they could to block it. And what extra money did I get from it? I didn't. More importantly, you have yet to tell me when it will reduce our unemployment rate, restore the stock market, and ultimately fix the economy as it was supposed to.

Obama caused all the jobs to leave

Um, the CONSERVATIVE heads of those companies shipped YOUR jobs overseas.

With tax dollars Obama gave them.

Obama wants to tax us to death

If you don't like taxes here's a good list of things you should do to prove you're not a Jindalesque hypocrite:
- Do not drive on the roads
- Do not walk on the sidewalk
- The next time you see a crime do not call the police
- the Next time you see a fire, do not cal the fire department
- Take your diploma and burn it
- Never send your kids to public school or a public university
- Go to China and offer yourself up to be taken over
- Don't use your power, as the power lines and most plants were built by the fed
- Hell even better do not buy ANYTHING that used ANY of these services or more

See how you like it then.

I never said I don't like taxes you retard, I said I don't think he should be raising them. People are already taxed to high hell, raising them further in a time when people are already hesitant to spend and companies don't wanna hire much anymore is NOT going to help the problem. Perhaps you should stop trying to distort my arguments like most liberals do and actually listen to what is being said. That, or improve your reading comprehension skills.