We're running out of internet.

Hmmm how can I own an IP address? I've got a great business idea. I run a black market and sell IP addresses to the highest bidder. I might get $100 a pop maybe more if I run across Twitter,Facebook, and MySPace addicts.

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Response to We're running out of internet. 2010-07-24 03:15:22 Reply

I remember hearing about this in like 2008. And they still haven't fixed it? Someone call google.

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Response to We're running out of internet. 2010-07-24 03:20:08 Reply

At 7/24/10 03:10 AM, FatJoe214 wrote: I might get $100 a pop maybe more if I run across Twitter,Facebook, and MySPace addicts.

Yeh, as if any Facebook, Twitter or MySpace addicts know what an IP address is. Probably too busy tying to get someone to adopt some cow they found on their farm...

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Response to We're running out of internet. 2010-07-24 03:41:38 Reply

At 7/24/10 03:20 AM, Yhtomit wrote:
At 7/24/10 03:10 AM, FatJoe214 wrote: I might get $100 a pop maybe more if I run across Twitter,Facebook, and MySPace addicts.
Yeh, as if any Facebook, Twitter or MySpace addicts know what an IP address is. Probably too busy tying to get someone to adopt some cow they found on their farm...

Isn't it basically the code that gives you an identity to a host?

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Response to We're running out of internet. 2010-07-24 05:51:38 Reply

At 7/23/10 09:09 PM, RageVI wrote:
At 7/23/10 09:04 PM, kanon1 wrote: I callbullshit on that
The internet. I don't think you understand how it works.

Once IPv6 is rolled out, we'll probably never run out. Ever.

We will, eventually. Just in time to make IPv7, I guess.

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Response to We're running out of internet. 2010-07-24 05:54:40 Reply

Just as the article says, it's not a big deal, they'll create a new system and upgrade. There are enough people out there who are smart enough not to let us run out of IP addresses, don't worry about it.

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Response to We're running out of internet. 2010-07-24 07:04:50 Reply

At 7/23/10 09:01 PM, SlipperyMooseCakes wrote:
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Well, IP addresses anyway. There are only 4 billion possible combination with the current set up and at this rate we will run out of IP addresses in less than a year.

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Response to We're running out of internet. 2010-07-24 23:29:25 Reply

At 7/23/10 09:45 PM, Chumbawamba wrote:
At 7/23/10 09:09 PM, RageVI wrote: Once IPv6 is rolled out, we'll probably never run out. Ever.
The whole "never again" mentality gets us every time.

It usually does. The progression that computers have gone through in the past several decades have been amazing, and it would've been hard to see how anyone would need X amount of RAM or Y amount of CPUs Z amount of years in to the future. The "never again" mentality has been torn down chiefly because of Moore's law, which has been going strong ever since its conception (At least to this point).

This doesn't seem like your average jump, though.

Think about this. IPv4 to IPv6 is moving from 32 bits per address to 128 bits.

Number of IPv4 addresses: 4,294,967,296
Number of IPv6 addresses: 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,
768,211,456

If you want to compare this to the "never again" people getting screwed by Moore's law, consider the past 30 years. In 1979, the Intel 8088 had 29,000 transistors. Moore's law says the transistor count should approximately double every two years. If you take that 29,000 figure and go 30 years in to the future, you'd expect to have around 950,272,000. The AMD 2400 series, released in 2009, has 904,000,000 transistors. That's an amazingly accurate prediction!

Now, if you tried to take that same, crazy progression and try to apply it to IPv4 (Even though that makes no sense, but this is just for discussion), then here are some numbers. IPv4 was defined in 1981. If its initial amount of addresses (4,294,967,296) were to be subjected to the same growth as Moore's law, you'd have 140,737,488,355,328 addresses in 30 years (Around now). This is 2^81 times less than the amount of addresses IPv6 will actually have, but we'll be upgrading to it soon anyway! There would be enough addresses for each person on earth, right now, to have 2^95 of their own.

So yeah. I don't think it's a question of us running out at some point, but more of if whether or not the IPv6 would be replaced by something else in the unforseeable future.

Not looking forward to manually typing in IPv6 addresses

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Response to We're running out of internet. 2010-07-25 00:24:09 Reply

At 7/23/10 09:19 PM, SlipperyMooseCakes wrote:
At 7/23/10 09:18 PM, kanon1 wrote:
At 7/23/10 09:09 PM, RageVI wrote:
At 7/23/10 09:04 PM, kanon1 wrote: I callbullshit on that
The internet. I don't think you understand how it works.

Once IPv6 is rolled out, we'll probably never run out. Ever.
I read bits and pieces of it, sue me. Besides I just gave an opinion on what I believe.
No. You just read the topic and assumed it meant internet addresses. Just stop trying to go with it and admit you just didn't take the time to understand the subject at hand. It's no big deal really, a lot of people do it.

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Response to We're running out of internet. 2010-07-25 00:38:36 Reply

Seems like we will be alright after reading the article, scared me for a second. I was thinking, FUCK no internet I don't think I could go on living...

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Response to We're running out of internet. 2010-07-25 00:50:27 Reply

This is why NAT was invented. We can stay on IPv4 and still not run out of address space. Of course, this only works for WAPs and wired networks. 3G networks taking a huge chunk of our address space, as NAT would be impractical for cell phones and air cards.

However, IPv6 has so many addresses that it doesn't even fucking matter if we use NAT or not.

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